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I find it astonishing that the mascot of this series and NRS as a whole has seen nothing but nerfs.

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Conveniently leaves out these two panels of Sub-Zero being roasted and choking Raiden nearly to death..proceeds to talk about Hanzo being nothing without his abilities compared to Raiden and Sub-Zero....no shit Columbus...he is completely human fighting against supernatural abilities without his own...why the hell wouldn't he need or use his powers?

Also conveniently ignored as previously stated by @Zviko that Raiden in MK11 cheap shotted Scorpion twice when he was just standing there trying to reason. Scorpion beat his ass face to face.

He beat D'vorah's ass face to face...she needed to sneak up on Hanzo after the fact.

Killed Quan Chi after beating HIS ass face to face.

You keep cherry picking though...wont change a thing. Scorpion has defeated Sub-Zero more times than vice versa...and now has beaten Raiden on multiple occasions. Their claim to fame is beating Revenant Scorpion? Lol pitiful.
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
We could argue because that amulet attack was unexpected. Scorpion beats him fair and square and then he does that, kind of cheap don't you think? Match was over then Raiden was clearly possessed by that amulet which was obviously the cause of that extra anger and power.
I know, but made sense since Raiden had it on him the whole time. He was letting it corrupt him. Scorpion didn't really beat him though, he knocked him down but if you look to the MK 9 vid Raiden has already beaten Scorpion fair and square anyway in the netherrealm no less. I just think that moment Raiden was getting messed with by Kronika clearly since he put it down once he got the visions like you said, that's why he did it so randomly but tbh he doesn't even need it.
 

Zviko

Noob
I know, but made sense since Raiden had it on him the whole time. He was letting it corrupt him. Scorpion didn't really beat him though, he knocked him down but if you look to the MK 9 vid Raiden has already beaten Scorpion fair and square anyway in the netherrealm no less. I just think that moment Raiden was getting messed with by Kronika clearly since he put it down once he got the visions like you said, that's why he did it so randomly but tbh he doesn't even need it.
Yeah I'm not arguing all the other times Scorpion got beaten, just this one. Basically you played a match as Scorpion against Sub and Raiden and won both times. I think that counts as Scorpion beating them, not what happens in a cutscene after.
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
Yeah I'm not arguing all the other times Scorpion got beaten, just this one. Basically you played a match as Scorpion against Sub and Raiden and won both times. I think that counts as Scorpion beating them, not what happens in a cutscene after.
Well the cutscene is also the canon as well as you fighting them, that's all I'm saying you're not wrong. He KOed Sub there but he definitely didn't beat Raiden as KO him. I hear what you're saying, I'm just saying that Raiden has beaten him before in Scorp's home court when he's not in the mood he won't lose to scorp. The amulet was blinding his proper judgement but if you watch the scene it's a good thing LK was there lol or he would have killed Scorpion with his rage corrupting him from the amulet.

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Conveniently leaves out these two panels of Sub-Zero being roasted and choking Raiden nearly to death..proceeds to talk about Hanzo being nothing without his abilities compared to Raiden and Sub-Zero....no shit Columbus...he is completely human fighting against supernatural abilities without his own...why the hell wouldn't he need or use his powers?

Also conveniently ignored as previously stated by @Zviko that Raiden in MK11 cheap shotted Scorpion twice when he was just standing there trying to reason. Scorpion beat his ass face to face.

He beat D'vorah's ass face to face...she needed to sneak up on Hanzo after the fact.

Killed Quan Chi after beating HIS ass face to face.
I didn't post EVERY scan of the fight because I already explained and confirmed everything you posted....

Also, if we're going to post every scan you do realize Scorpion needed Raiden to SAVE Takeda right? lol

Raiden already beat Scorpion in his right state of mind anyway in MK 9...just watch the vid I posted.

Sub Zero survived direct hell fire to his face and body, when that would have killed just about anyone else but feel free to ignore that lol

He's actually not fully human in that form genius, watch the D'vorah video. He's Hanzo with Scorpion's powers yet STILL got killed by poison tentacles...

He didn't "cheapshot" anything, Scorpion was standing right in front of his face are you blind? Cheapshot implies didn't see it coming Scorpion was looking dead on at Raiden as Raiden was dead on at him. Besides, he knocked him down and the amulet was corrupting Raiden, but not like he needs it against Scorp anyway, MK 9 he beat him. In fact if anything you can argue when posssessed Raiden is weaker because he's not in his right state of mind be it the Kamidogu or the Amulet btw nice job googling all that lol finally found the scans. I knew what to look for being as how I actually read the books.

Uhh no she killed Scorpion and needed his past self to take her out which even past Scorp didn't do, since he chopped off her spider legs and burned her yet she still got away....Scorp didn't beat shit, Raiden owns Scorp when Raiden's serious and beat his ass in his own home court in NR lol.

LMAO yeah he killed a WEAKENED Quan Chi who was binded and beat up from Sonya and the special forces already lol. Conveniently ignores that...
yet again after getting his ass kicked by D'vorah stabbing him lmao...this dude can't fight D'vorah to save his life(literally) as you can see the weakened QC couldn't do shit even after unbinded and barely had enough energy to say a spell and free shinnok
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
You didn't post every scan because you're a cherry picking toddler who makes excuses at every corner.

You are wrong as fuck. Bottom line.
You're obviously a child without an argument in any sense. No, I didn't post every scan because one there's a scan limit on here nooby, two I already explained how the arcs ended and three my point was to show you that scorpion has lost to Raiden, LK, Sub, etc before which you think he beat all of them all the time which is 100% wrong. Period.

You're the one cherry picking, If you actually read what I said I explained everything you posted already. If I was cherry picking I wouldn't have mentioned that I already know you didn't read the comics because you had no idea what I was talking about earlier regarding them, so you went to google to find the scans that suited you thus you are cherrypicking. I'm just telling you that in the canon Scorpion has lost to these characters yet you think he beats them all the time, which is simply wrong. Not to mention losing and dying to other people lol. No you're the one wrong af bottom line, you don't know your lore. You're a scorpion poser who doesn't even know every battle Scorpion has fought and lost simply put. Piece of advice, give up now because you're not going to beat me in any debates regarding MK lore lol.
 
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Tell me more about this Granblue, has a block button? Well..well. That is interesting.



No, I didn't post every scan because one there's a scan limit on here nooby, two I already explained how the arcs ended and three my point was to show you that scorpion has lost to Raiden, LK, Sub, etc before which you think he beat all of them all the time which is 100% wrong. Period.

You're the one cherry picking, If you actually read what I said I explained everything you posted already. If I was cherry picking I wouldn't have mentioned that I already know you didn't read the comics because you had no idea what I was talking about earlier regarding them, so you went to google to find the scans that suited you thus you are cherrypicking. I'm just telling you that in the canon Scorpion has lost to these characters yet you think he beats them all the time, which is simply wrong. Not to mention losing and dying to other people lol. No you're the one wrong af bottom line, you don't know your lore. You're a scorpion poser who doesn't even know every battle Scorpion has fought and lost simply put. Piece of advice, give up now because you're not going to beat me in any debates regarding MK lore lol.
You saw fit to post any and every panel that showed Scorpion at a disadvantage and not the two I posted....what a coincidence

You've been beaten since the start. Your arguments aren't even arguments. "huurrrrrr duurrrrrr well this doesn't count because I'm a toddler..."

Scorpion beat Raiden's fucking ass...TWICE.

He beat Sub-Zero's ass in MK4, MKX (comic included now that I looked it up) and MK11.

There is absolutely nothing you could say to change that. It is 100% fact. Be a toddler all you want. I don't care for children...especially you so I will not pander to the stupidity of your posts.

You even had another user telling you he beat their asses in MK11.

Stay wrong.
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
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You saw fit to post any and every panel that showed Scorpion at a disadvantage and not the two I posted....what a coincidence

You've been beaten since the start. Your arguments aren't even arguments. "huurrrrrr duurrrrrr well this doesn't count because I'm a toddler..."

Scorpion beat Raiden's fucking ass...TWICE.

He beat Sub-Zero's ass in MK4, MKX (comic included now that I looked it up) and MK11.

There is absolutely nothing you could say to change that. It is 100% fact. Be a toddler all you want. I don't care for children...especially you so I will not pander to the stupidity of your posts.

You even had another user telling you he beat their asses in MK11.

Stay wrong.
Nah I saw fit to correct you. You're definitely a kid judging from your ridiculous posts and desperate insults at this point.

Nope, I already owned your posts hours ago as did many others with thread just screams ignorance on your part. The fact that you just keep harping on childish insults proves you've already lost kid. Yet you wonder why people mock you on twitter? lol keep crying Scorpion sucks and that'll only continue.

Actually Raiden beat Scorpion 3 times and could easily kill Scorpion if he wanted, that's why Scorpy was running away from him in MK 11 lol.

Sub has beaten Scorp as well, keep ignoring this though and just going on about when only Scorpion wins but ignore when he loses.

You can't change the canon facts either and they say Scorpion has lost to Raiden, Sub, LK and several others. The fact that you think I'm a child when I'd wager I'm way older than you are given your ignorance is hilarious kid, keep going please.

That other user also agreed with me saying Raiden beat Scorpion as well if you could actually read which clearly you can't. Stay ignorant nooby, think it's past your beddy time kid. :D only a fool would actually think Scorpion never loses and that he sucks in MK 11 lmao...the harsh reality is you suck, up your game. You're using Scorp you have no excuse, go cry somewhere else because clearly many called you out on your ridiculousness both with the topic and with your Scorpion fanboyism. Stay ignorant boy.
 
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MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
You owned nothing. Absolutely nothing. You are a clown. You're forever a clown. You're forever wrong.

Get on your unicycle and fuck off to suckville where your kind resides with their delusions.

You're irrelevant and ignored at this point.
LMAO wow triggered much?

Actually, I'm an Aries.

I would bet my left nut I know more about MK on my worst day than you do on your best day.

A unicycle? Who the hell has or mentions a unicycle in an MK debate? lol and this dude says I'm delusional? lmao what? lol

Yeah I owned you pages ago bud, and now you're just going on petty insults because you've been proven wrong. You know what else? I'd bet money(and I never bet anything) I'd own you in MK too since you obviously suck with Scorpion if you think he sucks.

How about you get lost and go play Mario Brothers. I think that's more on your level. I can literally count the amount of people on this site on one hand who actually agree with you regarding this ridiculous, dumb thread of yours. Scorpion don't suck and he's not low tier lol.

You're an irrelevant troll, period. :D
 
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Misery blade would be nice if 3 didn't whiff several characters.


I don't get it.
ikr. as it turns out you should delay the bump for 1-3 frame in order to hit properly onblock. liu kang can sit duck the B14 MB3 and it would whiff (delayed or not, like 7 out of 10 times) and S1 punish your ass. the bump is one of few good thing Burning Specter has but whiffing it means -25, and it happened way too many times that cost me the round/ game
 

Jay Rupp

Human Smoke or Riot
In my eyes, he's been top 10 two times since MK9's launch (both times were very brief)
  1. In MKX before they nerfed Infernal (including the teleport 50/50)
  2. at the beginning of MK11
It really is a shame : /
 
I have no sympathy for scorpion player's. He may not be top tier for OFFLINE pro players but for online non pro players he is really good. He can be very oppressive the F neutral game with the teleport. He can shut down people from moving from the fear of teleport.......He jump kicks at your for free because you have to guess...teleport or no teleport ? He has good strings with a low into overhead string. He staggers well with his damn kick and throws over and over and over and over again. His one variation allows him to teleport cancel.....and the blade overhead variation I haven't even figured out what that is about yet. He has good simple overhead knock down move in ADDITION to the short hop so he can mix you up. Why can't kitana get that? He can sit back and throw spears full screen and you would be surprised how often they catch people not blocking!!! His teleport works well on wake up to get right back on people.....He has good damage and Krushings blows.....he is overall a GOOD and SOLID character and I don't feel bad for scorpion players AT ALL.
 
A majority of online opinions don't count. Scorpion literally got nerfed because of bad online opinions. Y'all didn't wanna block teleport so you cried to nrs
 

DarkSado

Noob
A majority of online opinions don't count. Scorpion literally got nerfed because of bad online opinions. Y'all didn't wanna block teleport so you cried to nrs
They should have keep it as mid but only meter burn it on hit., but the tele was stupid in the beginning of the game.
 
They should have keep it as mid but only meter burn it on hit., but the tele was stupid in the beginning of the game.
that was a nerf the scorpion mains would have settled on but that clearly wasn't the chosen nerf. what was stupid were people complaining and not blocking. now they just whiff crouch buttons in neutral. plenty of other untouched fuck neutral moves still going though
 

Scoot Magee

But I didn't want to dash
The sad thing is that I think they designed the character around that mid teleport. When they took it away they also nerfed his d4 pretty badly, that made no sense to me. They should have given him something to make up for the teleport instead of nerfing one of his best neutral tools. I guess a 22 frame b3 is the buff we all needed?

Outside of the kb throw buff I dont really see the point in the other changes. Mb burning spear is interesting but I dont think it's worth burning a bar for. It beats out a lot of pokes and can anti air but I just dont see it really adding much to the character.
 

Hot_DNA

Noob
I have no sympathy for scorpion player's. He may not be top tier for OFFLINE pro players but for online non pro players he is really good. He can be very oppressive the F neutral game with the teleport. He can shut down people from moving from the fear of teleport.......He jump kicks at your for free because you have to guess...teleport or no teleport ? He has good strings with a low into overhead string. He staggers well with his damn kick and throws over and over and over and over again. His one variation allows him to teleport cancel.....and the blade overhead variation I haven't even figured out what that is about yet. He has good simple overhead knock down move in ADDITION to the short hop so he can mix you up. Why can't kitana get that? He can sit back and throw spears full screen and you would be surprised how often they catch people not blocking!!! His teleport works well on wake up to get right back on people.....He has good damage and Krushings blows.....he is overall a GOOD and SOLID character and I don't feel bad for scorpion players AT ALL.
I agree with you but I do think we are a little biased because we are Jade players
 

Cashual

PSN: Cansuela
nrs is just bad at balancing and they repeat the same mistake over and over and over again: make characters that are extraordinary good at multiple things. like having great mixups, huge combos and top zoning at once.
I get that there things that are out of place, and really strong characters, but you must not play other games. MK11 and Injustice 2 have a lot of viable characters and are very balanced compared with a lot of other games.
 

Cashual

PSN: Cansuela
Yeah lol f34 into spear or teleport would look really slick without needing a KB.

Glad we agree on that back 1 buff though. I just dont think they'll ever do it.

Face of the franchise getting treated like trash.

Oblivious to it too.
So Scorpion should just always be top tier because he’s the “face of the franchise”? This argument doesn’t make sense. Why isn’t Ryu top tier?
 
So Scorpion should just always be top tier because he’s the “face of the franchise”? This argument doesn’t make sense. Why isn’t Ryu top tier?
ryu too was nerfed in sf5 practically unjustly. there was no reason for his nerfs and he stayed that way for about 3 seasons of sf5. i don't expect or really want scorpion to be top tier but he and poster boys should be sitting comfortably at mid maybe mid-high