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Match Footage Solomon Grundy Versus Video Thread

Hey guys, I played on stream for a while at CoCo weeklies last night. I start off with a few games vs. Batman, then get bodied by broke-ass Killer Frost (whom i'd never played before last night ;_; ), then played some vs. Ares and after that I don't even remember. I played probably a little more Doomsday than I did Grundy just to give my friend MU experience (as well as to make Manny laugh at how broken the character is)

Here's a link to the twitch archive, I start around 4:40:00 or something like that I think. The games vs Ares start around 5:11:45. Anything after that you guys are going to have to find yourselves, I think after that is Doomsday vs. Aquaman and then more Doomsday/Frost then Grundy/Frost. I know I'm not great and I need to WCC~d2 more, but hey it's gameplay footage so there you go.

http://www.twitch.tv/consolecombat/b/398680984
 

Showtime

Reptile/Sonya
When superman does his frame trap with ice breath, if he tries to press buttons just ex trait or back dash.

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ETC AdmiralAugustus

Grabble Frazzled
http://www.twitch.tv/montanamelee/b/399148902

From a local we had last night. I'm on at 4:27:40 - 4:44:45 and then back on for GFs at 5:30:55 where I just get grapple frazzled and wrecked.

Tell me what you guys think. I was having a few input errors on my part and I should've capitalized a lot more, but let me know where I need improving.

Also, mad fraudulent button checks
 

Gruff757

The Gruff
Videos with Walking Corpse Knock Down Setups

(skip to 1:50 if you dont want to see all of my screwups)

annnnnnd

(got it to work a few times in this one but didnt feel like editing as usual)
 
Heres some videos of me at our local major (Salt Fest). I ended up getting 3rd
Grats on your 3rd place. GGS :)

I aint the best and you've probably noticed in hindsight but:
- Defense chain against that superman when he's on his 2nd life. They always tend to zone. When you grabbed him just before taking his first bar the defense chain would've finished him and given you the buff.
- after mb WC you seems to always dash and trait and occasionally miss due to doing it too early. You might have better success with ji trait after the rot as far as timing goes.
- early clash and full meter wager? ouch lol
- the neutral jump 2, b1 intro trait reset after mb hands, is it that much more damage than rot,b3,ji3,1>trait? if not its a safer option.
- WC/WCC or cleaver on wakeup are good options to make that killer frost give you a bit more respect on your wakeup
 

ll Nooby ll

To Live is to Die
Grats on your 3rd place. GGS :)

I aint the best and you've probably noticed in hindsight but:
- Defense chain against that superman when he's on his 2nd life. They always tend to zone. When you grabbed him just before taking his first bar the defense chain would've finished him and given you the buff.
- after mb WC you seems to always dash and trait and occasionally miss due to doing it too early. You might have better success with ji trait after the rot as far as timing goes.
- early clash and full meter wager? ouch lol
- the neutral jump 2, b1 intro trait reset after mb hands, is it that much more damage than rot,b3,ji3,1>trait? if not its a safer option.
- WC/WCC or cleaver on wakeup are good options to make that killer frost give you a bit more respect on your wakeup
Thank you for the tips and critique. Its very much appreciated!
With doing health at the end of the round against Supes was for that corner carry. But yeah I totally agree with you I should have done the Defense trait, especially when I hit him with the grab at the beginning of his 2nd life.
I don't if you can jump and trait and still have it be unjumpable.
Yeah those tourney nerves man, looking back I just need to go to more tourneys so I can work on them. I noticed that I played a lot better when I just played it slow and just walked forward and not dashing around like a maniac. I always need to stay on the offense too (even if that means just trying to inch in). I also need to choose the right times to turtle cause I feel that that was what made me lose that first time against the Superman.
I believe you are right on the damage being equal, I'm just not comfortable doing the GR B3.
I'm still trying to figure out what to do on Frost's wake-up, I'm think that using EX Cleaver or EX Grab is the best option because you don't get a punish off of WCC (unless you can do a D2, than it would be the best option.). Also I think always going for a jump in 2 on knockdown is the best since she can't wakeup parry, and if she slides she goes right under you and don't get hit by anything.
 
I don't if you can jump and trait and still have it be unjumpable.
It is indeed unjumpable. Some characters can't back dash out of it either so they're limited to wakeup specials. Once you've conditioned them you rot, ji then block their wakeup and punish.
The good thing about this method versus yours is the timing is much easier. You won't have to deal with doing trait too early and there's not way for them to know what will come after the jump (trait? 11 string? armored special?) as you pretty much land a split second before they get up. just don't do f1 unless you think they'll backdash cause its too slow for that setup (as is b1).
One of my favs is, as soon as you land do a ji1 (press one early) so you hit them on your way up as they wake up then when you land on the otherside you do f1 (most people will stand when they see how far away you are from them) or anti air grab if they jump after you which leads into another MB WC and another mixup :)

I believe you are right on the damage being equal, I'm just not comfortable doing the GR B3.
To be honest, neither am I. Skipping the rot and going for b3...might still be a better option tho, specially if you notice them getting out of your setup (whats a couple % gonna do anyway).

I'm still trying to figure out what to do on Frost's wake-up, I'm think that using EX Cleaver or EX Grab is the best option...
I believe ex grab would whiff against her slide so I'd stick to ex cleaver or late neutral jump so you can catch her on your wake down (assuming she slides). dash>Ex cleaver is also a great follow up to mid screen health chain knockdown :)
 

ll Nooby ll

To Live is to Die
I believe ex grab would whiff against her slide so I'd stick to ex cleaver or late neutral jump so you can catch her on your wake down (assuming she slides). dash>Ex cleaver is also a great follow up to mid screen health chain knockdown :)
It whiffs if you do it to early and the slide still has its invincibilty frames. But you're still right cleaver is a better option, it can't be jumped, +3 on block, and does more damage.

EDIT: There are some knockdowns (like chain grabs in the corner) where Grundy doesn't have enough time to get the armor on Cleaver and slide will stuff you, so that's when EX Grab would come into play.
On knockdowns with a fair amount of advantage you can do an early WCC to absorb the slide, and punish with D2.
 

ETC AdmiralAugustus

Grabble Frazzled
I don't believe you can, I'll do some testing tomorrow. Konqrr might know
So I tested it and I was able to ex trait both options and even walking corpse them. I could have had the timing wrong, but I am pretty sure it was the tightest you could do.

I could upload a video if need be and you can tell me if my timing is off, but im pretty positive I was spot on.. I knew that KF shit wasn't a free mixup, lets just hope I'm right.

EDIT:

Fuck it, I made a vid anyway. It's late and I'm a little drunk but you get the gist of it. Sorry for the shitty quality. I used my phone to record off my standard def tv.


KF bottom 5? :3
 

NRF CharlieMurphy

Kindergarten Meta
You can if I do the f112~4 or any other ender but standing 2. Some options like slide you have to time late. You can even WC slide after d1 canceled into it but you have to do it at the last possible second.

ll Nooby ll ... I knew I was done in that match :confused: ... So lucky you dropped that shit lol
no one believed me at UFGT
oh well.

You've always believed.
 

NRF CharlieMurphy

Kindergarten Meta
So I tested it and I was able to ex trait both options and even walking corpse them. I could have had the timing wrong, but I am pretty sure it was the tightest you could do.

I could upload a video if need be and you can tell me if my timing is off, but im pretty positive I was spot on.. I knew that KF shit wasn't a free mixup, lets just hope I'm right.

EDIT:

Fuck it, I made a vid anyway. It's late and I'm a little drunk but you get the gist of it. Sorry for the shitty quality. I used my phone to record off my standard def tv.


KF bottom 5? :3
WCC into combo?
or can she block
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