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UMK3 Post Patch (MKAK)

Eternal

Noob
online feels great....its like p2p mame.......I played kanomk2 and vlad from honduras for a while and it was descent and playable... I played someone from the eastcoast and it was good...(im from north west)....i played a few people from the westcoast and it was great!!!.... overall im happy
 

AC1984

Kaballin!
Also a bunch of people quit on me and I didnt get the points for it...If some one drops on select screen u dont get shit.
 

Juggs

Lose without excuses
Lead Moderator
Also a bunch of people quit on me and I didnt get the points for it...If some one drops on select screen u dont get shit.
Must be PSN only that does that. I get points as long as they quit after the pre-game lobby.
 

Br0ken

Noob
It seems like every match has delay. I've yet to play someone where it feels like there's no delay. It's weird cause I can play [MENTION=346]MKK hanzo[/MENTION] who lives in Venezuela and have the same delay with him as I do with people in the USA. It's really annoying having people jump kicking you all day and you not being able to anti-air. I've noticed this in all 3 games, not just UMK3. Is it just my connection? Is it just that I'm using a broken controller?

Please tell me your thoughts on the netcode of this game. I'm more interested in the veterans of UMK3 since they will noticed delay more than others.
Yea I notice there is slight input delay vs everyone, I musta played over 100 ranked umk3 matches today, and felt the delay, Its so annoying when you drop combos because of this, But I must say the netcode is far better than it was.
 

9.95

Noob
Ok, I'm officially changing my stance on this...

MK1 - Never played it online so I don't know...

MK2 - online feels fine.. very playable... the speed of the game is conducive to online play.

UMK3 - ABSOLUTELY FRIGGIN UNPLAYABLE. UMK3 has way to many "to the frame" moments to be playable. You can't block on time, you can't punish on time... NOTHING WORKS PROPERLY... the simple fact is, UMK3 is too fast and the speed of the game is not conducive to online play. There is NOTHING fun about UMK3 online. You guys will NEVER see me online with this game...EVER. SMH, this game just sucks online...


Playing UMK3 OFFLINE



Playing UMK3 ONLINE
 

NoDoubt

nasty
Must be PSN only that does that. I get points as long as they quit after the pre-game lobby.

Unfortunately theres ways around this now. Mr Bass quit on me before the "finish him" came up and the whole game froze for almost a minute. I just waited. After it said he left, I didnt gain points and he didnt lose points. lol o well. looks like we need another patch cuz were about to get some top 5ers

: ( I was #1 for like 3 days too just playing it how i supposed to.
 

Juggs

Lose without excuses
Lead Moderator
Unfortunately theres ways around this now. Mr Bass quit on me before the "finish him" came up and the whole game froze for almost a minute. I just waited. After it said he left, I didnt gain points and he didnt lose points. lol o well. looks like we need another patch cuz were about to get some top 5ers

: ( I was #1 for like 3 days too just playing it how i supposed to.
Maybe he unplugged his ethernet cord or dashboarded. I don't know if they compensated for being able to do either.
 

NoDoubt

nasty
Not only can u avoid losing points through freezing it but some players can actually quit before the round ends flat out and still avoid point loss.

"Itz x Yoshi" just did it on me twice. Loses no points and I gain none. Either you no longer lose points for quitting or u kno, u can cheat now somehow. O well so much for ranked now
 

Juggs

Lose without excuses
Lead Moderator
UMK3 - ABSOLUTELY FRIGGIN UNPLAYABLE. UMK3 has way to many "to the frame" moments to be playable. You can't block on time, you can't punish on time... NOTHING WORKS PROPERLY... the simple fact is, UMK3 is too fast and the speed of the game is not conducive to online play. There is NOTHING fun about UMK3 online. You guys will NEVER see me online with this game...EVER. SMH, this game just sucks online...
Yeah I don't really understand the problem. It's not traditional delay like I'm used to. It's like delay + input drops + something else. I've also noticed something strange regarding walking. It seems like if I go forwards or backwards, my character will go like 2 frames longer then what he's supposed to. Again, this could be due to my controller that is broken.

But regardless, I'm hardly even playing this because the connection isn't any better than 2006 UMK3 and certainly not better than MAME. Noticing delay and input drops in MK1 and MK2, games I have nearly zero experience in... is not a good look.
 

NoDoubt

nasty
Played Itz x Yoshi again and 3rd time i got robbed points lol. Yea u can avoid losing points if u quit at a certain time. Or freeze/disconnect something.


As far as the online play, I feel like the good connections play super smooth. Equal if not better than Mame and virtually lagless. All else though with so-so connections, or bad ones have inconsistent delay and that only seems natural.

regardless, the dropped inputs deff suck. The major plus here is if someone has a good connection overseas (europe, *venezuela*), it still plays as good if not better than players from the US. Thats real cool and something iv never experienced before.

On Mame, if your on the west coast or from another country across the ocean, youll never have less than 9 frame delay. But on here, u can experience a nice set.


The bad probably outweighs the good but oh well. In time maybe some1 will do the classics right.
 

AREZ God of War

The Crazy BeastMaster
Yeah I don't really understand the problem. It's not traditional delay like I'm used to. It's like delay + input drops + something else. I've also noticed something strange regarding walking. It seems like if I go forwards or backwards, my character will go like 2 frames longer then what he's supposed to. Again, this could be due to my controller that is broken.

But regardless, I'm hardly even playing this because the connection isn't any better than 2006 UMK3 and certainly not better than MAME. Noticing delay and input drops in MK1 and MK2, games I have nearly zero experience in... is not a good look.
Soooooo, should we get on NRS more and ask them why they made us buy this game AGAIN when it isn't even better than the previous ports we have already bought from them 6-7 times? I could have had a fuckin cabinet by now w/ all the $$$ i spent on MK games.

Time for another patch, NRS....if you're putting out multiple games, make sure you have multiple staff working on both versions to make the already unhappy fans appeased. I wonder how they can possibly keep doing this. The fact that MKAK is supposed to be "advanced" chronologically, yet it has problems the other ports don't have just goes to show no pride was taken nor time was taken nor fan-consideration was taken into account.

Played Itz x Yoshi again and 3rd time i got robbed points lol. Yea u can avoid losing points if u quit at a certain time. Or freeze/disconnect something.


As far as the online play, I feel like the good connections play super smooth. Equal if not better than Mame and virtually lagless. All else though with so-so connections, or bad ones have inconsistent delay and that only seems natural.

regardless, the dropped inputs deff suck. The major plus here is if someone has a good connection overseas (europe, *venezuela*), it still plays as good if not better than players from the US. Thats real cool and something iv never experienced before.

On Mame, if your on the west coast or from another country across the ocean, youll never have less than 9 frame delay. But on here, u can experience a nice set.


The bad probably outweighs the good but oh well. In time maybe some1 will do the classics right.
Granted it's NRS studio's fault, but why are you concerned with rank and points? We all know the rank/point sytem sucks and always has for ALL games. The Kommunity determines who the top players are, no one else. Just showing UP to Offline Tournaments gives you more credibility than most of these rage-quitters and arm-chair warriors. Placing Top 3 is another story.
 

Juggs

Lose without excuses
Lead Moderator
Soooooo, should we get on NRS more and ask them why they made us buy this game AGAIN when it isn't even better than the previous ports we have already bought from them 6-7 times? I could have had a fuckin cabinet by now w/ all the $$$ i spent on MK games.

Time for another patch, NRS....if you're putting out multiple games, make sure you have multiple staff working on both versions to make the already unhappy fans appeased. I wonder how they can possibly keep doing this. The fact that MKAK is supposed to be "advanced" chronologically, yet it has problems the other ports don't have just goes to show no pride was taken nor time was taken nor fan-consideration was taken into account.
As far as I know, NRS has had little to do with the MKAK.


Granted it's NRS studio's fault, but why are you concerned with rank and points? We all know the rank/point sytem sucks and always has for ALL games. The Kommunity determines who the top players are, no one else. Just showing UP to Offline Tournaments gives you more credibility than most of these rage-quitters and arm-chair warriors. Placing Top 3 is another story.
If you don't get punished in some way for quitting, it encourages the scrubby losers to quit. Also, being top on the leaderboard obviously doesn't mean anything in regards to your skill. But it's just satisfactory working to get the points and being on the leaderboard. Plus the ranking system is actually decent.
 

NoDoubt

nasty
Soooooo, should we get on NRS more and ask them why they made us buy this game AGAIN when it isn't even better than the previous ports we have already bought from them 6-7 times? I could have had a fuckin cabinet by now w/ all the $$$ i spent on MK games.

Time for another patch, NRS....if you're putting out multiple games, make sure you have multiple staff working on both versions to make the already unhappy fans appeased. I wonder how they can possibly keep doing this. The fact that MKAK is supposed to be "advanced" chronologically, yet it has problems the other ports don't have just goes to show no pride was taken nor time was taken nor fan-consideration was taken into account.



Granted it's NRS studio's fault, but why are you concerned with rank and points? We all know the rank/point sytem sucks and always has for ALL games. The Kommunity determines who the top players are, no one else. Just showing UP to Offline Tournaments gives you more credibility than most of these rage-quitters and arm-chair warriors. Placing Top 3 is another story.

Cuz I was tryin 2 show how the patch didnt fix what it supposadely fixed which was making your opponent lose points if they quit out of a match. It works, but theres ways around it now so just confirming that.


Another note is I do feel it plays better than 2006 UMK version on good connections simply cuz this port doesnt have delay "built in" the system like that one does. Offline feels perfect. However, the occasional dropped inputs probably equals this out anyway lol. : /



MAME WINS. again.


Flawless Victory.
 

AREZ God of War

The Crazy BeastMaster
Personally, I could care less about the ranking system and points, just give me identical-to-offline gameplay, 53.5 FPS, and no dropped inputs. Use the fuckin GGPO netcode or something, get this shit right.

It's like a Palsy Victim performing brain-surgery with a Pipe-wrench.....old-ass game re-made so many times, they don't even know which one works anymore LOL Businesses are such a joke nowadays. I never seen so much unprofessionalism in my entire 31 years of life before the past 5 years.
 

AC1984

Kaballin!
I'm kind of happy with the final products...its not the best but I havent played better online mode since I moved to the US.....
 

Br0ken

Noob
You know It really is hard to play high level when there is almost a full sec delay on inputs, Ive noticed this is the case vs everybody. It's very hard to punish anything. Like one guy teleported me and by the time I released block to aahp tp spear, he was on the ground blocking lol. Yea its that bad. Oh well I guess We'll just have to deal with it. I notice people still quit one me in the middle of rounds. But Idk what the effects were. But the main complaint I do have is like I staited the delay, It's terrible, and its the same in all 3 mks, not just umk3.
 

Pig Of The Hut

Day 0 Phenomenal Dr. Fate and Darkseid player
Is there a reason why they just didnt take 2006 umk3 and make it a little better?

that was awesome and nothing imo was really wrong with it
 

AREZ God of War

The Crazy BeastMaster
I'm kind of happy with the final products...its not the best but I havent played better online mode since I moved to the US.....
Mame, P2P, hardwired ethernet, cable internet, nothing running on CPU except Mame.

There is nothing better for online. Nothing at all.

Is there a reason why they just didnt take 2006 umk3 and make it a little better?

that was awesome and nothing imo was really wrong with it
It's not Arcade Perfect. They claimed it was but there were a few small changes, mostly frames that were removed from the final cut to make it run smooth on XBL. This is why Mame is the accepted norm at tourneys.

You know It really is hard to play high level when there is almost a full sec delay on inputs, Ive noticed this is the case vs everybody. It's very hard to punish anything. Like one guy teleported me and by the time I released block to aahp tp spear, he was on the ground blocking lol. Yea its that bad. Oh well I guess We'll just have to deal with it. I notice people still quit one me in the middle of rounds. But Idk what the effects were. But the main complaint I do have is like I staited the delay, It's terrible, and its the same in all 3 mks, not just umk3.
I know alot of people experience this in all versions of the game, but the things is we need to make sure we are ALWAYS doing everything in our power to make the connection as perfect as possible. Hardwired ethernet, nothing else using bandwidth, high speed cable internet, etc. usually everything is great if both or all players follow that suit of cards. You take Juggernaut attempting ggs on mame w/ a wireless laptop and it's simply not going to happen, even with 50 MB. It really takes alot away from great players OR makes average players seem GOD-like, however not everyone is better offline.
 

AC1984

Kaballin!
Mame, P2P, hardwired ethernet, cable internet, nothing running on CPU except Mame.

There is nothing better for online. Nothing at all.
Good PC+Solid connection cost a lot of money. I have a descent laptop but Mame still doesn't run 100% smoothly on it....
 

PND_Mustard

"More stealthful than the night"
Premium Supporter
how does the umk3 on the AK compare to the one that used to be on the marketplace?

really wanna play it again but i only ever saw footage prepatch
 

ChuckFiasco

"I'm the 12th best Sub-Zero player in the world."
Has anyone else had someone ragequit and the player who quit not lose "kombat points"?