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vegeta

vegeta

Saiyan Prince
How are you guys handling Skarlet? I ran into my first irritating match today. Dude kept running away and trying to zone me out. Constantly neutral jumping and parrying too. After a while I couldn't teleport recklessly either. Had some close matches where I was beating him off hard reads since he had crap habits but eventually he'd manage to get free and just walk away again. I don't feel he was that good just that I had a hard time figuring out how to close the gap if we were full screen. I'm using Fire Breather too.
 
vegeta

vegeta

Saiyan Prince
OutworldKeith said:
I don't blame you guys for not knowing the art of lame play AKA Turtling. MK games haven't been turtle friendly in the past.

Once you have the life lead the matchup changes. Baraka can't throw Sparks all day without eating a Teleport, so he have to come to Scorpion.
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I'm aware of lame play and can do so but as I posted above, harder to do when lame play seems to benefit another character better lol. I'm applying my old MK2 playstyle to scorpion at the moment but it's been years since "slow play" in an MK game.
 
The Janitor

The Janitor

Mop Dispensery
I'm having a tough time consistently doing S1 S4 spear after a teleport. The juggle seem low and tight for me. Any tips?

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MikeBreezy92

MikeBreezy92

Wraith
Juggs said:
I’m telling y’all, Misery Blade is a MUST HAVE for Scorpion. Unless you’re playing him strictly reactionary and footsies, you’re gonna get punished on everything you do unless you’re playing bad players. The question is what’s variation move should be used with it? So far, Demon Dash has been the best option for me.
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Tbh I don't think that's a good thing there's only one thing in his loadout that makes him safe.
 
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Juggs

Juggs

Lose without excuses
Lead Moderator
Premium Supporter
MikeBreezy92 said:
Tbh I don't think that's a good think there's only one thing in his loadout that makes him safe.
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It’s not, because that means you HAVE to have Misery Blade which sucks. But I’m saying I personally don’t mind it because I use Misery Blade anyway. Meaning even if base Scorpion had safe stuff, I would still use MB. But I can see how others who don’t like it will not like being forced to use it.
 
Shinigami_PL

Shinigami_PL

Noob
My first post here, please don't eat me alive! :)

Scorpion is just so... barebones (skeletal pun slightly intended)

Love the guy. Love how he looks and how he moves in this game. He has some great animations and the back1,4,1 combo is just pure joy to land on unsuspecting opponents. But since he was (I'm pretty sure) the first character they've designed for 11, his options aren't many. Only 2 specials? Compared to Jade that's ridiculous. And when you compare him to the likes of Jacqui, Liu, Kung Lao and Jax, he's so bland. Being the Ryu of the series doesn't mean you have to be bland.

Wouldn't it be better if he at least had the sword stance (Misery Blade) as part of his default toolkit? That way we'd have the cancels at disposal at every moment and could still use some of his other customizable specials.
 
Cobainevermind87

Cobainevermind87

Mid-match beer sipper
Apologies if this has been covered already, but when doing the f34 krushing blow into spear, when exactly do you input the spear? I've tried inputting it immediately after the f34, I've tried during the cinematic, I've tried as soon as the cinematic finishes. The only way I can consistently get it to come out is by inputting it over and over as fast as I can, hoping I hit the right window. It's worked surprisingly well actually, but I can't stand having to mash and pray. Any help? Thanks.
 
techn9ne

techn9ne

Footsies
Cobainevermind87 said:
Apologies if this has been covered already, but when doing the f34 krushing blow into spear, when exactly do you input the spear? I've tried inputting it immediately after the f34, I've tried during the cinematic, I've tried as soon as the cinematic finishes. The only way I can consistently get it to come out is by inputting it over and over as fast as I can, hoping I hit the right window. It's worked surprisingly well actually, but I can't stand having to mash and pray. Any help? Thanks.
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It's definitely a tricking timing. What I have found that works for me is to input B during the end of the cinematic and F1 as soon as you come out of the cinematic. I had to play around with it to find the sweet spot.
 
Cobainevermind87

Cobainevermind87

Mid-match beer sipper
techn9ne said:
It's definitely a tricking timing. What I have found that works for me is to input B during the end of the cinematic and F1 as soon as you come out of the cinematic. I had to play around with it to find the sweet spot.
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Ahh I see! Thanks!!! Will give it a go when I get home from work
 
OutworldKeith

OutworldKeith

Noob
Shinigami_PL said:
My first post here, please don't eat me alive! :)

Scorpion is just so... barebones (skeletal pun slightly intended)

Love the guy. Love how he looks and how he moves in this game. He has some great animations and the back1,4,1 combo is just pure joy to land on unsuspecting opponents. But since he was (I'm pretty sure) the first character they've designed for 11, his options aren't many. Only 2 specials? Compared to Jade that's ridiculous. And when you compare him to the likes of Jacqui, Liu, Kung Lao and Jax, he's so bland. Being the Ryu of the series doesn't mean you have to be bland.

Wouldn't it be better if he at least had the sword stance (Misery Blade) as part of his default toolkit? That way we'd have the cancels at disposal at every moment and could still use some of his other customizable specials.
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Misery Blade would be great as a default special. Other than Demon Dash his other specials are butt cheeks.
 
Scoot Magee

Scoot Magee

But I didn't want to dash
OutworldKeith said:
Misery Blade would be great as a default special. Other than Demon Dash his other specials are butt cheeks.
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Is his flame breath safe from a max range d4? Also what about the fireball thing he has? Not sure I've seen any data on those moves.
 
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Peckapowa

Peckapowa

Noob
Juggs said:
It’s not, because that means you HAVE to have Misery Blade which sucks. But I’m saying I personally don’t mind it because I use Misery Blade anyway. Meaning even if base Scorpion had safe stuff, I would still use MB. But I can see how others who don’t like it will not like being forced to use it.
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in certain matchups where they can't punish at certain distances is i think you can get away with using the spinny chain move, you just have to space it close to max distance. I think it's a pretty effective neutral tool.

Otherwise i agree, misery blade is pretty much meta and the best option in majority of matchups.
 
DarksydeDash

DarksydeDash

You know me as RisingShieldBro online.
Think I found a bug..

Misery Blade's 3 option (where he hits you with the end of the story), completely passes through Jade.
 
OutworldKeith

OutworldKeith

Noob
Scoot Magee said:
Is his flame breath safe from a max range d4? Also what about the fireball thing he has? Not sure I've seen any data on those moves.
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I’ll test that out.

The fireball sucks. It doesn’t have much utility outside the corner for swag combos lol.

EDIT: AMP Flame Breath might be safe vs a few characters, but the regular version no
 
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OutworldKeith

OutworldKeith

Noob
Been playing with Sin Blade + Misery Blade. Came to the conclusion that Sin Blade is decent. It would be GDLK if it could be performed from a short hop like the Teleport.
PROS:
- Hits Overhead
- Grants a combo
- Good air to air
- Safe on Block w/ good pushback​
CONS:
- Not many setups
- Can't use it from short hop
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I only found 1 midscreen setup from 112. Opponent can roll out or u3.
https://gph.to/2WutqIc
https://gph.to/2CMnYJc
 
Scoot Magee

Scoot Magee

But I didn't want to dash
B2 misery blade seems to be insanely good. I dont know the frames really but it seems like it can set you up for whiff punishes and etc at certain ranges.

Will d1 stuff misery blade cancels from b2xx mb walk back at max range?
 
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