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Kombat Tomb Podcast - Ep. 23 with Death

PND_Mustard

"More stealthful than the night"
Premium Supporter
d+4 and d+3 don't link into net. f+2 is too slow.

1,1 and 2,1 are fast pokes, do link net, and can be hit-confirmed into 80% juggles, but neither 1 nor 2 hits a block-crouching Sektor. Command throw leads to safe jumps but also whiffs. How are these not big advantages?
you shouldnt be poking at sektor from that range anyway. he can blow you up with his standing 1 into whatever, b3 to whiff punish etc. however cyrax can do all of these right back, i tend to hover around sweep distance if i can, if you want him to start blocking high hit him with a standing 3-buzzsaw, safe on block so no reason not to cancel into it, then you might get a few more openings to poke with 21, also 12 is MUCH better than 11 IMO.

also the command grab problem doesnt make it useless, its not a move that should be rinsed and repeated anyway as its easy as pie to tech on reaction, alot of players seem to have forgotten cyrax has a forward throw too lol.
 

Maxter

Noob
daaaamnn nice podcast i jsut finshed listening to it, lol death ive never downplayed cage i believe he doesnt have a lot of bad matches, maybe 5 or 6 and most of them are not that bad really

right now i just think these guys beat cage or have advantage over him
Kabal
kenshi
subzero
sektor
kitana have slightly advantage even tho curbo blew up cd, cd will have his salty run back, he said he wasnt focused enough on that top 8 and he blew him up in casuals, maybe curbo was sandbagging or it wasnt cd senior time on that top 8, maybe we could make them fight each other at mlg and see what happens
freddy, cage cant keep freddy lockeddown in the corner because of the armored drop thingy and ex fire teleports is a free ticket out also
noob saibot might be on saibot's favor but the player skills and knowledge on this fight will dictate who wins this match
most of these matches are winnable but the kabal and kenshi ones are a pain in the ass, and also sub zero one could be depressing if you are not patient enough with cage, sektor 6 frame jabs and tools to keep him away makes his life pretty hard too, ikizzle experience on that matchup opened my eyes when he blew me up like 7-1, andrew loses to my cage because he is not very experienced with the match up yet, maybe ikizzle knows too much about this match, what do you say IKizzLE or maybe i could improve more against sektors that knows the matchup, i need to play that matchup so bad with ikizzle and see what weaknesses i can find on sektor with cage

maybe he is not top 5 or might be, but he is definitely top 8 undoubtedly, i'm not part of the cage community really, i know most of these guys downplay the character when cage is really a beast, also most of the cyrax hate comes from the cage community lol when i consider cage 10 time more dirtier than the yellow cyborg with free 50sh% meterless dmg and 50/50 situation everytime he gets you into block strings, and he can chip you to death also if you don't guess right, goddamn it peopel don't see that after a good 46% dmg combo into nut punch and a free jumping punch with 4 hits into ex forceballs plus 4 more block hits get over 60% dmg and still you are close to him and will panic to move or do somethign, jesus christ i love cage but he is ridiculous i could say and he is goddamn good.
 

LEGEND

YES!
Hmm...





And yet here you sound awfully certain for a guy who is just speculating. All I'm saying is, before making such bold claims, especially ones that can be seen as discrediting to an entire competitive team, do a little homework. Also, don't be so quick to just write off other groups/players.

Unless you're going for the whole WWE thing. If that's the case just let me know so I can uh... I don't know, threaten to hit you with a folding chair next time I'm on camera or something.
i am confident but thats why we play, your not going to give me the win just because i say so. Everything is speculation and my speculation is that we would win

from my pov, i haven't seen a single WNBA member play at a level beyond what i see locally. And nothing can prepare you for Xblades poke game or Pboards Lao ect.
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i am not writing you guys off cause i'm sure that there are players i don't know of just like you don't know about us

Lastly, Death is a total tool. Any group he is involved in automatically looks bad
 

Krayzie

Safeties disabled. Krayzie mode engaged!
Why does 16-Bit keep saying Tyrant dominates the entire West Coast?

I must have really choked the hardest at SCR. I will body him at the next Major for sure.

Also, Deaths logic in "They had the chance to prove themselves on the EC" is dumb. Tyrant and I went to NEC and MLG. One each tournament, once. I placed 9th only losing to Crazy Dominican. People seem to forget how much pressure you have on your back when you have to represent a whole coast on your back.

Oh, and just to note the irrelevant. I've been away from the WC for a major twice for MK9. Once placing 5th, second placing 9th. SoCal definitely sucks, cause 2 SoCal players went to the EC and didn't win it among 50+ locals, a lot of which happened to be very good.

Try going to a major where you're the only player representing an entire region.

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Still listening to the rest.
 

PND_Ketchup

"More deadly than the dawn"
daaaamnn nice podcast i jsut finshed listening to it, lol death ive never downplayed cage i believe he doesnt have a lot of bad matches, maybe 5 or 6 and most of them are not that bad really

right now i just think these guys beat cage or have advantage over him
Kabal
kenshi
subzero
sektor
kitana have slightly advantage even tho curbo blew up cd, cd will have his salty run back, he said he wasnt focused enough on that top 8 and he blew him up in casuals, maybe curbo was sandbagging or it wasnt cd senior time on that top 8, maybe we could make them fight each other at mlg and see what happens
freddy, cage cant keep freddy lockeddown in the corner because of the armored drop thingy and ex fire teleports is a free ticket out also
noob saibot might be on saibot's favor but the player skills and knowledge on this fight will dictate who wins this match
most of these matches are winnable but the kabal and kenshi ones are a pain in the ass, and also sub zero one could be depressing if you are not patient enough with cage, sektor 6 frame jabs and tools to keep him away makes his life pretty hard too, ikizzle experience on that matchup opened my eyes when he blew me up like 7-1, andrew loses to my cage because he is not very experienced with the match up yet, maybe ikizzle knows too much about this match, what do you say IKizzLE or maybe i could improve more against sektors that knows the matchup, i need to play that matchup so bad with ikizzle and see what weaknesses i can find on sektor with cage

maybe he is not top 5 or might be, but he is definitely top 8 undoubtedly, i'm not part of the cage community really, i know most of these guys downplay the character when cage is really a beast, also most of the cyrax hate comes from the cage community lol when i consider cage 10 time more dirtier than the yellow cyborg with free 50sh% meterless dmg and 50/50 situation everytime he gets you into block strings, and he can chip you to death also if you don't guess right, goddamn it peopel don't see that after a good 46% dmg combo into nut punch and a free jumping punch with 4 hits into ex forceballs plus 4 more block hits get over 60% dmg and still you are close to him and will panic to move or do somethign, jesus christ i love cage but he is ridiculous i could say and he is goddamn good.
I agree there, the cage/noob match isn't as free as some people think IMO. You have to be good at getting people off you with noob to defeat a smart cage, you can't just throw clones all day. Or become pattern.

I'm not sure if it's just me, but I think I've been wiff punished by foxy for using Up kicks at bad timing too, so there has to be a lot of calculated clones in that matchup.

That said, at least he doesn't use his meter for combo damage, so you can break if you make a mistake, especially with the meter you gain from throwing clones.
 

XBlades

To Achieve, You must Believe
I didnt even get blown up on this cast... and im in the WC... that sux...
See ya in Anaheim!
 

M2Dave

Zoning Master
you shouldnt be poking at sektor from that range anyway. he can blow you up with his standing 1 into whatever, b3 to whiff punish etc. however cyrax can do all of these right back, i tend to hover around sweep distance if i can, if you want him to start blocking high hit him with a standing 3-buzzsaw, safe on block so no reason not to cancel into it, then you might get a few more openings to poke with 21, also 12 is MUCH better than 11 IMO.

also the command grab problem doesnt make it useless, its not a move that should be rinsed and repeated anyway as its easy as pie to tech on reaction, alot of players seem to have forgotten cyrax has a forward throw too lol.
Fight Cyrax using Freddy's large-ass hitbox and then use Sektor for a little bit.

That's all I'll say. LOL. You're kidding yourself if you don't think the low hitbox is a huge factor.
 

G4S Claude VonStroke

@MK_ClaudeVS on twitter
are you like East Coast's version of Tomlulsbrady or something? i'm done reading your posts
what does that even mean? Swift tom hanks has babied every Kung lao he has seen in tournament and in casuals. I'm not trolling at all. BTW i will not name the names out of respect to those players. But don't act like Kung lao is a big deal.
 

KH_Captain

Nightwolf wannabe
i'm sorry but from what I saw being there Cat beat Mr. Mileena worse than Reo did so hate on some guys who haven't traveled around to tourneys for not travelling, but not for not being insanely good. These guys punish stuff nobody punishes 16 bit talks about blowin up d1 cutter they do it consistently. Just sayin.
 

PND_Mustard

"More stealthful than the night"
Premium Supporter
Fight Cyrax using Freddy's large-ass hitbox and then use Sektor for a little bit.

That's all I'll say. LOL. You're kidding yourself if you don't think the low hitbox is a huge factor.
not what i said at all. cyrax's command throw isn't a staple to his gameplay IMO, i usually save it for obviously high pressure situations, half way through my winning round etc when theyre less likely to react to it.

besides, cyrax's d4 still works a charm, if you're worried about sektor ducking your attacks use the saw as much as possible, condition him to be standing more, and if he just doesnt wanna stand up let him eat buzzsaws.
 
i'm sorry but from what I saw being there Cat beat Mr. Mileena worse than Reo did so hate on some guys who haven't traveled around to tourneys for not travelling, but not for not being insanely good. These guys punish stuff nobody punishes 16 bit talks about blowin up d1 cutter they do it consistently. Just sayin.
Not taking anything away from Cat and I'm not trying to make excuses, but I was not on point that day. After the tournament, the guys can attest I did far better post tourny casuals.
I don't know how to deal with nerves, and I was far more nervous here, because I was pressured to do so well, you know? Where as in Devastation I was a no name.
Cat is an amazing Kabal, but REO has the best one hands down. Watch the Devastation Grand Finals last match 2nd round where he literally pressures me to death.
 

Krayzie

Safeties disabled. Krayzie mode engaged!
I did and I won.

Look, I like you guys, but Death's right. You haven't delivered against the other regions. Anaheim is your chance though.
That's not true. I was the first from SoCal to place top 8 at Power Up.

Months later, I went to NEC, and lost to Crazy Dominican in a match to get into the top 8. You also beat me in grand finals, and happened to be the only person to do it at SCR. I lost to you twice. And just to give you a fun fact, I lost to Kitana 4 times in 2 weeks.

This just goes to show you, sometimes shit just happens. The fact that SoCal has had 2 players attend other regions, 3 times, at 3 different locations not at the same venue goes to show you how hard it is.

And yes, Anaheim is our chance. A large majority of our players will be in attendance.
 

KH_Captain

Nightwolf wannabe
Not taking anything away from Cat and I'm not trying to make excuses, but I was not on point that day. After the tournament, the guys can attest I did far better post tourny casuals.
I don't know how to deal with nerves, and I was far more nervous here, because I was pressured to do so well, you know? Where as in Devastation I was a no name.
Cat is an amazing Kabal, but REO has the best one hands down. Watch the Devastation Grand Finals last match 2nd round where he literally pressures me to death.
yes obviously reo is the ultimate kabal but I'm just sayin not to downplay cat and showtime based on them not travelling. B/C they are very good
 

KH_Captain

Nightwolf wannabe
yeah STH's performance at FV definitely impressed me I didn't think he was that good but man he looked incredibly nasty. hell he's 20 times better than me I just can't win lately. goin offline is harder than it looks lol.
 

REO

Undead
If Kabal beats Sektor 6-4 then he beats every other character in the game 7-3 and 8-2.

Why is this character not deemed ban-worthy?