Shinnok's mimicry has a ton of hitstun but has a unique property that ends a combo and allows you to grab your opponent during it's duration. This effect also occurs with jacqui's shotgun restand and tanya's dust.Hey guys, I have a couple questions. If shinnok has you in hitstun from mimicry, why is it that he is able to grab you when other characters are unable to do so when you are in hitstun from their special moves?
Second, is it possible to escape the stolen command grab from f/t, or any of the interactable command grabs on any stage? Because it seems to me that an interactable is almost guaranteed on specific stages, because even if shinnok isn't near one when he uses mimicry he'll almost always be able to push the opponent to one before the opponent is able to move again.
You have a lot of suboptimal stuff here, like every character you steal a standing reset (stun/freeze move) from, after you hit them with it you can do j2xxteleport,j1,312xxMimicry. And some moves like Ermac’s lift or Kotal’s air grab allow you to do a lot more damage. A lot of characters that you just do a combo on you can vortex, like Erron Black you get a meterless b3,f2xxstolen power, run cancelxxf2xxMimicry for an overhead and a 1 bar conversion with f4xxHell Sparks (1 hit), run cancel xx Stolen power,f22xx Mimicry. With Reptile’s ball you can do f4xxHell Sparks (1hit), run cancel xx acid ball (if done right it hits),Njp, f3xxMimicry And B3,f2xxHell Sparks (1hit), run cancel xx acid ball, 112xxMimicry. There is a lot more stuffI made a video with mimicry combos for every character
These are my notes
(s) - starter
f4~db1/bf3/bf1/db2 - 5-17
112/f224/312~db1 - 11-18
112/f224/312~bf1/bf3 - 17-26
112~db2 - 18-24
b3, f224~db1/bf3 - 16-27
#meter#
(s)~db2, mb, dash, njp, f22~bf1/bf3 - 30/40
b3, f22~db2, mb, f, f2~db1 - 24/32
b3, f22~db2, mb, run, 112~db2 - 30/41
-----scorpion
b3, f22~db1, j2, 312~db1 - 29
(s)~db1, j2, 312~db1 - 29
(s)~db2, mb, dash, njp, f2~db1, j2, 312~db1 - 43
c-(s)~db1, njp, j1, f224~db1 - 30
-----subzero
(s)~db1, b, j2, 312~db1 - 27
(s)~db1, b, j2, 112~db2, mb, dash, njp, f2~db1 - 37
c-(s)~db1, njp, j1, f224~db1 - 29
-----kitana
b3, f22~db1, njp, f, 2~db1 - 25
(s)~db1, njp, j1, f22~db1 - 30
(s)~db2, mb, dash, njp, f22~db1, f, 22~db1 - 40
c-(s)~db1, njp, j1, f224~db1 - 33
-----mileena
b3, db1, njp, j1, f22~db1 - 28
(s)~db1, njp, j1, f22~db1 - 33
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f22~db1, f2~db1 - 40
-----kenshi
(s)~db1, d1~db1 - 25
(s)~db1, d1~db2 (1 hit), mb, f, njp, f2~db1 - 35
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f22~db1 - 39
-----takeda
db1, f224~db1 - 27
f2~db1b, f, f224~db1 - 30
-----sonya
b3, f22~db1 - 24
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f22~db1 - 40
-----cassie
b3, f22~db1 - 28
(s)~db1 - 20-31
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f22~db1 - 42
-----jax
b3, f224~db1 - 28
(s)~db1 - 17-28
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f224~db1 - 42
c-(s)~db1d, 112~db1 - 34
-----jacqui
b3, f2~db1, f2~db1 - 21
(s)~db1, f224~db1 - 29
-----kung lao
b3, f22~db1, j1, f22~db1 - 30
(s)~db1, f224~db1 - 30
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f2~db1, f2~db1 - 39
c-(s)~db1, njp, j1, 22~db1 - 35
-----kung jin
b3, f22~db1 - 28
(s)~db1 - 21-28
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f2~db1 - 41
-----kotal
b3, f22~db1, f, 22~db1 - 35
312~db1, njp, f22~db1 - 43
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f22~db1, f2~db1 - 43
c-312~db1, njp, j1, 22~db1 - 47
-----ermac
b3, f22~db1, f, 22~db1 - 26
(s)~db1, j1, f224~db1 - 31
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f2~db1, f2~db1 - 38
-----reptile
b3, f224~db1 - 19
db1, njp, f, 312~db1 - 27
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f224~db1 - 38
-----liu kang
b3, f224~db1 - 25
(s)~db1 - 13-24
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f22~db1 - 39
-----ferra/torr
b3, f22~db1 - 29
db1, db1 - 19
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f22~db1 - 42
-----erron black
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f2~db1 - 38
c-312~db1, njp, j1, 22~db1 - 40
-----dvorah
b3, f22~db1 - 22
(s)~db1 - 13-25
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f22~db1 - 39
-----johnny cage
b3, f224~db1 - 26
(s)~db1 - 14-25
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f22~db1 - 39
-----raiden
b3, f224~db1 - 27
(s)~db1 - 15-26
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f22~db1 - 40
-----kano
b3, f224~db1 - 26
(s)~db1 - 17-28
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f22~db1 - 41
-----quan chi
b3, f224~db1, j2, 312~db1 - 33
(s)~db1, j2, 312~db1 - 31
(s)~db1, j2, 112~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f22~db1 - 42
-----goro
db1
-----jason
b3, f224~db1 - 19
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f224~db1 - 38
-----tanya
b3, f22~db1, d1/f4~db1 - 25/26
(s)~db1, d1/f4~db1 - 24/25
(s)~db1, d2 - 34
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f22~db1, d2 - 44
-----predator
b3, f224~db1 - 19
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f224~db1 - 38
-----tremor
b3, f2~db1u, f22~db1 - 26
(s)~db1u, f224~db1 - 32
(s)~db1d, njp, f224~db1 - 35
(s)~db1d, njp, f22~db2 (3 hits), mb, f, f2~db1 - 42
c-(s)~db1d, njp, j1, 22~db1 - 36
-----alien
b3, f2~db1, f2~db1 - 23
(s)~db1, f224~db1 - 26-36
(s)~db1, f22~db2 (3 hits), mb, f, f2~db1 - 42
c-(s)~db1, njp, j1, f224~db1 - 40
-----bo rai cho
(s)~db1, b, j2, 312~db1 - 35
(s)~db1, b, j2, 112~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f22~db1 - 48
c-(s)~db1, njp, j1, f224~db1 - 36
-----leatherface
b3, f22~db1, f, 312~db1 - 31
(s)~db1, f, 312~db1 - 24-31
(s)~db1, f, 112~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f22~db1 - 43
c-(s)~db1, njp, j1, f224~db1 - 35
-----triborg(sektor)
b3, f224~db1, 2~db1 - 28
(s)~db1, j1, f22~db1 - 30
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f2~db1, 1~db1 - 39
-----triborg(cyrax)
b3, f22~db1, f, njp, j1, f2~db1 - 26
(s)~db1, j2, 312~db1 - 28
(s)~db1, j2, 112~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f22~db1 - 40
c-(s)~db1, njp, j1, f224~db1 - 29
-----triborg(smoke)
(s)~db1, njp, f224~db1 - 29
(s)~db1, njp, f22~db2 (3 hits), mb, run, f2~db1 - 35
c-(s)~db1, njp, j1, f224~db1 - 31
-----triborg(cyber subzero)
(s)~db1, b/f, j2, 312~db1 - 29
(s)~db1, b/f, j2, 112~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f22~db1 - 41
c-(s)~db1, njp, j1, f224~db1 - 31
###xray###
b3, f22~xray - 43/54
(s)~xray - 46/54
Shinnok can vortex with Reptile's force ball in the corner, and he does have some setups to launch mid screen as well. Otherwise good video, i didn't know you could vortex Jaqui.I made a video with mimicry combos for every character
These are my notes
(s) - starter
f4~db1/bf3/bf1/db2 - 5-17
112/f224/312~db1 - 11-18
112/f224/312~bf1/bf3 - 17-26
112~db2 - 18-24
b3, f224~db1/bf3 - 16-27
#meter#
(s)~db2, mb, dash, njp, f22~bf1/bf3 - 30/40
b3, f22~db2, mb, f, f2~db1 - 24/32
b3, f22~db2, mb, run, 112~db2 - 30/41
-----scorpion
b3, f22~db1, j2, 312~db1 - 29
(s)~db1, j2, 312~db1 - 29
(s)~db2, mb, dash, njp, f2~db1, j2, 312~db1 - 43
c-(s)~db1, njp, j1, f224~db1 - 30
-----subzero
(s)~db1, b, j2, 312~db1 - 27
(s)~db1, b, j2, 112~db2, mb, dash, njp, f2~db1 - 37
c-(s)~db1, njp, j1, f224~db1 - 29
-----kitana
b3, f22~db1, njp, f, 2~db1 - 25
(s)~db1, njp, j1, f22~db1 - 30
(s)~db2, mb, dash, njp, f22~db1, f, 22~db1 - 40
c-(s)~db1, njp, j1, f224~db1 - 33
-----mileena
b3, db1, njp, j1, f22~db1 - 28
(s)~db1, njp, j1, f22~db1 - 33
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f22~db1, f2~db1 - 40
-----kenshi
(s)~db1, d1~db1 - 25
(s)~db1, d1~db2 (1 hit), mb, f, njp, f2~db1 - 35
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f22~db1 - 39
-----takeda
db1, f224~db1 - 27
f2~db1b, f, f224~db1 - 30
-----sonya
b3, f22~db1 - 24
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f22~db1 - 40
-----cassie
b3, f22~db1 - 28
(s)~db1 - 20-31
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f22~db1 - 42
-----jax
b3, f224~db1 - 28
(s)~db1 - 17-28
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f224~db1 - 42
c-(s)~db1d, 112~db1 - 34
-----jacqui
b3, f2~db1, f2~db1 - 21
(s)~db1, f224~db1 - 29
-----kung lao
b3, f22~db1, j1, f22~db1 - 30
(s)~db1, f224~db1 - 30
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f2~db1, f2~db1 - 39
c-(s)~db1, njp, j1, 22~db1 - 35
-----kung jin
b3, f22~db1 - 28
(s)~db1 - 21-28
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f2~db1 - 41
-----kotal
b3, f22~db1, f, 22~db1 - 35
312~db1, njp, f22~db1 - 43
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f22~db1, f2~db1 - 43
c-312~db1, njp, j1, 22~db1 - 47
-----ermac
b3, f22~db1, f, 22~db1 - 26
(s)~db1, j1, f224~db1 - 31
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f2~db1, f2~db1 - 38
-----reptile
b3, f224~db1 - 19
db1, njp, f, 312~db1 - 27
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f224~db1 - 38
-----liu kang
b3, f224~db1 - 25
(s)~db1 - 13-24
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f22~db1 - 39
-----ferra/torr
b3, f22~db1 - 29
db1, db1 - 19
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f22~db1 - 42
-----erron black
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f2~db1 - 38
c-312~db1, njp, j1, 22~db1 - 40
-----dvorah
b3, f22~db1 - 22
(s)~db1 - 13-25
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f22~db1 - 39
-----johnny cage
b3, f224~db1 - 26
(s)~db1 - 14-25
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f22~db1 - 39
-----raiden
b3, f224~db1 - 27
(s)~db1 - 15-26
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f22~db1 - 40
-----kano
b3, f224~db1 - 26
(s)~db1 - 17-28
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f22~db1 - 41
-----quan chi
b3, f224~db1, j2, 312~db1 - 33
(s)~db1, j2, 312~db1 - 31
(s)~db1, j2, 112~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f22~db1 - 42
-----goro
db1
-----jason
b3, f224~db1 - 19
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f224~db1 - 38
-----tanya
b3, f22~db1, d1/f4~db1 - 25/26
(s)~db1, d1/f4~db1 - 24/25
(s)~db1, d2 - 34
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f22~db1, d2 - 44
-----predator
b3, f224~db1 - 19
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f224~db1 - 38
-----tremor
b3, f2~db1u, f22~db1 - 26
(s)~db1u, f224~db1 - 32
(s)~db1d, njp, f224~db1 - 35
(s)~db1d, njp, f22~db2 (3 hits), mb, f, f2~db1 - 42
c-(s)~db1d, njp, j1, 22~db1 - 36
-----alien
b3, f2~db1, f2~db1 - 23
(s)~db1, f224~db1 - 26-36
(s)~db1, f22~db2 (3 hits), mb, f, f2~db1 - 42
c-(s)~db1, njp, j1, f224~db1 - 40
-----bo rai cho
(s)~db1, b, j2, 312~db1 - 35
(s)~db1, b, j2, 112~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f22~db1 - 48
c-(s)~db1, njp, j1, f224~db1 - 36
-----leatherface
b3, f22~db1, f, 312~db1 - 31
(s)~db1, f, 312~db1 - 24-31
(s)~db1, f, 112~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f22~db1 - 43
c-(s)~db1, njp, j1, f224~db1 - 35
-----triborg(sektor)
b3, f224~db1, 2~db1 - 28
(s)~db1, j1, f22~db1 - 30
(s)~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f2~db1, 1~db1 - 39
-----triborg(cyrax)
b3, f22~db1, f, njp, j1, f2~db1 - 26
(s)~db1, j2, 312~db1 - 28
(s)~db1, j2, 112~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f22~db1 - 40
c-(s)~db1, njp, j1, f224~db1 - 29
-----triborg(smoke)
(s)~db1, njp, f224~db1 - 29
(s)~db1, njp, f22~db2 (3 hits), mb, run, f2~db1 - 35
c-(s)~db1, njp, j1, f224~db1 - 31
-----triborg(cyber subzero)
(s)~db1, b/f, j2, 312~db1 - 29
(s)~db1, b/f, j2, 112~db2 (3 hits), mb, dash, njp, f22~db1 - 41
c-(s)~db1, njp, j1, f224~db1 - 31
###xray###
b3, f22~xray - 43/54
(s)~xray - 46/54
I have already mentioned everything you said here in the posts above yours, as well as other optimization suggestions, and Impostor can vortex Reptile midscreen as well) and Erron Black, Takeda can be vortexed in the corner, Smoke gets vortexed, and in the corner both Smoke and Sub (both normal and cyber) get vortexed meterlessly.Shinnok can vortex with Reptile's force ball in the corner, and he does have some setups to launch mid screen as well. Otherwise good video, i didn't know you could vortex Jaqui.
Also j2xxTP j1 is a combo, good against Scorpion and Quan!
Uh right, I forgot about Erron Black, but yeah him too. What about Takeda and midscreen Reptile, could you tell me how?I have already mentioned everything you said here in the posts above yours, as well as other optimization suggestions, and Impostor can vortex Reptile midscreen as well) and Erron Black, Takeda can be vortexed in the corner, Smoke gets vortexed, and in the corner both Smoke and Sub (both normal and cyber) get vortexed meterlessly.
Reptile I have already mentionedUh right, I forgot about Erron Black, but yeah him too. What about Takeda and midscreen Reptile, could you tell me how?
Takeda is very tricky to hit them with the spin, but basically in the corner you do f4xxhell Sparks (1 hit) mb, Takeda's close spin (it will sometimes juggle the opponent out of the corner) f22xxmimicry ( if opponent's out of the corner) OR 112xxMimicry ( if the spin left them in the corner)....like Erron Black you get a meterless b3,f2xxstolen power, run cancelxxf2xxMimicry for an overhead and a 1 bar conversion with f4xxHell Sparks (1 hit), run cancel xx Stolen power,f22xx Mimicry. With Reptile’s ball you can do f4xxHell Sparks (1hit), run cancel xx acid ball (if done right it hits),Njp, f3xxMimicry And B3,f2xxHell Sparks (1hit), run cancel xx acid ball, 112xxMimicry. There is a lot more stuff