I started playing again on Mame with an elite player named Divine, and he truly believes Sub destroys Lao.
He thinks Lao is a low tier character. (I don't know how someone elite level can not know how good Lao is but....?)
Kinda funny that people either feel this is an 8-2 match for Lao, or an 8-2 match for Sub.
If Lao can move in real time, he has NO problems with Sub.
He beats Sub up close, and he beats him playing the wait and bait game as well.
From afar, all Sub can do is 1) duck, 2) throw Freezes, 3) Slide, or 4) jump in.
All 4 of those choices leave Lao in the driver seat as he can:
1) aim a Hat low against a ducking Sub
2) jump over Freezes and Dive Kick
3) block a Slide and punish with an uppercut
4)anti-air a jumping Sub with either a Spin, a High Kick, a jump punch/Dive Kick, or an aaHP/Hat Throw
An elite Sub vs elite Lao, Lao should win at least 7-3.