Briggs8417
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If zoning is something you struggle with, Manta has nothing to do with that shit. He completely stops fireballs as a thing...in most MU's anyway. He's a fun character too.
Yeah it means overhead, Yeah I thought the mixup was that he either hits you with an air normal that was an overhead, or he does the stomp that hits you low. Or he can do air normal into stomp, which then is OH to low. Like I said, I don't mucks with it. I uppercut lol.
So he DOES have stomps that hit High and Low !?QUESTION MARK?! That's fuckin' gansterly RETARDLY! But gangster non-theless if i WAS playing as him. Looks like I'm uppercutting the shit outta him everytime OOOOR better yet, see if i can combo a b3 right after. It might run me 2 bars for the conversion, but the damage will be hella worth it!Stomp hits low. Really, the best solution to stomp most of the time is simply to interrupt him before it begins lol (@Briggs8417 has the right idea).
Which characters that aren't Darkseid are you struggling with?
Bladam....Hmmmmm....*thinks*....is that Blue Beatle? Damn im clueless....But you guys are making me feel better alreadyMus are in every game but this game is unique. That's why we see so much counter picking at majors. You need 2 characters that win different mus. I don't know much about Harley, but superman is one of her bad mus right? I picked up bladam for the supes mu and haven't looked back.
For counter zoning I would look at sg, starfire, bladam, and possibly raiden. The first 3 are stupid easy to pick up. Also it depends on which zoning character you face but flash has great anti zoning tools and is currently my favorite to play. So many different combos for different scenarios.
No stomp itself is just a low, you would just have to worries about jumping normal into stomp for overheads. like j3 into stomp would hit OH low.So he DOES have stomps that hit High and Low !?QUESTION MARK?! That's fuckin' gansterly RETARDLY! But gangster non-theless if i WAS playing as him. Looks like I'm uppercutting the shit outta him everytime OOOOR better yet, see if i can combo a b3 right after. It might run me 2 bars for the conversion, but the damage will be hella worth it!
Bladam....Hmmmmm....*thinks*....is that Blue Beatle? Damn im clueless....But you guys are making me feel better already
OOOOOOOOOO! WTF!? REALLY!? So blocking high is all bad against air stomps, unless he jump attacks FIRST then convert into the stomp as a mixup? WOW! I think I'm starting to understand nowNo stomp itself is just a low, you would just have to worries about jumping normal into stomp for overheads. like j3 into stomp would hit OH low.
Yup, that's how it works.OOOOOOOOOO! WTF!? REALLY!? So blocking high is all bad against air stomps, unless he jump attacks FIRST then convert into the stomp as a mixup? WOW! I think I'm starting to understand now
Lol my b, black AdamSo he DOES have stomps that hit High and Low !?QUESTION MARK?! That's fuckin' gansterly RETARDLY! But gangster non-theless if i WAS playing as him. Looks like I'm uppercutting the shit outta him everytime OOOOR better yet, see if i can combo a b3 right after. It might run me 2 bars for the conversion, but the damage will be hella worth it!
Bladam....Hmmmmm....*thinks*....is that Blue Beatle? Damn im clueless....But you guys are making me feel better already
Noted and NOTEDLol my b, black Adam
@EntropicByDesign You are absolutely right...Thank you for that. I will train harder Be my sensei!?
Noted and NOTED
How Ironic I actually did learn something from you. It was only common knowledge of an opponent, but i didn't know that. You are a better asset than what you think you're, sirNo one, and I mean NO ONE should learn from me. I am the worst player on this forum and I'm not saying that ironically, I'm not kidding, or being modest, or fishing for ego boosts.. I am legit the worst player here. But I have an enormous capacity to retain shit I read/see, so I tend to be reasonably knowledgeable, and despite my inability to *play* the game, I understand it (or consider myself to understand it anyway) on a decent enough level to feel confident enough to give certain kinds of mild advice.. but god help me, if I ever tried to teach someone. It'd be like a guy that was born without arms trying to teach someone to clap.
True....maybe that's why im having a character crisis is because although, i do love Harley, she does get boring especially when ya LOSE time after time. But hey, thats the name of the game.Harley has a lot of bad matchups it's true but none of them are unwinnable... except aquaman but he's rare now anyway. it feels so good when you beat that supergirl, Superman, or Green Arrow in ranked. so satisfying. If you need pointers on those I can give you some, and maybe I'll stop ducking you for real life and get you some games lol.
also to supplement Harley I use Starfire. She just gets real boring real fast.
I’ve just picked up Dr Fate and having hella fun, he’s got awesome depth. Love the dialogue in his intros too, which now that I think about it is important to me when choosing a character. Hour 0 main was darkseid, but came to main brainiac instead. Some awesome burns dished out in their intros. Oopsies, bit of a tangent....True....maybe that's why im having a character crisis is because although, i do love Harley, she does get boring especially when ya LOSE time after time. But hey, thats the name of the game.
I shall give Starfire another shot because she is a good counter pick. However, i really liked playing as Dr Fate. I guess I shall go with my gut instinct.
BTW and YES we need a damn practice session Mista Snack Attack! You seem hella fun to play against
Fate is definitely one im going to pick back on today! Im actually fired up now! SHIIIIT!I’ve just picked up Dr Fate and having hella fun, he’s got awesome depth. Love the dialogue in his intros too, which now that I think about it is important to me when choosing a character. Hour 0 main was darkseid, but came to main brainiac instead. Some awesome burns dished out in their intros. Oopsies, bit of a tangent....
TLDR Fate would be a good choice if you like his style. Pretty decent at entry level (zone + f2db2 baby ) but also enough depth to keep you learning and overcoming those weaker matchups. I feel like he’s 5/5 with both both darkseid and supergirl (think those were the 2 you mentioned), not sure what consensus is. He struggles against dead shot though.
Nice!! I’d be happy to try and help, caveats though; I’m trash, I’m EU, no mic right now...Fate is definitely one im going to pick back on today! Im actually fired up now! SHIIIIT!
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EDIT I really want to upload my footage to get some critiques. Is there any way i can do on this forum from my PS4 ?Question mark?
Although Fate is fun....i got my ass kicked lol Ok....WHAT HAD HAPPENED WAS....I mostly played against Blue Beatle which I rarely play at all so he had the flight advantage on me shooting projectiles.Nice!! I’d be happy to try and help, caveats though; I’m trash, I’m EU, no mic right now...
Initial advice; hit the lab for basics (moves, combos, punishes, cancel properties, frames etc), make sure your anti-airs are on point, people love to jump at Fate (at first...), but at certain ranges b2 is pretty much a guaranteed free combo, learn these ranges (it works against darkseid’s teleport if no parademon).
Also, don’t be antsy... against plenty of the cast Fate is happy at full screen. Don’t hang yourself by rushing in when you don’t have to. I tend to go ham when I have a life-lead and plenty of resources, probably shouldn’t though....
Every Fate seems to have their own strategy. I’m working on my own right now, but I’d definitely recommend watching some omgxbdon footage.
Go forth, lord of order!
Join in on the Grindstone thread! A lot of us are in the same boat of trying to learn and looking for matches to learn from. https://testyourmight.com/threads/the-grindstone-training-network-find-training-partners-lvl-up-git-gud-beta.65759/ ... special props to @EntropicByDesign for putting it together.Y'all need to add me por favor! PSN - JBeezYBabY1