Jax Hunker Down Bad MU's Poll

[LawAbidingCitizen]

Jackson Briggs is an amazing Brawler/Rushdown character, mainly stays at F2 range and mixes with Oh and Low with Staggers, lacks zoning unless is heated up but has BF2 in hunker down and Fatal blow to close the gap.

I am curious what MUs you think are bad for him and why.

In my opinion I think Cassie, Erron, Cetrion, Kabal and Scorpion are possible Bad MU's for him.

Vote on poll I'll set it up to have 5 votes since many characters don't have more than that.

 

[Dreamcatcher]

Easily Scorpion in my book. But yeah Erron and Cetrion are not fun either.

 

[Jhonnykiller45]

Easily Scorpion in my book. But yeah Erron and Cetrion are not fun either.

So what about Scorpion do you think troubles Jax?

 

[DrFolmer]

I think characters with really good footsies can be rather problematic for him. His advancing buttons arent particular great and f33 is horrible on whiff. I think guys like Scorpion and Cassie can really shut his approach down rather hard

 

[Dreamcatcher]

So what about Scorpion do you think troubles Jax?

Because if a high level Scorpion plays the life lead game, you're constantly fighting to get back within neutral. Not to say this isn't the case with some others, to me Scorpion just seems to have more control than anyone else for the MU.

edit: Also BF2 is much less effective against Scorp because of the spear, but you can actually catch a punish against someone like Cetrion trying to stay away.

 

[wsj515]

I don't think Scorpion wins, but I think Scorpion definitely controls the pace of the match. The matchup requires the Jax player to be extremely patient when walking down and playing footsies.

 

[ATIWAB]

Scorpion's not so bad, just have to play really defensively.

Jade and Cetrion are the worst MUs for me personally, should probably lab it more.

 

[Dreamcatcher]

Maybe it's me. Scorpion is the worst MU for me as a Jax main, I'm admittingly not as patient as I should be in this game.

 

[TyCarter35]

He def has more than 5 bad MUs I'll say that

 

[freerf245]

Cassie Kabal and Cetrion are his hardest imo. Jade and Skarlet can be hard too. Erron is not. They both have options at every point on the screen and get to play their game.

 

[lionheart21]

I'm interested to hear how Jade gives Jax a hard time, seeing how his zoning isn't all that great for Glow to have much of a factor in that matchup.

 

[ATIWAB]

I'm interested to hear how Jade gives Jax a hard time, seeing how his zoning isn't all that great for Glow to have much of a factor in that matchup.

For me personally, not about her Glow at all, it's that his advancing normals have a shorter range than her normals so it's a struggle to get in sometimes and her solid AA game stops a lot of JI attempts to close the distance too.

 

[lionheart21]

For me personally, not about her Glow at all, it's that his advancing normals have a shorter range than her normals so it's a struggle to get in sometimes and her solid AA game stops a lot of JI attempts to close the distance too.

Gotcha, so she beats him in the footsies game. Makes sense.

 

[DayAlreadySucks]

What about Baraka

 

[ATIWAB]

What about Baraka

The safety of his advancing F44 into D3 jail into 112 pressure string from range is mad annoying sometimes but he's not really that bad as Marauder if you know how he works (and play him yourself) because it's a little more predictable/honest with what he's about to do. He also basically HAS to know how to Flawless Block -> U3 the Expert Grappler overhead on each of your strings that use it and convert into big damage to really be a hard matchup over a long set, Jax has better KBs and will win on raw damage alone otherwise since you both play in the same range.

Bone Picker can be a nightmare though, especially if you get stuck in a corner trying to guess against his low/command grab/walkback spine burst into corner combo options. His keep-away game is strong with Spark + Spine.

Jax should still win this matchup 6-4 IMO

 

[DrFolmer]

I'm interested to hear how Jade gives Jax a hard time, seeing how his zoning isn't all that great for Glow to have much of a factor in that matchup.

Her d4 checks make it super difficult to approach while she has arguably one of the best anti air toolsets in the game (shes no Cetrion though). Also Jax thrives on momentum. It takes a while to chase Jade down, and you dont generate heat doing that. Up thumper actually helps more than you think, and I think thumper generally is a really underrated counter zoning tool as it nets a knockdown.

 

[wsj515]

I used to think jade was an awful matchup for jax, but after grinding the hell out of the matchup i think its 5-5. Cetrion is the only one im pretty sure is a horrible matchup for jax. Specifically the teleport variation. Scorpion is a pain in the ass, but hes a pain in the ass for everyone. Just because he not fun to play against doesnt mean hes a bad matchup imo.

Its funny, so many Jades counter pick me when I play Jax, that I've just gotten good at/comfortable with the matchup. I think Jade wins, but so many people who use Jade as a counter pick are just used to winning with the pick itself - they end up being awful at the actual matchup, making it easier for the Jax player who has more of a grasp on it.

 

[ATIWAB]

Shang Tsung btw

 

[DrFolmer]

Shang Tsung btw

I could see it being somewhat bad in time. A big plus for us is his average short ranged wakeups - makes for some easy b2's. Shang's zoning is full of options but I dont feel like it's particularly fast. Thumper knocking down is actually pretty decent so far I feel.

Shang's main footsie string has an insane vertical hitbox, dont be surprised when he accidently AA's your jumpover LOL

 

[SaSSolino]

Sonya is never a good time with Jax.

 

[LawAbidingCitizen]

I could see it being somewhat bad in time. A big plus for us is his average short ranged wakeups - makes for some easy b2's. Shang's zoning is full of options but I dont feel like it's particularly fast. Thumper knocking down is actually pretty decent so far I feel.

Shang's main footsie string has an insane vertical hitbox, dont be surprised when he accidently AA's your jumpover LOL

Shang has so many gaps he could be a trump supporter

 

[ATIWAB]

Shang has so many gaps he could be a trump supporter

Doesn't matter how many gaps he has when his 114 is so good, he can mix off the B3D4/B3U4 cancel, literally every time he has 1 offensive bar he can make any string end in 30%+ and, if they want it, soul steal, in Warlock because of DB1 amp juggle.

Fireballs and ground explosion and corpse drop will zone the shit out of Jax before he has any chance to try and poke out a gap, by the time he gets in he basically has one chance to open Shang up -- if he fucks it up, the 114 punish kicks him back out to full screen on a DB1Amp with DB1 or BF4 ender.

It's gonna be a rough matchup in Warlock.

Other variation isn't so bad for Jax though.

 

[STB Sgt Reed]

Well, I couldn't vote for as many as I wanted cause it was restricted.

But PERSONALLY, I think his bad mus are:

Cetrion
Jade
Kabal
Sonya
Cassie
Skarlet

 

[S+ Main]

This boy has a spicy wavedash, so no bad matchups

 

[MGTarkus]

I personally think his only bad match up is Cassie. He doesn’t have issues getting in on zoner a since the second half of bf2 is mostly immune to projectiles. Cassie’s low gun is hard to rush in on and she has back 3 to stop jump ins and the like. Cassie’s footsies is way better as well. As long as you can hit them once you can keep pressure for ever.