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Raiden's Fatalities, Brutalities and Krushing Blows

Cosmic Forge

Practice mode noob
I'm not far from unlocking it, I'll try again then.

Strange though that I could do the brutality before without unlocking it.
 

Mandolore1123

Man of Science Who Wields the Living Lightning
I find that I can do fatalities that I haven’t unlocked yet, does that apply to brutalities too? As long as I know the requirements I can do them right?
 

Cosmic Forge

Practice mode noob
Man who knows. I'm in the stage 4 platform for Raiden right now. It's the one that awards Karma (the lightning strike brutality)...

Before I leave for dinner, the requirements are like, 125 fatal blows, 150 krushing blows, 50 flawless wins, etc.

1 hour later I come back and they "hotfix" the tower and its like, 25 fatal blows, 25 KB's, 15 flawless wins. LOL!

So yeah, i'm out of answers for now. I'm gonna finish this platform shortly and try these brutals again and post results.

EDIT --

Unlocked Karma. Got it to work, as well as Brutal Bolt!

And guess what, both descriptions are wrong as hell! lmao

Karma says life must be under 30% and from long range. Nope.

Brutal bolt says b,f+3, R1 after quick charge and a mercy. NOPE.

Turns out, Karma doesn't require 30% or less life, BRUTAL BOLT DOES. lmao
And guess what? Brutal bolt doesn't require a mercy OR quick charge.

Guys, I think the dudes at NRS need to put the peace pipe down long enough to get this shit straight. I'm gonna update this post and the OP when I upload these videos shortly.

Karma/Lightning strike showing Raiden at full health and close range, and no mercy/quick charge/etc:

Here's Brutal Bolt. No mercy, no quick charge.
 
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Mandolore1123

Man of Science Who Wields the Living Lightning
Man who knows. I'm in the stage 4 platform for Raiden right now. It's the one that awards Karma (the lightning strike brutality)...

Before I leave for dinner, the requirements are like, 125 fatal blows, 150 krushing blows, 50 flawless wins, etc.

1 hour later I come back and they "hotfix" the tower and its like, 25 fatal blows, 25 KB's, 15 flawless wins. LOL!

So yeah, i'm out of answers for now. I'm gonna finish this platform shortly and try these brutals again and post results.

EDIT --

Unlocked Karma. Got it to work, as well as Brutal Bolt!

And guess what, both descriptions are wrong as hell! lmao

Karma says life must be under 30% and from long range. Nope.

Brutal bolt says b,f+3, R1 after quick charge and a mercy. NOPE.

Turns out, Karma doesn't require 30% or less life, BRUTAL BOLT DOES. lmao
And guess what? Brutal bolt doesn't require a mercy OR quick charge.

Guys, I think the dudes at NRS need to put the peace pipe down long enough to get this shit straight. I'm gonna update this post and the OP when I upload these videos shortly.

Karma/Lightning strike showing Raiden at full health and close range, and no mercy/quick charge/etc:

Here's Brutal Bolt. No mercy, no quick charge.
How’d you get that black and purple outfit :eek:
 

Mandolore1123

Man of Science Who Wields the Living Lightning
Man who knows. I'm in the stage 4 platform for Raiden right now. It's the one that awards Karma (the lightning strike brutality)...

Before I leave for dinner, the requirements are like, 125 fatal blows, 150 krushing blows, 50 flawless wins, etc.

1 hour later I come back and they "hotfix" the tower and its like, 25 fatal blows, 25 KB's, 15 flawless wins. LOL!

So yeah, i'm out of answers for now. I'm gonna finish this platform shortly and try these brutals again and post results.

EDIT --

Unlocked Karma. Got it to work, as well as Brutal Bolt!

And guess what, both descriptions are wrong as hell! lmao

Karma says life must be under 30% and from long range. Nope.

Brutal bolt says b,f+3, R1 after quick charge and a mercy. NOPE.

Turns out, Karma doesn't require 30% or less life, BRUTAL BOLT DOES. lmao
And guess what? Brutal bolt doesn't require a mercy OR quick charge.

Guys, I think the dudes at NRS need to put the peace pipe down long enough to get this shit straight. I'm gonna update this post and the OP when I upload these videos shortly.

Karma/Lightning strike showing Raiden at full health and close range, and no mercy/quick charge/etc:

Here's Brutal Bolt. No mercy, no quick charge.
Do you need to amplify lightning strike? Or just combo into it?
 

Cosmic Forge

Practice mode noob
Neither. They hotfixed it and brutal bolt a few times. Currently Karma/LS just requires final hit from LS on a standing opponent (not an anti air)
 

Mandolore1123

Man of Science Who Wields the Living Lightning
Neither. They hotfixed it and brutal bolt a few times. Currently Karma/LS just requires final hit from LS on a standing opponent (not an anti air)
So I can’t do a string into it. Is that what you’re saying? I have to hit them with the last hit with lightning strike alone?
 

OhManTFE

Noob
Cosmic Forge, are these all of Raiden's brutalities? Are there any more that are missing at this stage or have we seen them all now?

Also, if I wanted to collect all these what is the best way - just keep doing his character towers?
 

Cosmic Forge

Practice mode noob
So I can’t do a string into it. Is that what you’re saying? I have to hit them with the last hit with lightning strike alone?
Oh I see what you mean. I guess my answer should have been "either". A stand alone LS or comboing into it both works. As long as they are still standing (so short combos only).
Cosmic Forge, are these all of Raiden's brutalities? Are there any more that are missing at this stage or have we seen them all now?

Also, if I wanted to collect all these what is the best way - just keep doing his character towers?
Should be all 8 brutalities that I know of. Haven't seen or heard of any others.

The krypt has most of them. Character tower floors 2 and 4 have brutalities. I don't recall getting any outside that. Check the ones listed in the OP to see which ones you get from Towers.
 

Mandolore1123

Man of Science Who Wields the Living Lightning
For his forward throw brutality, it seems really inconsistent, do I press 1 and 2 together or alternate? It’s like the game doesn’t want to give me my brutal :(
 

Snake Sound 222

Tonight, Tarkata feasts
For the Zap Zap brutality, when exactly are you supposed to hit 1 and 2? I tried hitting them right when the throw animation started and it didn't work.
 

Mandolore1123

Man of Science Who Wields the Living Lightning
For the Zap Zap brutality, when exactly are you supposed to hit 1 and 2? I tried hitting them right when the throw animation started and it didn't work.
I find it most consistent to press 1 and 2 rapidly after he’s actually grabbed the opponent. So wait until you see the grab connect, then spam the buttons
 

Cosmic Forge

Practice mode noob
I had a hunch at work today about the Electric Fly brutality (Planted), and whether or not cancelled EF's counted towards the requirement.

And they do. You can do 4 cancelled EF's (b,f+3~hold, down down) and finish them off with an amped EF holding down and the brutality works.

Updating the brutality description.
 

Kratilim

Noob
I've been trying to get his electric fly KB to work, but it didn't always work. Even at full screen. Then suddenly, it triggers when I do one right up in the AI's face. Going to test if its a punish instead of full screen or something. But it seems off a bit. Anyone confirm?
 

Mandolore1123

Man of Science Who Wields the Living Lightning
Have the requirements for the Karma brutality changed? I can’t seem to do it when doing df2 from a combo, I can only do it from full screen
 

Cosmic Forge

Practice mode noob
Have the requirements for the Karma brutality changed? I can’t seem to do it when doing df2 from a combo, I can only do it from full screen
Hmm. It does seem to require a bare minimum distance away, like Brutal Bolt does. I was able to technically perform Karma with the "close" input (d,f+2~B), but only after a combo that staggered them to a medium distance.

I tested in mid screen with b+1,2~Lightning Strike (d,f+2~B) and the Brutal worked.
I tested in the corner with 1,2~Lightning Strike (d,f+2~B) and it didn't work.

Final analysis: which input you use doesn't matter. Only that they are not close (I'd say at least jab range).

Thanks for the finding. I'll update both Brutals now
 

Mandolore1123

Man of Science Who Wields the Living Lightning
Hmm. It does seem to require a bare minimum distance away, like Brutal Bolt does. I was able to technically perform Karma with the "close" input (d,f+2~B), but only after a combo that staggered them to a medium distance.

I tested in mid screen with b+1,2~Lightning Strike (d,f+2~B) and the Brutal worked.
I tested in the corner with 1,2~Lightning Strike (d,f+2~B) and it didn't work.

Final analysis: which input you use doesn't matter. Only that they are not close (I'd say at least jab range).

Thanks for the finding. I'll update both Brutals now
Many thanks. Great work maintaining the thread
 

Mandolore1123

Man of Science Who Wields the Living Lightning
Really wish NRS can push out a patch soon, not to buff or nerf characters, just to fix hitboxes, and change up all the brutality requirements so they work as intended and can be executed consistently. Can’t tell you how many times I’ve been mashing 1+2 during a front throw that didn’t result in a brutality, how many times I’ve hit lightning strike just as they die and it does trigger the brutality. I’m fine with having requirements to fish for, but they have to be consistent and CORRECTLY STATE WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO, NOT SOMETHING THAT BLATANTLY WRONG AND WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT FOR OURSELVES :(