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Question How good is d4

Laos_boy

Meow Hoes
I think this move is underrated
I sometimes use it more than d1
and i like that it jails to fake out Kick

The only things that i dont like about it is the it:
- Looks dumb
- And it raises her crouching Hitbox...

What do yall think of this move?
 

Axel_Redd

Vampire Jesus....he wants YOUR blood now!!
It's pretty good. It has the range of d+1 and juicy advantage on hit. You get a mixup of f+2,1/throw. I use it on wakeup a lot against characters with vulnerable wakeup attacks.
lol, i've started using it the exact same way xD, on hit i'll dash in an b33 cutter, or b33, d1 pretty kick or cutter or throw after 11,33, or b33. Or even just a naked throw.
 

16 Bit

Mash d+1~Cat Claws
Premium Supporter
NetherRealm Studios
There's your answer, Squeaker.

...and I don't know what's up with all the troll posts here...we should be giving accurate information, guys.

What troll posts? Why are you calling it meaningless?

I don't know what's going on here, are you accusing me of trolling or posting bad Kitty info? Her d+4 is seriously a decent move. I'm not kidding about the range.
 

GamerBlake90

Blue Blurs for Life!
What troll posts? Why are you calling it meaningless?

I don't know what's going on here, are you accusing me of trolling or posting bad Kitty info? Her d+4 is seriously a decent move. I'm not kidding about the range.
With all due respect, do you know how often I see Kitana's d4 being used? Almost never. The range isn't all that great. You typically see her d1 poke being abused.

If you name me perfectly reasonable ways her d4 can be used - which I don't doubt you can do given your reputation as a Kitana player - I'll eat my own words.
 
Honestly broke as hell. Sonya players get out of here! D4 ms doesn't stuff my 7 frame punnish at neutral Or duck under fucking overheads! Also I believe her d4 is the smallest hurt box in the game compaired to Sonya's which her entire leg is a big long hurt box easly punishable full combo. The way I see it mileena still has the best d4 by a little
Oh they will tell you " but Sonya gets free 6% chip" and " the block stun is off the scales!" and " that d4 range " but hey you gotta lift one brow at all the fancy tournament resualts it's got them. No it didn't get deleted when tym went down. There just isn't any!

Edit: whoops not the mileena forums... Kitana has a way decent d4!
 

16 Bit

Mash d+1~Cat Claws
Premium Supporter
NetherRealm Studios
With all due respect, do you know how often I see Kitana's d4 being used? Almost never. The range isn't all that great. You typically see her d1 poke being abused.

If you name me perfectly reasonable ways her d4 can be used - which I don't doubt you can do given your reputation as a Kitana player - I'll eat my own words.


I didn't say abuse it. It's not godlike. It's just a pretty good move. The range is far. Test it. Don't go by appearances. It reaches more than you think. The real issue with it is speed.

I've already given a way to use it. On wakeup. It's good if they have high wakeup attacks that get stuffed by lows. Kitana herself in the mirror is a good example. You get a lot more advantage off a d+4 hitting than a d+3.


I have used this move many times on stream and have talked about it being underrated on the forums.
 

GamerBlake90

Blue Blurs for Life!
I didn't say abuse it. It's not godlike. It's just a pretty good move. The range is far. Test it. Don't go by appearances. It reaches more than you think. The real issue with it is speed.

I've already given a way to use it. On wakeup. It's good if they have high wakeup attacks that get stuffed by lows. Kitana herself in the mirror is a good example. You get a lot more advantage off a d+4 hitting than a d+3.


I have used this move many times on stream and have talked about it being underrated on the forums.
I guess I missed the streams where it was used. :oops:

All right, I will give it a shot and get back to you on what I think. Thanks for sharing.
 

aj1701

Noob
With all due respect, do you know how often I see Kitana's d4 being used? Almost never. The range isn't all that great. You typically see her d1 poke being abused.

If you name me perfectly reasonable ways her d4 can be used - which I don't doubt you can do given your reputation as a Kitana player - I'll eat my own words.
I've actually been using it in my game. A d4 following a d1 gives perfect spacing for f21, or. Even d4 by itself.

I didn't know about throwing after, but I've gotten a decent number of people in to her bnb.
 

Mr_Swizzer

OUTCAST
Its good to end a game with d4 if your both close.

I think kabals d4 cancel is good in frames as well i cant remember.
 

Espio

Kokomo
Lead Moderator
There's your answer, Squeaker.

...and I don't know what's up with all the troll posts here...we should be giving accurate information, guys.
I'm not trolling...I use her down 4 when I play Kitana and do well with her. Her down 4 is NOT bad nor is it worthless/meaningless.


It's another good poke she has, though underutilized and unlike down 1 or down 3, you're not at disadvantage so you won't get caught in pressure or potentially comboed by certain normals on block.