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Question - Cyrax NRS...why did you do this to Cyrax?

Rebourne07

The only Metallic player left
The worst nerf imo was how long the Net holds now. If they revert that he'd still be good.

I can take all the other nerfs but hitting F13 net midscreen is nearly a just frame link to get your bnb out sometimes. It's fucking stupid.

I'll keep working at him though cause I love cyrax. But his nerfs definitely hurt badly.
This exactly. He doesn't need 10 bomb combos, he doesn't even need a net after a bomb, but he NEEDS the freaking net timer back!
 
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SOULWARRIOR 71K

XBL: SOULWARRIOR 71K PSN: SOULWARRIOR71K
The worst nerf imo was how long the Net holds now. If they revert that he'd still be good.

I can take all the other nerfs but hitting F13 net midscreen is nearly a just frame link to get your bnb out sometimes. It's fucking stupid.

I'll keep working at him though cause I love cyrax. But his nerfs definitely hurt badly.
Precisely. People are severely underestimating how bad the net nerf really is.
 

scarsunseen

RIP TYM 6/11/2021
Cyrax is not going to win any big tourneys EVER in his current state. I doubt he will place high also. I did "learn the new combos" but combos don't win fights alone. In fact, myself and like 2 others labbed and posted all the new combos.

If you think he's fine, I'm happy for you... Go win a tournament.
 

evolution07

It's too soon to get cocky.
The outcry here is how bad it was when sektors up rockets were nerfed and folks went apeshit.

I've played against Cyrax opponents and they're doing just fine with the net adjustments.
 

SOULWARRIOR 71K

XBL: SOULWARRIOR 71K PSN: SOULWARRIOR71K
Cyrax is not going to win any big tourneys EVER in his current state. I doubt he will place high also. I did "learn the new combos" but combos don't win fights alone. In fact, myself and like 2 others labbed and posted all the new combos.

If you think he's fine, I'm happy for you... Go win a tournament.
Speak on it sister
 
Cyrax is not going to win any big tourneys EVER in his current state. I doubt he will place high also. I did "learn the new combos" but combos don't win fights alone. In fact, myself and like 2 others labbed and posted all the new combos.

If you think he's fine, I'm happy for you... Go win a tournament.
I'd get salty as hell paying your cyrax but it was never because of the net timer, or being after a bomb, or even damage. The complaint for most was always the "lowverheads" lol. So I agree with you.
 

Krayzie

Co-founder
Founder
Key to Cyrax:

1. Anti-Air Grab: Covers both ground and air, and ends in a hkd.
2. Has an overhead, and a low, and a few variations of a low with his blockstrings. (one of which hits mid.)
3. Still has resets in the form of htb low overhead attacks. (god forbid a jedi can block them.)
4. So far, it took me a day to adjust to his new BNB's and currently I use a 37% meterless midscreen combo.
5. You don't need to use meter for any of his combos. Use the rest of his meter to cover the entire screen with bombs, and maneuver your opponent around the screen. (not to mention as you use net, you still make meter MK9 style.) / Ex Buzz Saw (I shouldn't have to explain how to use this.)

Anyway. Lets give Cyrax an overhead buzz saw so I can feel more at home. :)
 
Key to Cyrax:

1. Anti-Air Grab: Covers both ground and air, and ends in a hkd.
2. Has an overhead, and a low, and a few variations of a low with his blockstrings. (one of which hits mid.)
3. Still has resets in the form of htb low overhead attacks. (god forbid a jedi can block them.)
4. So far, it took me a day to adjust to his new BNB's and currently I use a 37% meterless midscreen combo.
5. You don't need to use meter for any of his combos. Use the rest of his meter to cover the entire screen with bombs, and maneuver your opponent around the screen. (not to mention as you use net, you still make meter MK9 style.) / Ex Buzz Saw (I shouldn't have to explain how to use this.)

Anyway. Lets give Cyrax an overhead buzz saw so I can feel more at home. :)
You mind posting the 37% meterless? Curious to what I'm doing wrong. :D
 
Key to Cyrax:

1. Anti-Air Grab: Covers both ground and air, and ends in a hkd.
2. Has an overhead, and a low, and a few variations of a low with his blockstrings. (one of which hits mid.)
3. Still has resets in the form of htb low overhead attacks. (god forbid a jedi can block them.)
4. So far, it took me a day to adjust to his new BNB's and currently I use a 37% meterless midscreen combo.
5. You don't need to use meter for any of his combos. Use the rest of his meter to cover the entire screen with bombs, and maneuver your opponent around the screen. (not to mention as you use net, you still make meter MK9 style.) / Ex Buzz Saw (I shouldn't have to explain how to use this.)

Anyway. Lets give Cyrax an overhead buzz saw so I can feel more at home. :)
You got any post patch cyrax match vids? Your cyrax was pretty hype to watch in mk9
 

MadeOfMetal

Kenshi Srubtastic,Cyrax, Special Forces Mains
cyrax is ruined, normals and starters ruiened. he needs better normals. to many characters have range advantage like mileena. its over for him.


He needs something.

against Mileena, Liu Kang, Kung Lao, Bo. he is having a huge disadvantage.

one matchup feels so unfair, Mileena B12, can spam the shit out of it and abuse it without punishment.


He needs some help on his normals, like a bit of range.


And i have to say this for my brother.

Cyber Sub Zero:

is destoyed, his Midscreen is so hard to open others up with.

his B1, F13, 1, 11 can not link with freeze, since they can be blocked now.


it is fine thast he can't Loop HTB's anymore, but he needs better tools to open others up.

his damage has been castrated, and his starters have been ruined, he is great in the corner, but the problem is in the neutral before he gets them there.


Cyrax also has issues in the neutral and this should be addressed.


many other characters have been helped. Tekada, Mileena come to mind.

not asking for top tier treatment, just a better tool to deal with range.

and something to make the neutral not garbage.


how about his freeze startup get reverted back, and the recovery gets lengthened by 5 frames. then starters will work.
 
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John the Savage

"Safeties disabled, combat mode engaged."
They didn't just make him slower or less safe, they absolutely ruined him.
They didn't change any of the start ups on his string, He isn't slower. They didn't change any of his strings on block, He isn't less safe.

They only changed frame date on hit which honestly doesn't change much for us...

Comboing off a starter into net is still super easy. After you net don't dash forward and then shoot the hover bomb, f43. Shoot the hover bomb from the exact location you are left in after you net and do a tiny rc into f43. I NEVER drop the combo because of the net expiring, even online. If you are losing combo from it expiring that it's 100% on you.

Honestly most of the stuff that makes Cyrax a struggle to use was exactly the same as before just when you finally got in you could do 40% meterless so it was worth it.

I think if they need to change something to make cyrax tournament viable we would either need our damage back or something like f1 being a mid.

Either needs to be easier to get in or more rewarding when you do.
 

scarsunseen

RIP TYM 6/11/2021
Key to Cyrax:

1. Anti-Air Grab: Covers both ground and air, and ends in a hkd.
2. Has an overhead, and a low, and a few variations of a low with his blockstrings. (one of which hits mid.)
3. Still has resets in the form of htb low overhead attacks. (god forbid a jedi can block them.)
4. So far, it took me a day to adjust to his new BNB's and currently I use a 37% meterless midscreen combo.
5. You don't need to use meter for any of his combos. Use the rest of his meter to cover the entire screen with bombs, and maneuver your opponent around the screen. (not to mention as you use net, you still make meter MK9 style.) / Ex Buzz Saw (I shouldn't have to explain how to use this.)

Anyway. Lets give Cyrax an overhead buzz saw so I can feel more at home. :)
1. AA grab isn't as good as mk9. Often gets beat by jump-ins.
2. OK... See #5 below
3. His HTBs aren't terribly hard to block.
4. Please share your 37%. Highest I found was 33% which excludes JiP.
5. You need meter to start a combo safely. Any string into net is very unsafe. Any string into ex-saw is safe on block and leads to full combo on hit. Seems fair to me.

What's really lacking is his neutral game. No net after a bomb AND damage nerf hurt him a lot. He needed one or the other, not both.

Gimme overhead chest saw =)
 

RM NoBrows

Supah hawt fiyah
Okay everyone. NoBrows has spoken. We can all go back to pretending as if the nerfs had no impact lol.
Funny, I don't remember saying anything about him being nerfed. This thread is people crying that he got nerfed. Because NRS just nerfs willy nilly for teh lulz. And because crying is gonna change anything that already is set in stone. Learn what you can do and let's move on
 

SOULWARRIOR 71K

XBL: SOULWARRIOR 71K PSN: SOULWARRIOR71K
Funny, I don't remember saying anything about him being nerfed. This thread is people crying that he got nerfed. Because NRS just nerfs willy nilly for teh lulz. And because crying is gonna change anything that already is set in stone. Learn what you can do and let's move on
Funny that you also don't seem to remember that it was crying that led to the nerfs that we are "crying" about in this thread.