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Snibbor

Yarrrr Matey
Isn't Liu's bicycle kick a restand too? How plus is it on hit?
Yes, Bicycle kick restands if not AMP’d, and I believe it is +3. However, Liu Kang has a couple of 9f mids as well, so he has an easier time getting pressure off it than Johnny does.
 

Edlaw

Noob
Yes, Bicycle kick restands if not AMP’d, and I believe it is +3. However, Liu Kang has a couple of 9f mids as well, so he has an easier time getting pressure off it than Johnny does.
That makes no sense! How come he gets to have meterless launcher and guaranteed pressure after restand while Johnny is getting mashed out of everything?
 
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Deleted member 35141

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Sonya has a restand too remember?
Yea I'm surprised we don't see it more as the pro players seem to finish the string, they rather go for the extra 2% than restand that should tell us something.

On a side note I was just grabbed through a max range f4 and I find that rediculous.
 

DeftMonk

Noob
That makes no sense! How come he gets to have meterless launcher and guaranteed pressure after restand while Johnny is getting mashed out of everything?
Jjohnny's restand is better than lius for sure (more plus and if I recall better positioning outside of corner). Johnny has plenty of tools bro don't down play.
 

DeftMonk

Noob
I’d rather fight a bunch of Scorpions than EB, Sonya, And Cassie though.
Bro no lie I just got the game on pc so I can play when im outside the country played 16 matches on kkombat league yesterday 15 scorpions one rando Shao Kahn. Was like what in the flying....ps4 nowhere near that bad.
 
So is it normal to not achieve kbs in practice mode even with it set to easy krushing blows? Wth...camera flash even after three misses isn't krushing for some reason but it would previously am I missing something? The second hit of f3,4 isn't even doing it and yes I have reset it just in case. Anyone else have this issue?

Edit: sorry f4,3
 

Wigy

There it is...
So is it normal to not achieve kbs in practice mode even with it set to easy krushing blows? Wth...camera flash even after three misses isn't krushing for some reason but it would previously am I missing something? The second hit of f3,4 isn't even doing it and yes I have reset it just in case. Anyone else have this issue?

Edit: sorry f4,3
Have you got easy KBs set to the right player. It's player 1 or 2 or both.
 
Somebody please explain to me how to amplify the mime counter. Sometimes it works for me, but most of the time it doesn't. I've been landing the crushing blow a lot recently, but I can never get the most out of it. It's like the weirdest fucking move to amplify in the game.
 

Edlaw

Noob
Jjohnny's restand is better than lius for sure (more plus and if I recall better positioning outside of corner). Johnny has plenty of tools bro don't down play.
I think Johnny is the only character in this game that is getting mashed out of his restand. I haven't seen anyone disrespect Cassie and Liu, given that their restands have less frame advantage than Johnny
 

Edlaw

Noob
Somebody please explain to me how to amplify the mime counter. Sometimes it works for me, but most of the time it doesn't. I've been landing the crushing blow a lot recently, but I can never get the most out of it. It's like the weirdest fucking move to amplify in the game.
You mean the BnB? Here you go

 

Error404

Noob
Somebody please explain to me how to amplify the mime counter. Sometimes it works for me, but most of the time it doesn't. I've been landing the crushing blow a lot recently, but I can never get the most out of it. It's like the weirdest fucking move to amplify in the game.
I think the window to amplify changes when it hits as a KB for whatever reason. When you get the KB , amp after the punch. With regular counter amplify when JC is about to throw them.
 

Name v.5.0

Iowa's Finest.
I think Johnny is the only character in this game that is getting mashed out of his restand. I haven't seen anyone disrespect Cassie and Liu, given that their restands have less frame advantage than Johnny
If you’re getting mashed out after nut punch then your timing is off. This rarely ever happens to me. D1, D3, D4 and throw can’t be poked if you’re timing is on.
 
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DeftMonk

Noob
I mean it depends on what you go for bro if u go for f4 and they d1 of course ur gonna lose ur turn but I mean if you time your shit right d1 v d1 shouldnt get beat out.
 

Name v.5.0

Iowa's Finest.
mid f3 would definately change him as people would have to hold ur f3 staggers instead of exploding u with d2
It's a 14 frame attack though. If you attempt to stagger with it and they go to poke, you're still going to get beat. This happens with me when I play as Shang and do his B1 stagger which is I think, also a 14 frame attack and it's a mid. Easy to poke. The mind game we have, is that you know that people are looking for that big D2. So they neutral duck and wait for that F3 and THEN D2 after it whiffs. They're not always looking for a poke. That's when F4 or B3 comes into play. F3 as a mid would be good though, I can't deny that. Just trying to give you the silver lining.
 

Cobainevermind87

Mid-match beer sipper
I think he means after f344~ex forceballs (provided they didn't whiff) where you're +6 and perfectly spaced so that your f3 just barely reaches. They don't really have any normals that can compete with the range of the now 8 frame f3.