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SF’s 30th Anniversary Collection: Will NRS follow suit?

Konqrr

MK11 Kabal = MK9 Kitana
The real question is can they use GGPO? If not, we will get the same shitty netcode.
 

MRIGOTBASS

SKYPE: igotbass
I think the Horse has been beat dead Retire UMK3 for good. Sorry but the players don't deserve it, we got like 5 diffrent ways to play online UMK3 right now, and people flat out refuse to play, come up with tons of excuses LAG GGPO You cant pick 2x Kabals, I let you win, ect. Please NRS or WB either get us some new players or burn the code and never release it again.
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
The real question is can they use GGPO? If not, we will get the same shitty netcode.
I'd imagine if they can manage it with MKX and I2, why not be able to do it for the classic MK's at this point?

I'd love for them to just come out with a new kollection with MK 1-MK 4 (at least) even MK DA if they wanted to but if they just wanted the classics hey I'd be fine with that.
 

Konqrr

MK11 Kabal = MK9 Kitana
I'd imagine if they can manage it with MKX and I2, why not be able to do it for the classic MK's at this point?

I'd love for them to just come out with a new kollection with MK 1-MK 4 (at least) even MK DA if they wanted to but if they just wanted the classics hey I'd be fine with that.
They had to recode a lot of things to make it work in MKX. Do you think they can or will do that for the old games?
 

Roy Arkon

I will leave my seal on you!
Roy...bro...we just...
What? Is it really not that possible? How many years everyone thought they won't improve the netcode for the current games and they did?

Instead of sending these childish posts, you can just explain why it can't work. Also in case you didn't notice, I'm not the only around here who thinks it's possible, just look around guys.

Nice try.
I think the Horse has been beat dead Retire UMK3 for good. Sorry but the players don't deserve it, we got like 5 diffrent ways to play online UMK3 right now, and people flat out refuse to play, come up with tons of excuses LAG GGPO You cant pick 2x Kabals, I let you win, ect. Please NRS or WB either get us some new players or burn the code and never release it again.
And SF games' horse havent beat dead yet? All of those games also got a shit ton of ports over the years. If people want old MK games on next gen systems, they deserve to ask for it.
 
I'd imagine it's entirely possible for them to implement GGPO into the games, but they'd have to probably go the Remake route in order to do so and they probably wouldn't want to invest the time or money for it.
yes i think the same.
also mk4 does not even work on mame properly. there is something with that game that cant be emulated.
 

Roy Arkon

I will leave my seal on you!
yes i think the same.
also mk4 does not even work on mame properly. there is something with that game that cant be emulated.
That is because MK4 was made with a very special chip called Zeus, developed by Midway themselves. Not only that it makes the emulation for MK4 a lot harder, but even the home ports of MK4 back in the day were very hard to be ported because of this. I heard that the only home port of MK4 that was close enough to the arcade version was the N64 one, and even that wasn't that close.
 
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Killphil

A prop on the stage of life.
MK is my favorite series ever but lets be honest most of the old games were decent when they were new and now they aren't that good. Im know im going to get a ton of hate but its the truth. You guys really want to play MK1 & 4 online?

The only classic game i want is a remaster of MK9 which has great online, is rebalanced and the bugs fixed.
I participated in the mk1 tournament at GGA once. My opponent picked Sonya, I picked Subzero. I did ONE slide at him and he threw infinited me til' I died. haha MK4 was pretty alright though, might be a tad clunky by today's standards though so I hear ya.
 

Juggs

Lose without excuses
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MK is my favorite series ever but lets be honest most of the old games were decent when they were new and now they aren't that good. Im know im going to get a ton of hate but its the truth. You guys really want to play MK1 & 4 online?

The only classic game i want is a remaster of MK9 which has great online, is rebalanced and the bugs fixed.
Maybe games like MK1 with Sonya’s infinite. But the other games are still great. And compared to today’s games they’re actually even better. Today games go through millions of patches and still end up broken or imbalanced, so not sure I understand your point.

MK9 isn’t a classic MK game, that’s like saying SF4 is a classic SF game. But MK9 has just as many issues if not more than games like MK2 and UMK3.
 

Roy Arkon

I will leave my seal on you!
They can, but it is VERY unlikely.
I'm staying optimistic on that one.

Maybe games like MK1 with Sonya’s infinite. But the other games are still great. And compared to today’s games they’re actually even better. Today games go through millions of patches and still end up broken or imbalanced, so not sure I understand your point.

MK9 isn’t a classic MK game, that’s like saying SF4 is a classic SF game. But MK9 has just as many issues if not more than games like MK2 and UMK3.
I'm sorry Juggs but I think you're talking this way too far. While iMK2 and UMK3 are excellent games, you can't say that just because MK9 and MKX got many patches and don't have a super-duper perfect balance they are not as good as them. Aside from that fact that there is no perfectly balanced fighting game or a perfectly bug-free game, NRS/WB actually tried their best to balance MK9 and MKX, and MKX is the most balanced MK game to date, and NRS only improve their balance capabilities with each game, from MK9 all the way to IJ2. Not to say that MK2 our UMK3's balance is completely unbearable, as over the years more and more characters have been used in tournaments in order to show every character can win (for example, the 20th anniversary tourney for UMK3 2 years ago had players who use almost the entire roster), or that MK9 or MKX didn't had bugs at some point or the other, MK9 and MKX are still more balanced overall, and MKX being the most balanced, and once MK11 comes out, considering NRS' improvements, is gonna be even more balanced. How is that have so many top 8's with diverse characters in it pretty much every tourney if they aren't balanced?

Don't get me wrong I would love MK2 and UMK3 and even MK1 to come back on next-gem systems, and you're totally right about MK9 not being a classic game, but as for the issues between the games, you're talking this too far I'm afraid. There is no perfectly balanced game or a perfectly bug-free game, but the improvements are obvious.
 
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classic mk games has been heavy requested for fightcade. fightcade is based on ggpo. (in the past ggpo was the name of the app then switched to fightcade)
i remember that a dev from fightcade explained that it is not possible to use mk games with ggpo, its has to do with the roms, i dont remember and my englisch is too bad lol.
i dont know if nrs is able to do it tho.
and sure, nrs did implement ggpo to mkx. but how can u compare an arcade emulation (classic mk) and a modern game (mkx)??
"classic mk for next gen with ggpo netcode" a nice dream and i hope one day it turns reality ;D
im out!
sry for my bad englisch lol
 
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Konqrr

MK11 Kabal = MK9 Kitana
I'm staying optimistic on that one.



I'm sorry Juggs but I think you're talking this way too far. While iMK2 and UMK3 are excellent games, you can't say that just because MK9 and MKX got many patches and don't have a super-duper perfect balance they are not as good as them. Aside from that fact that there is no perfectly balanced fighting game or a perfectly bug-free game, NRS/WB actually tried their best to balance MK9 and MKX, and MKX is the most balanced MK game to date, and NRS only improve their balance capabilities with each game, from MK9 all the way to IJ2. Not to say that MK2 our UMK3's balance is completely unbearable, as over the years more and more characters have been used in tournaments in order to show every character can win (for example, the 20th anniversary tourney for UMK3 2 years ago had players who use almost the entire roster), or that MK9 or MKX didn't had bugs at some point or the other, MK9 and MKX are still more balanced overall, and MKX being the most balanced, and once MK11 comes out, considering NRS' improvements, is gonna be even more balanced. How is that have so many top 8's with diverse characters in it pretty much every tourney if they aren't balanced?

Don't get me wrong I would love MK2 and UMK3 and even MK1 to come back on next-gem systems, and you're totally right about MK9 not being a classic game, but as for the issues between the games, you're talking this too far I'm afraid. There is no perfectly balanced game or a perfectly bug-free game, but the improvements are obvious.
The last MKX patch was really great. Not sure so much about MK9... Didn't fix or address the input bug, or the super low tier of the game.
 

Roy Arkon

I will leave my seal on you!
classic mk games has been heavy requested for fightcade. fightcade is based on ggpo. (in the past ggpo was the name of the app then switched to fightcade)
i remember that a dev from fightcade explained that it is not possible to use mk games with ggpo, its has to do with the roms, i dont remember and my englisch is too bad lol.
i dont know if nrs is able to do it tho.
and sure, nrs did implement ggpo to mkx. but how can u compare an arcade emulation (classic mk) and a modern game (mkx)??
"classic mk for next gen with ggpo netcode" a nice dream and i hope one day it turns reality ;D
im out!
sry for my bad englisch lol
As I said, I'm staying optimistic here.

The last MKX patch was really great. Not sure so much about MK9... Didn't fix or address the input bug, or the super low tier of the game.
That is why I said MKX specifically is the most balanced MK game to date. MK9 had been patches several times too, but there are still balance issues and bugs in the game indeed. MKX got way more support from NRS/WB, and it's now not only completely fixed, but is also the most balanced MK game to date.
 

Juggs

Lose without excuses
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I'm sorry Juggs but I think you're talking this way too far. While iMK2 and UMK3 are excellent games, you can't say that just because MK9 and MKX got many patches and don't have a super-duper perfect balance they are not as good as them.
I never said that. The claim is that the classics aren’t as good as today’s NRS games. My response to that is that while they aren’t by any means perfect, they are just as good competitively and have just many, and in some regards less, problems than today’s games. And when you factor in how today’s games have tons of patches to fix and balance them, that’s pretty impressive how well the classics hold up.

Aside from that fact that there is no perfectly balanced fighting game or a perfectly bug-free game, NRS/WB actually tried their best to balance MK9 and MKX, and MKX is the most balanced MK game to date, and NRS only improve their balance capabilities with each game, from MK9 all the way to IJ2. Not to say that MK2 our UMK3's balance is completely unbearable, as over the years more and more characters have been used in tournaments in order to show every character can win (for example, the 20th anniversary tourney for UMK3 2 years ago had players who use almost the entire roster), or that MK9 or MKX didn't had bugs at some point or the other, MK9 and MKX are still more balanced overall, and MKX being the most balanced, and once MK11 comes out, considering NRS' improvements, is gonna be even more balanced. How is that have so many top 8's with diverse characters in it pretty much every tourney if they aren't balanced?

Don't get me wrong I would love MK2 and UMK3 and even MK1 to come back on next-gem systems, and you're totally right about MK9 not being a classic game, but as for the issues between the games, you're talking this too far I'm afraid. There is no perfectly balanced game or a perfectly bug-free game, but the improvements are obvious.
Never even hinted at the fact that the classics are perfectly balanced or bug free, in fact that’s my point. No game is bug free, no game is perfectly balanced. My problem is when people shit on classics saying they’re broken or imbalanced, while holding the new games on a pedestal and claim they also don’t have the same issues.

Sure, certain classics have completely broken characters like MK1’s Sonya and MKT’s Noob Saibot (and the PS versions playable boss characters) but you can easily ban these characters in tournaments. And for online, you can use the system HDR used with Akuma. The default was he wasn’t allowed to be picked, but you could search with him allowed. I think in ranked he was straight up banned, can’t remember.

Regardless of all that, them being competitive or broken or whatever else isn’t even really relevant. The majority of people who would buy a classic collection are casual players. These casuals either never got to play these games because they were too young or not even born yet, or they just never played them. And it will be casuals who DID play them growing up and get the collection for nostalgia sake.

And it will also be for the competitive players who just got into competitive fighters with either MK9, MKX, Injustice or Injustice 2. They will get to see where competitive and tournament MK started, specifically with MK2 and UMK3. And finally, obviously for the players who STILL play these games competitively. It will give them way more competition, a waay more convenient way to play, and hopefully a way better netcode.