NRS Agrees - HE NEEDS IT! Cyrax Reset still in MK Vita.

[STB Sgt Reed]

Perhaps if the vita makes a large enough profit WB will use some of their money mountain to allow NRS to port the new patch to consoles?

I also believe that Tremor is a test. If people freak the fuck out (like we are, myself especially) he will be in MK9 via DLC. MK10 for sure.

He better, at the very least, be in MK10!!!

I've wanted him for a long time. Just thing he could have a ripple move that travels across the ground (kinda like freddy's low glove toss)... tons of cool possibilities with earth powers!

 

[AREZ God of War]

And you, good sir are a part of the public, so guess what your opinion is worth

Back on topic, as stated earlier, Cyrax's damage output won't be greatly changed without the reset so I'm not sure what the argument is about. Can the character still fuck you 8-ways from Sunday? Of course he can. Even without the reset, he's still nutz.

LOL I'm not part of the public....I don't even claim to be human

I think generally speaking ppl who get in to those positions dont stay very long...certainly not 20 years

Sure they do Brutha....they just get their position, sit back and hire other people, boss them around, get them to do all their work for them, blame their shortcomings on them and take credit for all the good stuff. I seen it a million times, and worked for many people who had been running a business for years, decades, w/e and I could tell they barely knew their ass from a hole in the ground. That's what corporations are BUILT on.....that's what COUNTRIES are built on. Isn't Castro STILL in power?

 

[Alice]

It's not clear for me that if the console versions will get the same updates, but there is another bomber in the cast namely Cyber Sub Zero. I'd love to know if his late u4 will spit the bomb out the same, and if you can do the "always having a bomb out" type rushdown. This: 332,bomb,dash,b22,bomb,332,u4xxxbomb,34, b22 slide string. Will the 3 bombs appear?

 

[PND_Ketchup]

This is not a bug dude, haven't you played any other mks before and see how cyrax can pop you up infinetly from the ground? the bomb loop is part of the engine, and coming out of stagger after a net is also part of the engine, you can block any hits after the net stagger or any other staggers in the game, but you cant block the bombs after it therefore you are going airborne again, this is part of the engine, you people just don't get it, wait until you come to EVO, your sektor will get he needz it to death and will be flying all over the screen


this is kind of selfish, don't compare what other characters should or not do, no hard feelings konqrr the mk community loves you





Not having a second net after combos will ruin cyrax even more, wtf dude be reasonable, a lot of people use the second net to avoid wake up options and reset the situation for 50/50s


HE NEEDZ IT WINZ ONZE AGAIN =)

I understand how engines work. It's a bug.

 

[RTM2004]

His standard net reset still seems to work.

Is Jade still the 'same' as she is now?

 

[Maxter]

I understand how engines work. It's a bug.

I understand how engines work too, is not a bug, like jax is not a bug either, ex gp was made to otg after elbow stagger, talk to the developers and find out, now maybe they didn't mean to have this in the game but i guaranteed is not a bug, like the command grab into bombs wasnts, the stagger was blockable but long enough for the bomb to activate, combo was over since you could block, you just couldn't move out of the bomb.
Maxter educates his fellow combatants, for free, any questions about any topics, just pm me

 

[Justice]

LOL I'm not part of the public....I don't even claim to be human

Touche

 

[PND_Ketchup]

I understand how engines work too, is not a bug

I'm not going to repeat myself man. Given the circumstances the player has to meet, and the combo they have to do to achieve that damage is well and truly an exploit in every sense of the word. A damage re-scaling bug is the correct term.

He's the only character that can achieve that damage, and smoke/jax's re-scaling exploits have been removed. I'm just putting two and two together, I don't want to argue :]

 

[TakeAChance]

- Kabal's iaGBs and (if possible) 2 xx NDC

- Kenshi's damage and frame data on SC and EX SC

- Freddy's staple combo (f+4,2,1 xx EX spike, JP,f+2,1 xx close spike, f+4,2,1 xx far spike, far spike) and damage as well as chip damage on glove toss, fingers, and spikes.

Edit: LOL Maxter always showing up in Cyrax nerf discussions.

Kenshi - SC does 9% Ex does 12%. Seems to be the exact same frames. Can do all the follow ups as you can on console. I don't have the technology to give you exact frame specs. But, he plays the exact same. No noticeable changes.

Freddy - Blocked glove toss - 2% chip

Blocked Low Claw - 2% chip.

All versions of ground spike = 2% chip.

 

[AREZ God of War]

This is not a bug dude, haven't you played any other mks before and see how cyrax can pop you up infinetly from the ground? the bomb loop is part of the engine, and coming out of stagger after a net is also part of the engine, you can block any hits after the net stagger or any other staggers in the game, but you cant block the bombs after it therefore you are going airborne again, this is part of the engine, you people just don't get it, wait until you come to EVO, your sektor will get he needz it to death and will be flying all over the screen


this is kind of selfish, don't compare what other characters should or not do, no hard feelings konqrr the mk community loves you





Not having a second net after combos will ruin cyrax even more, wtf dude be reasonable, a lot of people use the second net to avoid wake up options and reset the situation for 50/50s


HE NEEDZ IT WINZ ONZE AGAIN =)

LOL If only more people realized his damage potential and bomb traps in older MK games like UMK3, MKGold.....


They'd BE HAPPY he can only do 70% in MK9 LMAO

 

[M2Dave]

Kenshi - SC does 9% Ex does 12%. Seems to be the exact same frames. Can do all the follow ups as you can on console. I don't have the technology to give you exact frame specs. But, he plays the exact same. No noticeable changes.

Freddy - Blocked glove toss - 2% chip

Blocked Low Claw - 2% chip.

All versions of ground spike = 2% chip.

Thanks.

Is it just me or should this version of the game be hotfixed for PS3/X-Box 360? Think about it. Smoke's scrubby reset is gone! And maybe Kabal's 2 xx NDC is fixed too.

 

[Bidu]

You know what, I don't even give a fuck.

Gimme Tremor and you can have your resets.

Erm... Who?

 

[G4S Claude VonStroke]

 

[TakeAChance]

It is still possible to NDC after 2 so I assume the infinite is still there. I don't play kabal so I don't have the execution to test it to much in depth.

IAGB has not been touched.

 

[Maxter]

I'm not going to repeat myself man. Given the circumstances the player has to meet, and the combo they have to do to achieve that damage is well and truly an exploit in every sense of the word. A damage re-scaling bug is the correct term.

He's the only character that can achieve that damage, and smoke/jax's re-scaling exploits have been removed. I'm just putting two and two together, I don't want to argue :]

I'm not arguing at all, this damage exploit is situational, depends on your opponents meter management and who is controlling the match, some characters can outzone others to death and always have meter and ehalth lead, some can chip to death whiel building meter easily, some can hit confirm a combo from full screen, some like sektor can start a combo by just punishing a projectile on reaction from full screen and easily 40% people, some others dont let you wake up and chip you to death while building meter to avoid getting comboed, and so forth, i don't want to argue either, i understand your point, pls understand mine, alot of character have way more bullshit than cyrax overall and not always a net will mean 75% unless breakers are removed cyrax dmg is not an issue. if the game didnt have guaranteed breakers i would say myself cyrax was broken it would be really one net and you are death.
HE NEEDZ IT

 

[Enenra]

Erm... Who?

http://testyourmight.com/threads/screenshots-of-tremor-in-the-ps-vita.16708/

 

[Alice]

I'm not going to repeat myself man. Given the circumstances the player has to meet, and the combo they have to do to achieve that damage is well and truly an exploit in every sense of the word. A damage re-scaling bug is the correct term.

He's the only character that can achieve that damage, and smoke/jax's re-scaling exploits have been removed. I'm just putting two and two together, I don't want to argue :]

Yeah, but it's still not a bug or glitch, just simple bullshit. Damage re-scaling bullshit to be correct.
Still I don't believe that he needs it, but it's there, it could have been removed, with adding a simple exception, so no it's no error, or bug. It's just Cyrax.

 

[Maxter]

LOL If only more people realized his damage potential and bomb traps in older MK games like UMK3, MKGold.....


They'd BE HAPPY he can only do 70% in MK9 LMAO

Lol arez they just don't know, they think this game is street fighter, i played cyrax since mk3 and he is one of the worth chars even with those 100% dmg combos, "no breakers available" the setups are hard to execute against high level players.
most people arguing about these issues are really new to this game and never struggle with the original mks who made this one and its community a success

 

[AREZ God of War]

Lol arez they just don't know, they think this game is street fighter, i played cyrax since mk3 and he is one of the worth chars even with those 100% dmg combos, "no breakers available" the setups are hard to execute against high level players.
most people arguing about these issues are really new to this game and never struggle with the original mks who made this one and its community a success

Personally, I don't see why Cyrax is the big problem when i see you using him all the time and you usually turn to Sektor when Cyrax fails (Sektor doesn't fail in the same situation). I'm sure if Cyrax was THAT big of a problem you wouldn't see the need to switch it up cuz Cyrax would be able to just keep winning. What's next? Sektor needs his 49% (52%?) combo nerfed too?

I don't see much of a difference between a character w/ 75% or 50% combos....either way, 2 mistakes and your dead. It's not like you can take 125% health....they only HAVE 100%

He was even worse in MKGold, Max. LOL Fuck that game haha

 

[PND_Ketchup]

Lol arez they just don't know, they think this game is street fighter, i played cyrax since mk3 and he is one of the worth chars even with those 100% dmg combos, "no breakers available" the setups are hard to execute against high level players.
most people arguing about these issues are really new to this game and never struggle with the original mks who made this one and its community a success

you do have to remember how situational his massive combos were in mk3 though, his b&b was that one dial a combo he had. with the amount of run jabbing mk3 had in it, it was diffucult to hit people with bombs in the first place. I used sektor in mk3, although he had great damage if you caught someone in the air with a homing missile, it almost NEVER happened. he had a 98% corner combo. But you'd never land it in a real game.

People just don't like losing that much life from a stand alone b&b combo that's all, I'm not saying I can't beat a Cyrax that does that, if a cyrax player is fishing for that one combo with bombs and nets, they're giving me a free win.

 

[AREZ God of War]

you do have to remember how situational his massive combos were in mk3 though, his b&b was that one dial a combo he had. with the amount of run jabbing mk3 had in it, it was diffucult to hit people with bombs in the first place. I used sektor in mk3, although he had great damage if you caught someone in the air with a homing missile, it almost NEVER happened. he had a 98% corner combo. But you'd never land it in a real game.

People just don't like losing that much life from a stand alone b&b combo that's all, I'm not saying I can't beat a Cyrax that does that, if a cyrax player is fishing for that one combo with bombs and nets, they're giving me a free win.

I disagree w/ this. They say NEVER use Cyrax's bombs in UMK3 against a Teleporter, but Summoning can do his 100% bomb set-up variations to almost anyone...and most don't even consider him a "top player"

And don't forget about leaving off the last hit on his 7-hitter to drop a quick Near-Bomb and lock them down w/ run-jabs/combo-chip damage ....the bomb resets after a 37%(?) and you can do another aaHPx3 --->Air throw

 

[Maxter]

Alright lets all stop the arguments here and lets just celebrate this day when NRS said themselves "HE NEEDZ IT" everyone please have a beer tonight for the cyrax community, we need to organize a party at EVO and celebrate this glorious day, thanks to all who supported the mustard cyborg to death.
@oneboxyrobot @KTsmith, NariTuba, @cararecrika, Tony T, THTB, AREZ God of War and all of those i'm forgetting, thanks for supporting and struggling with me on this journey cheeeeerrrrssssss!!!!!!!!

HE NEEDZ IT!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[PND_Ketchup]

I disagree w/ this. They say NEVER use Cyrax's bombs in UMK3 against a Teleporter, but Summoning can do his 100% bomb set-up variations to almost anyone...and most don't even consider him a "top player"

I didn't monitor the mk3 scene a whole lot, the community actually put me off that game so i only played it for fun. I personally rarely saw all the bomb strats work too well against anyone. My point is that they weren't his b&b. And you weren't guaranteed that 100% the second you touched them.

 

[AREZ God of War]

I didn't monitor the mk3 scene a whole lot, the community actually put me off that game so i only played it for fun. I personally rarely saw all the bomb strats work too well against anyone. My point is that they weren't his b&b. And you weren't guaranteed that 100% the second you touched them.

LOL If you played Summoning, you'd see that they ARE INDEED his BnB hahaha

I play him differently, but NO ONE IMO plays him quite like Summoning...his Cyrax is God-like

 

[PND_Ketchup]

LOL If you played Summoning, you'd see that they ARE INDEED his BnB hahaha

so if there are no bombs on the screen at all and he hits me with a jip im going to get hit by two bombs?