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CrimsonShadow

Administrator and Community Engineer
Administrator
That's what I really enjoy about this game -- each character is useful depending on the situation. There are times in non-pro play that it's hard to get in with McRee and you need something else to get the job done. Ditto for being hard to stay alive as Bastion, getting flanked as Widow, etc.

There are situations where each character works or doesn't work, and that's awesome.
 

HanSolo

Noob
I've been having an issue on pc where the game crashes and gives me an error about the rendering device. Hasn't happened the past 2 days though so hopefully it's fixed because this game is fun as hell. I've been playing tracer and pharah the most I think but I try to diversify.
Who do you guys think the best support is? My initial thought was Mercy but I haven't even delved into Lucio yet and Zenyatta is pretty awesome.
 

14K

Noob
I'm fine with the nerfs but please don't tell me he's ideal for every map and every situation because he's not
But his very close to it, again i think he is among the S ranks for the game but i dont feel he needs an NRS 29th patch, some of his stuff needs to stay just as is because it is intended for his particular role, i seriously dont think he needs a nerf on his CC and if it is to be "nerfed" it would be adding maybe just 1 or 2 secs, because then Tanks will have a play day without him there, what he needs is his Fan to do a little less damage... The game is fairly Matchup heavy and right now Mccree kinda doesnt give 2 cents about MUs, if he catchs u your dead, or if your a Sniper player like myself you can rape ppl with his Left click just as well, the damage is there sooooo... 1 2 secs on Stun and little less damage on Fan, and he will be just perfect, still amazing but a tiny bit more fair...

EDIT: ideally what you want is for him to be in a place where he sharee places with on top Teams with Soldier and Reaper, which are being overshadowed by him....
 
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Zoidberg747

My blades will find your heart
I'm fine with the nerfs but please don't tell me he's ideal for every map and every situation because he's not
He has a 120% pick rate in competitive.

Yeah....

Edit: Top players said they didn't play him because they were bored of playing him. Otherwise its widely agreed that its always good to have him.
 
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Perdition

Your friendly neighborhood cynic
Winston is hella fun, except when your team of randoms are incompetent. It reminds me why I play fighting games where I am the only one responsible.


But I just feel that his shield bubble is so easy to take out quickly(Zarya) and takes like a year and a day to regen.
 
He has a 120% pick rate in competitive.

Yeah....

Edit: Top players said they didn't play him because they were bored of playing him. Otherwise its widely agreed that its always good to have him.
Tell me who said they're bored of him and play other heros because of that? Also where did you get these %'s? As far as I know c9 for example almost always runs a soldier over mccree on gibraltor because he's super good on that map. Also genji gets run quite often on hollywood(2nd point) . Also I've asked a few of the top guys and they said that he's fine for the most part it's just that he's badly designed. You got what you wanted anyways. It's confirmed he's getting nerfed
 

EMPEROR PRYCE

WAR SEASON "THE WEAK EXPOSED!"
Tell me who said they're bored of him and play other heros because of that? Also where did you get these %'s? As far as I know c9 for example almost always runs a soldier over mccree on gibraltor because he's super good on that map. Also genji gets run quite often on hollywood(2nd point) . Also I've asked a few of the top guys and they said that he's fine for the most part it's just that he's badly designed. You got what you wanted anyways. It's confirmed he's getting nerfed

IDK wat u been watching lol. Mcree is a 100% guarantee on offense maps and control points.
 

CrimsonShadow

Administrator and Community Engineer
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Just came in here to say that Lucio is the greatest character in video game history.
Definitely one of the most fun characters I've played. Skating around healing the team while still providing offense is a blast.
 

TakeAChance

TYM White Knight
Lucio is so much fun lol pushing people off of kingsfall is so satisfying.

First skin I bought was the Wayne Gretzky one.

Also, we ran a six man torb team last night on hanamura and it was so much fun lol

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I've been throwing up my five highlights daily on youtube. Each vid is about a minute and a half. Lots of Lucio and such in there. Here's the latest.

 

Zoidberg747

My blades will find your heart
Tell me who said they're bored of him and play other heros because of that? Also where did you get these %'s? As far as I know c9 for example almost always runs a soldier over mccree on gibraltor because he's super good on that map. Also genji gets run quite often on hollywood(2nd point) . Also I've asked a few of the top guys and they said that he's fine for the most part it's just that he's badly designed. You got what you wanted anyways. It's confirmed he's getting nerfed
Apparently the bored statements were made about Winston, not McCree. My bad on that.

www.planetoverwatch.com takes numbers for picks in all of the tourney's, and McCree at times has had as high as 110% pick rate.

To be clear, I don't hate McCree and I dont think he's completely broken. I just think he covers too many bases of a DPS character. If they nerf FtH damage so he doesn't wreck tanks then he'd be fine, which is the consensus among top players too.
 

CrimsonShadow

Administrator and Community Engineer
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Apparently the bored statements were made about Winston, not McCree. My bad on that.

www.planetoverwatch.com takes numbers for picks in all of the tourney's, and McCree at times has had as high as 110% pick rate.

To be clear, I don't hate McCree and I dont think he's completely broken. I just think he covers too many bases of a DPS character. If they nerf FtH damage so he doesn't wreck tanks then he'd be fine, which is the consensus among top players too.
Seems like tournaments are moving to ban doubles (at least gosugamer is), which should bring ol' McRee back down to a paltry 95-100%.
 
Apparently the bored statements were made about Winston, not McCree. My bad on that.

www.planetoverwatch.com takes numbers for picks in all of the tourney's, and McCree at times has had as high as 110% pick rate.

To be clear, I don't hate McCree and I dont think he's completely broken. I just think he covers too many bases of a DPS character. If they nerf FtH damage so he doesn't wreck tanks then he'd be fine, which is the consensus among top players too.
Yeah doubles are starting to get banned ( if you saw the one yesterday). And some of the top players said that's what made him ridiculous. Anyways in fine with dps nerf to fan the hammer but I think if that happens they should make his left click ( normal gunshots) slightly better.
 

1man3letters

Alpha Tarkatan - Moderator
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i wonder if the no doubles stay will it get patched into full game, even just in competitive mode that's coming out
 

Doombawkz

Trust me, I'm a doctor
I don't see McCree as that big of a problem.
He is dominant, but there's characters who better control the pace of the game. He is "good" on every map, but he doesn't necessarily excel on any of them in particular.
Despite his pick percentages, honestly he is a strong pick who simply is "good enough" to function everywhere to some degree of success. That's about it.

In the way that if you had 5 characters who are the best at a map, then McCree is probably your best 6th pick over other sub-optimal characters.
If a map has narrow corridors and long sight-lines, you're going to pick Junkrat and Widowmaker over McCree.
If a map has lots of open air space and long travel times between points, then you're going to pick Pharah and Symmetra.
If the enemy team comp is very heavy on set-in defenses, then you'd pick Tracer or Genji to dislodge them.
Lots of corners? Pick Roadhog and Reaper.

There's not really any time where you'd say "The map has x and y, so McCree is the best option". However, he is a character that it never hurts to have.
He rounds out team comps decently well, has enough tools to get the job done, and works well with just about anyone against just about anyone...
In FGC terms, he is a character with plenty of 6-4's and some 4-6's in his belt, but not any 7-3 or 3-7s. That makes him a safe pick.

I've been playing since like early Alpha like a few years ago. Trust me, I've seen unbalanced characters. McCree isn't one of them. Bastion used to have a 1000 point shield in front of him and his bullets did more damage back then, and all you had to do was stance dance and you'd have a full shield back. Now THAT was a pain in the ass.

Reinheart and D.Va used to get meter for just taking damage, so you'd have an ultimate up every 30 seconds and they were game changers.

Bjorn's turret used to just be a monster. I think at one point you could just hammer it to level 3 and his ultimate made it a sort of "level 4" turret. Speaking of turrets, Symmetra's turrets used to do even more obscene damage and would go through shields and barriers.


So McCree being a little strong doesn't seem nerf-worthy to me. Hit him with a bomb and a satchel charge, he dies just like everyone else.
 
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TakeAChance

TYM White Knight
I just think he shouldn't be able to burn tanks as quick as he can. Even if they made the roll not instantly reload him it would be fine. I have no problem with him bursting down the weaker health chars
 
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Doombawkz

Trust me, I'm a doctor
I mean so many tanks have counter measures, McCree should never live long enough to unload two clips unless your team is just derping off somewhere else