NO MORE FREE CANCELS

[SaltShaker]

Funniest part about this whole thing is, if you only nerf her cancels to require 1 D-Bar she'd be exactly as strong as she is now lol.

 

[Dabluprint4]

b34 is +4
11 is +2 so you are wrong

kabal,liu,raiden all cost bars to cancel so should she.

Kabal, Liu, and raiden can cancel normals? No. they are canceling specials.. HUGE difference.

 

[deathstroke187]

Kabal, Liu, and raiden can cancel normals? No. they are canceling specials.. HUGE difference.

what? loll im not even

 

[Dabluprint4]

what? loll im not even

No. Let's. Cancel a normal and canceling a special move is the same thing?

 

[deathstroke187]

No. Let's. Cancel a normal and canceling a special move is the same thing?

it has nothing to do with that its give free pressure and mix ups , like i said she can throw,plus pressure you and just f3feint or f31 why should she get that ? and it had nothing to do with been a normal or a special it doesnt change the facts that its broken plus liu and raiden dont get free pressure after that its unsafe. only kabal does but it cost a bar. its fine we understand you like your broke ass brain dead characters its cool.

im pretty sure TYM at some point will give me brain cancer

 

[Marlow]

why should she get that ?

Because she doesn't have an OH/L mix up, she doesn't have a projectile, she has stubby range, and she doesn't have a great way in other than simple walk and block.

 

[Wigy]

The feints should stay if she's op get rid of something else.

The feints are fine. If you make them cost bar then they become useless cause she's ALREADY GOT GOOD STAGGER PRESSURE.

Getting rid of those changes nothing. Make f3 slower or get rid on b34 plus frames or something.

Also her plus frames start off the stubbiest of highs and a low that has a gap you can full combo punish on read.

Feints are not the issue, listing all these random other tools that she has doesn't add any weight to the arguments that feints cost a bar.

Also comparisons to kabal are silly.

He has better neutral tools and zoning. Apples and oranges.

 

[deathstroke187]

Because she doesn't have an OH/L mix up, she doesn't have a projectile, she has stubby range, and she doesn't have a great way in other than simple walk and block.

she doesnt need low/ow mixups when she pressures you for days. she either do f31 cancel into launcher or f31 cancel then go for front/back throw or 11 that is +2 then repeat . if it would cost a bar she whould have 2 pressure that pressure is mixups and its better than overhead/low mixups if your opponent press anything he dies

 

[Blade4693]

I liked REO's idea, make it so it doesn't cost a bar of meter but she can't use the cancels unless she has a least one offensive bar.

 

[santanabar]

she doesnt need low/ow mixups when she pressures you for days. she either do f31 cancel into launcher or f31 cancel then go for front/back throw or 11 that is +2 then repeat . if it would cost a bar she whould have 2 pressure that pressure is mixups and its better than overhead/low mixups if your opponent press anything he dies

Dude wtf are u talking about? She can go into f3 -2 on block and throw you, it's the same thing. 11 is a high, like 80% of the roster is plus on block on a high. You want her to have average pressure, without the tools others characters have?

 

[Gruntypants]

Jacqui is SSS tier online because the lag and netcode can make her staggers a guessing game(or block infinite if you don't want to guess) because you have to input poke before you can confirm that she's doing a stagger.
Jacqui players are also the only people I've seen with absurd W/L ratios, which is is a testament to her online superiority.

Offline she's still super good but not broken.

The real question is if NRS is gonna nerf her in some way that makes her less OP online. I'm not sure how they can do that without making her much worse offline.

 

[deathstroke187]

Jacqui is SSS tier online because the lag and netcode can make her staggers a guessing game(or block infinite if you don't want to guess) because you have to input poke before you can confirm that she's doing a stagger.
Jacqui players are also the only people I've seen with absurd W/L ratios, which is is a testament to her online superiority.

Offline she's still super good but not broken.

The real question is if NRS is gonna nerf her in some way that makes her less OP online. I'm not sure how they can do that without making her much worse offline.

nah she should spend meeter, force jacqui players to use their brain

 

[Lt. Boxy Angelman]

I want to agree with this because KO Jacqui is a PROBLEM, but cancelling her cancels isn't the way to do it.

She actually bares a big ol' resemblance to my MKX main, Killer Leatherface. Yes, she hits like a fucking bus, but if you were to change her THIS way, it would completely invalidate the character. Same as if Berserker Cancels had cost stamina, it would take all the fear and the meat away of what makes them good.

 

[Gruntypants]

nah she should spend meeter, force jacqui players to use their brain

Spend meter for what?? To cancel F31? That's a terrible idea.
I think they should maybe increase blockstun on F3 so F31 cancel is easier to react to, though even that could be a big nerf offline-wise.

 

[Blazeglory88]

How about EVERYONE gets free cancels. More fun that way, more crazy MK9 type shit. Every character should have something crazy that makes them stand out, instead of most characters being cardboard cutouts from player to player.
No more Nerfs only B U F F S, keep going up until the game is unrecognizable and everyones hitting 40% 1 bar and cancelling into unsafe shit with no consequences.
Balance? Yeah right bro, fuck that shit. Dummy thicc combos into 1 second fatal blow recharge, lets get that fucking bread homie!

 

[Juggs]

b34 is +4
11 is +2 so you are wrong

kabal,liu,raiden all cost bars to cancel so should she.

Gap.

High.

Next.

 

[deathstroke187]

Gap.

High.

Next.

gap, she can cancel into special from f3 making it a mixups

high, still is plus 2 doesnt matter

 

[SHAOLIN]

@deathstroke187

I'm taking my like'd back. . .

 

[Divine- Jzb]

lmao people complaining about jacqui feints are just lazy and don’t want to learn MU’s. I fight people online all day who FC punish me for doing cancels on them. You know why? Because they make reads. Jacqui is helpless full screen until she makes her read and gets in. And you know what? Zoners are sitting full screen chipping away at her for free that whole time. So considering any character with a projectile has a free meterless way to do damage to jacqui while her only option is to walk in until she’s in bf2 or b2 range (which isn’t even a safe in and neither make it her turn afterwards) why isn’t she allowed to have a meterless cancel that isn’t hit confirmable or real? It’s called balance. Complain about free cancels all you want, but there’s tons of “free” shit in this game and you’re clearly just salty. A reasonable nerf to jacqui would be making f3 and f31 more negative on block, those staggers can be cheesy online. Making her cancels cost meter? REO has it right, they shouldn’t be available when she’s out of offense, but that’s it. People complaining are just salty and want to see this character get buried. Stfu deathstroke and git gud.

Final note: if jacquis cancels were to cost meter, why would you even play her over Kabal? Kabal has cancels AND projectiles, damage, resets, better normals. You’re proposition is founded in salty nonsense.

 

[spidey300]

I wish they had made a new character that revolved around muay thai instead of giving it to jaqui. breathe in this chick's direction and here she comes with cancels and b22 safe dash punch

 

[Marlow]

I wish they had made a new character that revolved around muay thai instead of giving it to jaqui. breathe in this chick's direction and here she comes with cancels and b22 safe dash punch

I'm not sure B22 and Bionic Dash are actually that safe.

 

[Divine- Jzb]

I'm not sure B22 and Bionic Dash are actually that safe.

U can literally d2 KB her dash punch if you duck, and you have zero reason to not be ducking full screen against her until she gets in b2 range, and she can’t even get her dash punch KB once she’s in b2 range

 

[Marlow]

U can literally d2 KB her dash punch if you duck, and you have zero reason to not be ducking full screen against her until she gets in b2 range, and she can’t even get her dash punch KB once she’s in b2 range

That's what I thought. Plus I thought the 2 of B22 was also a high? Either way they're both -7 on block, so if you block them it's your turn. I figured her dash punch was more of whiff punish tool than a get in tool.

 

[Evil Canadian]

jackkeuie need metal arms like her dad ther i balance her thank u

 

[Divine- Jzb]

That's what I thought. Plus I thought the 2 of B22 was also a high? Either way they're both -7 on block, so if you block them it's your turn. I figured her dash punch was more of whiff punish tool than a get in tool.

Exactlyyyyyyy. Some characters have advancing mids that literally make it their turn afterwards...and they have projectiles. If u actually complain about bf2 or b2 being brain dead, ur the one that’s brain dead