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Question - Cyrax NRS...why did you do this to Cyrax?

Krabman

Noob
Cyrax mains are still in shock that they were playing a completely broken ass character when it launched and thought it was fine lol. Now he's just good and its time to find the next dirtiest character. Sonya demo ->
 

Krayzie

Safeties disabled. Krayzie mode engaged!
You mind posting the 37% meterless? Curious to what I'm doing wrong. :D
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If you get a chance, just shoot by.

At the moment I don't have a mic. I'm not sure what I did to it... :(

You got any post patch cyrax match vids? Your cyrax was pretty hype to watch in mk9
My twitch is EGP_Krayzie.

I'll be participating in the ESL tournament today. And you can catch me at ToastyTuesdays this week as well. That stream is at twitch.tv/egpwonderchef
 

MadeOfMetal

Kenshi Srubtastic,Cyrax, Special Forces Mains
They didn't change any of the start ups on his string, He isn't slower. They didn't change any of his strings on block, He isn't less safe.

They only changed frame date on hit which honestly doesn't change much for us...

Comboing off a starter into net is still super easy. After you net don't dash forward and then shoot the hover bomb, f43. Shoot the hover bomb from the exact location you are left in after you net and do a tiny rc into f43. I NEVER drop the combo because of the net expiring, even online. If you are losing combo from it expiring that it's 100% on you.

Honestly most of the stuff that makes Cyrax a struggle to use was exactly the same as before just when you finally got in you could do 40% meterless so it was worth it.

I think if they need to change something to make cyrax tournament viable we would either need our damage back or something like f1 being a mid.

Either needs to be easier to get in or more rewarding when you do.
and it should have more range to deal with mileena ;)

1. AA grab isn't as good as mk9. Often gets beat by jump-ins.
2. OK... See #5 below
3. His HTBs aren't terribly hard to block.
4. Please share your 37%. Highest I found was 33% which excludes JiP.
5. You need meter to start a combo safely. Any string into net is very unsafe. Any string into ex-saw is safe on block and leads to full combo on hit. Seems fair to me.

What's really lacking is his neutral game. No net after a bomb AND damage nerf hurt him a lot. He needed one or the other, not both.

Gimme overhead chest saw =)
i have a 35% into HTB, the HTB can be blocked, and backdashed as well as armored, but its 35% into possible HTB for at least 60% if they freeze
 

Krayzie

Safeties disabled. Krayzie mode engaged!
1. AA grab isn't as good as mk9. Often gets beat by jump-ins.
2. OK... See #5 below
3. His HTBs aren't terribly hard to block.
4. Please share your 37%. Highest I found was 33% which excludes JiP.
5. You need meter to start a combo safely. Any string into net is very unsafe. Any string into ex-saw is safe on block and leads to full combo on hit. Seems fair to me.

What's really lacking is his neutral game. No net after a bomb AND damage nerf hurt him a lot. He needed one or the other, not both.

Gimme overhead chest saw =)
Try it in practice mode and turn on AI to jump.

Honestly, instead of 3, use 21. Let me know what you think.
21 was my original starter. It doesn't work anymore.
 

MadeOfMetal

Kenshi Srubtastic,Cyrax, Special Forces Mains
Is your 35% with JiP or with out?
without
i don't use jip's


F21 net, DF2(far hover bomb), F43, DF2(Far hover bomb), F43, DD2(Mid Hover bomb), 111, DF3(Far low Bomb), 111, DD3(Mid low bomb), D2, 4~DD3(Mid Low Bomb) (35%)

into B3D4 whatever you wish
 
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RM NoBrows

Supah hawt fiyah
Funny that you also don't seem to remember that it was crying that led to the nerfs that we are "crying" about in this thread.
Idk why you're stuck on this people crying for nerfs thing. Why did all the characters that got their nerfs from? From people crying. He needed nerfs and they adjusted him. Some people aren't happy about it but crying ain't gonna change that. Cyber sub, quan chi, predator, all got nerfed because of the tears of the cry babies. You guys crying about his nerfs in this thread are no better than the people who cried for nerfs. Like I said, go learn what you can do now and move on
 

MadeOfMetal

Kenshi Srubtastic,Cyrax, Special Forces Mains
Every time I do 3 to b1, they can jump out. But with 21 to b1 they must deal with the htb reset. I'm literally testing it right now, unless the notation is incorrect.
F21 net, DF2(far hover bomb), F43, DF2(Far hover bomb), F43, DD2(Mid Hover bomb), 111, DF3(Far low Bomb), 111, DD3(Mid low bomb), D2, 4~DD3(Mid Low Bomb) (35%)

into B3D4 whatever you wish
 

John the Savage

"Safeties disabled, combat mode engaged."
Idk why you're stuck on this people crying for nerfs thing. Why did all the characters that got their nerfs from? From people crying. He needed nerfs and they adjusted him. Some people aren't happy about it but crying ain't gonna change that. Cyber sub, quan chi, predator, all got nerfed because of the tears of the cry babies. You guys crying about his nerfs in this thread are no better than the people who cried for nerfs. Like I said, go learn what you can do now and move on
You really compare what happened to triborg to quan and predator? Both those two are still more than viable.
 

Rathalos

Play Monster Hunter!
Because they probably moved on to Injustice 2 fully, and want to make extra sure they don't have another MMH situation.

If that means knee capping a few characters, so be it.
 

MadeOfMetal

Kenshi Srubtastic,Cyrax, Special Forces Mains
You really compare what happened to triborg to quan and predator? Both those two are still more than viable.
yeah i know right, its almost like they are still shoveling salt.

Pred still has his dirt, and Quan can still do meterless HTB's after HKD and free with meter.
 

Rebourne07

The only Metallic player left
Because they probably moved on to Injustice 2 fully, and want to make extra sure they don't have another MMH situation.

If that means knee capping a few characters, so be it.
I think this is what's happened but it sucks
 

Eddy Wang

Skarlet scientist
Haven't you made a bunch of treads crying about characters yourself tho?
I don't cry when characters get nerfed at least not in public, my complaints are more about general gameplay rules that overwhelmingly benefits more type of playstyle than others, and bug reports, the only character i cry the most is about hat trick not getting buffed.
 

SneakyTortoise

Official Master of Salt
Cyrax is not going to win any big tourneys EVER in his current state. I doubt he will place high also. I did "learn the new combos" but combos don't win fights alone. In fact, myself and like 2 others labbed and posted all the new combos.

If you think he's fine, I'm happy for you... Go win a tournament.
I really don't mean to sound patronizing. Someone please prove me wrong and do well with Cyrax at a tournament.
He placed top 8 in an intercontinental £10,000 tournament literally today...