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You don't need to find it because it is already there, Sprint actually already explained what the gaps mean in the first post of the Cyrax frame data thread. Elbow dash will always be -15.
You don't need to find it because it is already there, Sprint actually already explained what the gaps mean in the first post of the Cyrax frame data thread. Elbow dash will always be -15.
That makes much more sense to me, according to my tests.
Reptile is -4 after a blocked acid hand, but the pushback is heavy as hell obviously, so there's no guaranteed pressure on either side. Best way to deal with this as Cyrax? Tbh, you have to watch for d4, which is basically free vs most characters due to the pushback if they try to dash back in. And if you have something faster than 16 frames that advances at the same time, d4 is not guaranteed, but he can elbow to check it if it's not faster than 10 frames. There aren't many things 9 frames and advancing in this game, so if you have this (Which Cyrax does not have, but Sub does) you are at a nice advantage. Even with something advancing and faster than 16 frames is great.
Free JIP
Invis is 28 frames?!?! Or is that adding the 13 frames on 3. Either way this sucks, I want frame traps damnit!! Haha
I dont think you can follow up with anything, but the fact that its +5 really shuts down a lot of your opponents options. They only can do poke, jump, block or armor. I think if you do a double ex dash, they might cant even get out of it
I mean I have follow ups, but I am trying to find better ones.
That will destroy anything but a jump out. d3 and d1 will beat every poke follow up
His only real inescapable frame trap is the reset into ex dash. You can't jump out, you can't do anything but block.
Yeah i know it just sucks lol. I use the reset as my bnb now. Sub zero can ice clone the ex dash though btw.
Yeah ex dash can be a bit of a gift and a curse. They really should make the block stun on it long enough so it can't be interrupted but oh well.
I was talking about after the reset, the ex elbow can be ice cloned, but you're right, I think they left it that way just because of how much chip it can do, but I agree I think that would be helpful.
Your saying he can ice clone before the ex dash or on the way back??
Before, ice clone is only 2 frames. I was playing a sub player and did the reset, and right when I thought the ex dash was going to hit he cloned me, I think it's because you are the elbow dash from close to full range, which takes 12 frames. since you are +8, sub has 4 frames to get out clone. I'm sure in the corner that you've got him, but that has happened to me. It could have just been another online fluke though.
Thats definitely a fluke. The timing on this has to be precise for you not to be able to jump out as well so it could of just been the execution which still happens to me from time to time.
I thought so, just thought I would make everyone aware, because I was salty when that happened to me haha, my mind was blown.
