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Mortal Kombat (2021) Movie Discussion Thread

What do you mean linear? Arent the game stories linear too?
Linear in the sense that a part of games is interactivity and navigating environments. You can pace a game as fast or as slow as you want usually. If a game says go left, you can usually choose to go right for a bit before it forces you to go with it. With movies, there aren't really sidequests or ways that the viewer can deviate from the experience they show you. Whereas games gives the player agency which movies don't do. Plus games have the option of telling stories 4 - 50+ hours long, whereas a movie can't do that.
 

Art Lean

Noob
Loved it.

It was SO different to MK95, in some good ways and some not-so-good (but not 'bad').

I loved how MK95 embraced the on-location filming in gorgeous Thailand scenery (the beach and the courtyard in particular are forever stunning), I also loved George S Clinton's tribal score that recalled a lot from Japanese Taiko drum group Kodo; really gave the film a beautifully mystical feel at times that the new film didn't even attempt to capture, and the original truly had that supernatural Enter the Dragon martial arts tournament atmosphere that the first game tried to convey (would have preferred MK95 to have been more cherry blossomed Hong Kong cinema ala Chinese Ghost Story feel, rather than the cheaper Thailand-filmed Bloodsport 2 production we got, but credit where credit's due and the beaches and dragon boats are utterly beautiful to this day). I also loved MK95's licensed soundtrack; it changed my life, the new film just has a nice modern score that I doubt I'll listen to in isolation. The mixture of 95's timeless Asian score mixed with contemporary industrial, metal and electronica made for a stunning audio journey that corrupted my 13 year old mind and made for a crazy MTV music video set to ninjutsu. Plus fabulous performances from Tagawa and in his own way, Lambert.

The new film feels very MK Legacy but with a good budget. But that's not a complaint as I loved that series and could see its potential irrespective of its budgetary limitations. Other than the return of Tagawa, Legacy felt very different from both MK95 & Conquest's universe and yet I also loved all those visions of Mortal Kombat in contrast to one another.

The initial feedback comments of Legacy-meets-Legends are very accurate but that's a good thing, I enjoyed it thoroughly.

I laughed at lot in this movie, Kano was excellent, was surprised at how much Kabal channeled MK11's rendition of the character. Loved Sonya, Jax, Mileena, Liu Kang, Sub Zero, Scorpion and Shang Tsung. Different interpretations yet felt familiar all the same. Not once did I feel that hideous feeling that they'd thrown in a character with a familiar name yet no sense of accurate characterisation just to name-drop them for the fans (like the godawful King of Fighters movie). Ok, maybe Reiko? But seriously... it's Reiko. If you're going to stick a jobber in your franchise-starting movie, MK4 is the best place to pluck characterless losers from to sell over the heroes. MK4's roster was full of knockoff jobbers, needless to say there's a reason most of them never came back.

The fatalities were excellent, I think it was a nice decision to off some 3D era characters knowing that means there's lots of potential for a whole roster of beloved Outworld fighters in a sequel. Reptile was far more lithe than initially expected, he looked more heavy and brutish in the trailers, but was surprisingly on form with his slender Deadly Alliance characterisation. I can't deny the movie was kind of simplistic in its logic at times, but it's Mortal Kombat. The closest any live-action MK media has come to channeling what my mind interpreted from the original trilogy of games' atmosphere was probably the MK2 live action TV advert, with all the costumes designed by the team behind Hellraiser. But I don't think there's a mainstream market for that kind of supernatural martial arts horror to be funded with a big budget via a video game licence, so I'm very happy with this regardless.

A tiny part of me almost wishes it had been Lambert that turned up at the end when Raiden reappears for the scene where they need to build a new team of Earthrealm fighters, it's one of those moments that just felt like I craved that ridiculous nostalgic touch, not that I would expect them to put it in, not that it would make sense either, just the child in me wanted that "never had a clue" bromance moment from the inimitable king of raspy cool to be smiling at his champions. Not that Lambert as Raiden even made much sense, but I loved him all the same.

Cole was fine, since it wasn't actually the tournament it never felt offensive that effectively the 2021 version of Art Lean was the lead character. He didn't come across as an offensively corporately inserted new character, he felt in line with Siro, Taja, Art Lean, any number of original characters the Threshold productions brought in. The fact that he was a new member of the Scorpion lineage really wasn't any different than Chris Casamassa's new version of Takeda in Conquest who took over the Scorpion title way back in 1998 so I didn't mind at all.

It sets up for sequels beautifully and left me smiling ear to ear.

Is it better than MK95? Hmm, in many ways. In every way? Not necessarily. I'm fully aware of MK95's faults, but it did do a lot of things right and give that movie a firm 7.5 out of 10 (as a video game movie and interpretation of Mortal Kombat).

This gets an 8 out of 10, objectively better in many ways, but lacks some things I loved about the original. Namely those beautiful Oriental moments and mystical atmosphere, this almost felt more X-Files than Big Trouble in Little China, Enter the Dragon or A Chinese Ghost Story. But maybe that's just the MK Legacy influence which also had that feeling at times?

But it sets up for a magical sequel I can't wait to see. I waited 24 years for this, and enjoyed every minute. Here's hoping we not only get a sequel, but that it's not an Annihilation either.

In many ways, this feels like another Judge Dredd situation. In both instances, the 1995 version of each actually had far better cinematography and on-location shooting that made for a far more beautiful and accurate representation of their respective worlds (say what you like about Stallone's Dredd but the 95 movie was WAY better at capturing Mega City One as a gloriously ridiculous future cyberpunk world than 2012 did, which was just Johannesburg.... but bigger). The contemporary reboots (Dredd 2012, MK2021) have a far more viscerally impactful and accurate representation of the characters, their attitudes and the violence their universes represented, but miss out on the beautiful cinematic magic the originals had. Just like the two Dredd films, the two franchise-starting MK films (95 and 21) have a perfect franchise movie between the two if the best of both was combined together.

All in all though (just like Dredd 2012), two thumbs (and a severed head) up!
 
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iNoScopedJFK

Silent Salty Solider
It was entertaining but I wouldn't call it a good movie. Honestly didn't have any high hopes going into it which helped. Loved a lot of the fan service stuff. Didn't care for Cole, seeing him with those tonfas tho gave me some Kobujutus Tanya b1,2 PTSD tho lol
 

Wildabeast

The Bat in the Hat
It was fine, it was a lot like Godzilla vs Kong. Plot/ premise? Completely nonsensical. Dialogue? Cheesy. Characters? Mostly flat with a couple of exceptions.

Do I really care? No because that's not what I go to a Mortal Kombat movie for. Overall 6/10, I'm not going to pretend that it's a great movie or that it's for everyone. But the fights and effects were awesome and I understood all of the references. Scorpion, Sub Zero, and Kano were great.
 

Revy

★ 19 Years of Jade ★
It was meh, I didn't like it that much but it had it's moments.

Kano & Kabal were literally the best characters & they just killed them off like nothing happened. When I first saw Mehcad Brooks as Jax, I first thought it was Eddie Murphy. I loved all the references of Delia & Argus, Kitana's fan, Quan Chi's amulet & all the gameplay references like spamming sweeps, fatalities & so on. I do think saying "fatality", "flawless victory" & such was a little much. At first, I was confused & didn't like the idea of a black actress playing Mileena but damn was she badass & instantly grew on me. I didn't like Sonya at all, I thought Jessica McNamee was annoying. Nitara was literally there to die but had the coolest death & for Shang Tsung to keep calling her beautiful. Cole was a ridiculous character who went from constantly losing to bums to being able to kill Goro with the most literal sense of plot armour ever. When I saw that Lewis Tan was going to be in it, I was excited because he has one of the coolest fights in Iron Fist but was a letdown in this.

In all honesty, I thought most of the fight scenes were boring but I think it's the way they were shot, I did really like the last fight scene with Scorpion & Sub-Zero but I liked Kabal's & Mileena's fight scenes too.

It's a solid 6/10
 
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So I didnt know what HBO max and apparently it's just a streaming service, but it's only available in the US. So how do I in the UK watch this? I don't want to pay for a vpn, pay $15 for a month subscription just to watch 1 film once... why would they not make it available elsewhere??
You can rent if off Microsoft's Film and TV app. I'm guessing it's on other streaming/rental services as well.
 

Juggs

Lose without excuses
Lead Moderator
Premium Supporter
Movie was horrible. The pacing and scope of the narrative was poor. Cole Young is wooden as hell and only exists so the studio can justify the lore changes (and not for the better). Hanada was underutilized.

All the fights in the latter half of the film (save the final confrontation between Sub and Scorp) felt rushed and lacked payoff, considering so much of the film was hyping up the arcana nonsense.

Characters just teleport all over the place (going wherever they need to go) in the most contrived way possible and next to no actual character development happens.

Kano is the best part of the movie but people here need to ask themselves WHY

THE ANSWER: he is literally playing Johnny Cages role.


All the pop culture quips and the arrogance is literally Johnny's character. I'm surprised no one is picking up on that. Yes, the vulgarity and general menace is up Kano's alley, but just because you filtered the style of Johnny cage through an Aussie accent does NOT mean you made a good Kano.

Rewatch the movie and you will understand.

Score was obnoxious. The production design overall felt like cheap sci fi at some points and a competent marvel show at others. I think set design is mostly to blame here.

Long story short, if they had fixed the pacing (long build up to rushed finale), fix the scope of the movie (theres no stakes because the actual consequences of the tournament are being avoided), and stop the studio meddling in the lore the film might have been good.

I'm an MK fan but this movie is a light 6.
I enjoyed the movie, but a lot of my gripes are exactly what you said. They completely avoided the tournament aspect... for no reason. There was all this build up for epic fights, they even found a way to manipulate it to 1v1’s, and each one lasted like 20 seconds. I actually was super into the movie, it felt like the pacing was great... then all of a sudden, the climaxes were rushed. If each fight lasted 5 minutes, this movie for me would have been a MILLION times better for that alone.

This movie had an insane amount of potential, I really don’t understand how or why they rushed the last 40 minutes of the movie.

And Kano was fucking great and hilarious. Like people were calling him cheesy, but he was legitimately funny. But you’re right, he was 70% Johnny Cage, 30% Kano. So odd

TLDR: poor pacing, character development, and a severe lack of payoff and lack of satisfying fights. BUT, I did enjoy the movie. I loved the humor, the action, the gore, etc. There was a lot of good and potential, no doubt.
 
I got exactly what I was expecting: a cheesy film that was lots of fun. I enjoyed it for what it was, thought it generally captured the spirit of the characters well, and wasn't keen on Cole at all.

Good potential for a sequel and a fun video game flick.
 
I thought the world building was really weak. We're supposed to feel the scope of multi-realms but the only glimpses we get of the realms are Earthrealm and Outworld, which just looks like somewhere nearby in Earthrealm anyway.
Then we get to the temple which seems like it's supposed to be grand at first, but only 3 spaces are utilized within making everything feel small and contrived.

Lewis Tan could have been cast as literally any actual MK character instead and not feel so off the top.
Raiden was poorly utilized imo. Dude was just there, and his costume seemed too heavy for him to actually move naturally in, especially the hat. You can tell he can't move his head well with that thing on and just seems uncomfortable. Also I know it's a nitpick but seeing a room full of characters and Raiden is the 2nd shortest among them really deletes any kind of godly presence he is meant to have. We'll slap some glow effect on his eyes and call it a day.

I'm seeing a lot of praise for Scorpion's story but it heavily relies on the viewer already knowing who these characters are and that they have beef, otherwise their conflict doesn't make any sense beyond Sub-Zero is just a psychopath. So I have to say a lot of the setting felt contrived for these reasons too.

Also, if the tournament wasn't officially active yet and Shang was just trying to cheat and jump the gun outside of tournament rules, why couldn't Raiden just stop the whole thing since he shouldn't be restricted in this case as there's no tournament going on?
I don't mind saving the actual tournament for the sequel but this detail bothers me.

As much as I enjoyed the fanservice moments and Kano in general, it does feel like they missed the mark on a lot of things trying to stitch together the plot.

Also, lol at Reiko and Nitara.
 
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KiD INsAnitY

Z of The Leaf -Team R.A.N
:coffee:I have the most straight to the point explanation that sums up the movie it was good no debate . All that nitpicking it’s just attention begging trying to seem “different” .. Didn’t like it just ain’t as big on MK as you thought. That’s all...no debate.
 

Onryoki

We all die alone. So love yourself before you go.
The movie was trash. Jax’s arms going through a transformation like a fucking Pokémon evolution like please. Not trying to spoil but damn. The story felt rushed, Cole young felt like a filler role, the whole “you have to unlock your magic” plot sucked. Like I expected way more from a MK movie. Not this half assed project.
 

Art Lean

Noob
Curious for all those who say the new movie sucks, how do you compare it to the previous televised media of Mortal Kombat, namely:

MK95
MK The Journey Begins
MK Defenders of the Realm
MK Annihilation
MK Conquest
MK Federation of Martial Arts
MK Rebirth
MK Legacy
MK Legends Scorpion's Revenge

If the new movie sucks, well what was better? How does it rank?
 

Wildabeast

The Bat in the Hat
Agreed on the world building, the Scorpion and Sub Zero rivalry in particular feels very simplified. I guess Bi-Han is just an asshole in this universe.
 
:coffee:I have the most straight to the point explanation that sums up the movie it was good no debate . All that nitpicking it’s just attention begging trying to seem “different” .. Didn’t like it just ain’t as big on MK as you thought. That’s all...no debate.
Is this really a flex for not having thoughts in your head to articulate or what?
Also, irony.
 
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Immortal

Blind justice....
Well... it was mediocre.

There are so many things wrong with it that i dont know where to start... so lets start with what i liked.

Several characters were casted spot on. Sonya, Liu Kang, Shang Tsung, Sub Zero, Scorpion, Jax, Kano and Kabal (sort of since its more of good costume design). Some fights were done pretty well. CGI for the most part was either OK or even good at times (mostly ice effects and Kabal movement). Dialogue lines thou weak for most part had few gems like Kung Lao and Liu Kang banter about/with Kano. Small hints of classic MK music was great thou most of the soundtrack was well... pretty forgettable and nothing special at all which is a shame.

Now for things i didn't like - the story was all over the place, like seriously there was no build up, everybody were on board like that, nobody was really shocked by anything, even Coles family was like "nah it will be fine" when they saw Goro and even after he was killed.... but the worst part is that it didn't held up together at all. Power levels of characters were all over the place, Goro was a mere grunt, so was Nitara (her "fight" with Kung Lao ... WTF was that, a wasted opportunity). Shang Tsung felt like Shao Kahn power wise and Raiden like another grunt who feared him (also Raiden eyes..... couldn't get past that in any of his scenes, they were done so badly...). Sub Zero was like a mini boss for who they needed to team up; to beat him...coz reasons. Reiko had no abilities at all and Jax with "metal" arms just overpowered him... Wait... what?

Same thing with fights - almost all them were all over the place with choreography and the 10+ jump cuts in each one didn't help either. Some of them felt really bad, like damn even looked really bad (Jax vs Reiko, Kano vs Sonya was like next level dumb, Kung Lao vs Nitara or vs Shang Tsung). Same thing with costumes, some of them were subtle and looked fine (or at least matched the ones in the game) and some looked weird and fake - either they serve some top tier food in the Netherrealm and Scorpion just sit there and eat it all or they made Scorpion costume to big coz he looked like he gained 50 pounds while being for centuries in the Netherrealm.

Everything felt rushed coz there is no way to squeeze MK games story into a 100 minute movie. Script was like... nonexistent. They just took few pieces from the game and mixed it all up - few story bits + some fights. That's not really a winning formula. Cole character was bland, had no real backstory it was just a copy paste of Scorpions which felt cheap also his arcana.... i mean power level was all over the place, he easily killed Goro (which was a dumb idea to begin with) but couldn't break Sub Zero ice even thou his doughter and ex-girlfriend/wife were dying in it... Also in fight with Mileena when she teleported he was like... "where will she appear? It can't be at my back, nope so im not gonna watch over my back and let her do it like 3 times in a row coz.... who cares, it will be fine"... thats just one example of how dumb the movie is at times / how bad the script is.

All in all its hard not to feel dissapointed. I hope the movie does well in the box office so we get more (something better) but at the same time i feel that MK 2021 is a wasted opportunity and deserves at most a 5,5/10 (coz like i said - i liked bits and pieces of it but that's about it).
 
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Sugarwatermixlegit

Bruce Campbell 4 MK!!!
Just finished it

I intend on making a full blown review on letterboxd but it’s just...meh? Not good not bad. Some things I loved some things I hated.

Lewis is a fantastic actor but Cole is so fucking boring. Could’ve been literally any Earthrealm hero.
 
I thought it was awful. Bad acting, terrible rushed pace with too many characters with no depth. Kano, and Hanzo were the only memorable characters in the movie. Hanzo cause the performance was pretty good and Kano cause he was funny as shit and stole every scene he was in. The movie felt like a mishmash of scenes from a season of a WB super hero series with all character development scenes edited out. Why did they feel the need to have every call back be so on the nose? We didn't need almost every scene to introduce a tag line from the game that basically said "here's a phrase from the game to remind you we played the game when making this." They were all overly cheesy, badly acted, and didn't really flow with the conversations and always seemed shoe horned in as an out of place nod. Also every character mentioning their name in such a way as to make it sound like everyone is either completely arrogant as shit or the film makers realized they forgot to add character development to the script so mentioning their names in this way would be the only introduction to their lore that was needed? Apparently they assumed fans would explain them to non fans? It was horrible story telling. It's a shame too cause the movies theme was decent and had potential to be a good film as a setup for a better 2nd movie. Now, I dont even really care. I'll watch a sequel for entertainment purposes, but the bar is now extremely low. Shame too because after that mini series of mk shorts a few years back, I had high hopes they were going to inject some maturity and depth into a new movie. I was 100% wrong.
 

Arqwart

D'Vorah for KP2 copium
Fun in a stupid way. Entertaining in the same way greasy fast food hits the spot: awful for me, but I enjoyed it. I will be spoiling shit below so proceed with caution.
Main gripes:
  1. Editing was piss poor, especially in most of the fights. It wasnt just a matter of cuts being jumpy. There was also a lack of good directing for shot composition and sound. Overall just lacking.
  2. It was OBVIOUSLY cut way down for time. The pacing is like an ADHD toddler trying to tell a story.
  3. Hanzo showing up to save Cole instead of Cole getting possessed (even if temporarily) by Hanzo was not only a missed opportunity but a stupid decision. Completely waste of Cole existing.
  4. Cole killing Goro was unacceptable.
  5. They did Nitara and Reiko SO dirty. Over a decade since they've been relevant and they both get slaughtered. Nitara didnt even get to fight.
  6. I didnt realize that was Reiko until he was named. I get creative liberties, but that random dude with the hammer had 0 similarities to the actual character.
  7. So many characters die for no purpose but shock entertainment and brutality.
Main hypes:
  1. For the fights that the editing didnt neuter, the choreography was great.
  2. Kano. Just.. Kano.
  3. Kabal. His effects were neat and he's a perfectly cocky shitbag.
  4. Special effects on characters like Lao, Liu, Raiden, Shang, etc. were pretty damn well done.
  5. Easter eggs galore, both in random lines and referential background things. Nice nod to series fans.
  6. Took itself seriously when it needed to and cheesed it up when it needed to.
  7. Didnt harp on the cheesy one-liners. Just dropped em and moved on.
Overall: a comfy 5/10. Not ever gunna rewatch it unless to show friends who havent seen it, but I had a fun time.
 
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If the movie was the same quality as the intro with hanzo , the movie would had been a 9 out of 10. But holy fuck the movie feel rushed afterward and compressed. So many characters do nothing and some doesnt even talk. The actors are fine beside Liu Kang. They have an amazing soundtrack during the generic but decided to not use it during fight scenes...

I watched the 1995 so many times but i wont rewatch that one ever again.
 
What are Cole's powers lol.

I like the idea of trying to take each other out before the tournament. I'm so over the first tournament so I didn't mind. But it needed to be longer instead of Raiden suddenly teleporting 4 fights into existence.
 
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