Catwoman General Discussion. "The Claws Are Out!"

[Lex Luthor II]

Yeah after having played a lot of catwoman the staggers aren't as good as I initially thought. The os isn't end all be all though. If people are mashing d1 during your staggers you can blow them up with armor or just block and be at frame advantage to continue pressure
Edit: also I absolutely love shimmying people it feels so satisfying

I see "shimmying" all the time used here, wtf is shimmying with catwomam?

 

[masherofbuttons]

I see "shimmying" all the time used here, wtf is shimmying with catwomam?

Where you walk back after doing a move to whiff punish someone trying to counterpoke. So imagine catwoman doing 1f2 and walking back, the opponent tries to poke but since you're out of their range the poke whiffs and you get a full combo punish

 

[Rey]

https://www.reddit.com/r/StreetFighter/comments/482v8f/how_to_do_the_shimmy/

 

[@MylesWright_]

2D2, Throw, 33

Don't like this. It's hella outdated lol

She's +12 after D1

1F2 jails, 2D2 does not jail but catches some backdashes so it's a 50/50 for them. If they have a far backdash and are trying to backdash OS through the situation you can chase them with F1

Outside of that your +12, do what you want. Some people don't even bother going for the 'mix', they do 112 straight whip to build meter

 

[chores]

can someone explain the corpose hop @ 6:20 ?

 

[Kooron Nation]

Don't like this. It's hella outdated lol

She's +12 after D1

1F2 jails, 2D2 does not jail but catches some backdashes so it's a 50/50 for them. If they have a far backdash and are trying to backdash OS through the situation you can chase them with F1

Outside of that your +12, do what you want. Some people don't even bother going for the 'mix', they do 112 straight whip to build meter

This is incorrect, 1f2 and 112 are high starters so if the opponent pokes back it will get stuffed.
33 is guaranteed since it's 10 frame start up mid.
Walking back a bit and doing b2 can catch people trying to poke back or pressing buttons a lot.
Also d1xxCatstance 1 is good

 

[@MylesWright_]

This is incorrect, 1f2 and 112 are high starters so if the opponent pokes back it will get stuffed.

You are mistiming it

 

[Kooron Nation]

You are mistiming it

Go record CatWoman doing d1, then 1f2 or 112, and try yourself to either d1 or d2 after you get hit by the d1.
It's not legit

 

[@MylesWright_]

Go record CatWoman doing d1, then 1f2 or 112, and try yourself to either d1 or d2 after you get hit by the d1.
It's not legit

 

[Phr4nk]

@chores Catwoman can corpse hop after a MB Cat Dash. There's another thread explaining how to do it. In this case, Semiij did the MB Cat Dash in a combo, and ended with 1f2. After that he did a 2d23, which hopped over the opponent. You can accomplish this without the rest of the combo in practice mode. Just go to the corner, MB dash into 1f2, and then hit 2d23 and you'll step over the opponent and into the corner. The 2d23 isn't required for the corpse hop (you can do that with a normal dash) but that's what happened in the vid.

 

[masherofbuttons]

This one is kinda obvious but I haven't seen it posted so here it is anyways:
If you hit 12b3 high enough in the corner you can dash up and neutral jump. It crosses up if you do Nj3 and hits same side if you do nj1

 

[Kooron Nation]

This one is kinda obvious but I haven't seen it posted so here it is anyways:
If you hit 12b3 high enough in the corner you can dash up and neutral jump. It crosses up if you do Nj3 and hits same side if you do nj1

Damn this is dirty, is hitting the 12b3 high enough consistent, or pretty strict?

 

[masherofbuttons]

Damn this is dirty, is hitting the 12b3 high enough consistent, or pretty strict?

After some practice I'm getting it consistently, if you use b12u3 after d2 it's easily doable. You can also do f23u1 for more damage but that makes it a tough ass link

 

[EMPRESS_SunFire]

So...

- J2 has a higher hitbox now.
- B3 has more whiff recovery and a higher hurtbox on recovery, it also has less pushback on block.
- Trait now is not invincible on wake-up at all.
- Damage nerf off MB catdash and all her whip attacks.
- MB catdash now has no armor at all.

I like these changes, I think she will remail solid but now she's not gonna be wreckless and will have to think more, I love the way they changed her honestly. Can't wait to test her.

 

[@MylesWright_]

Just makes the character a bit more skillful. Core game plan is still very much intact

 

[HanSolo]

No time to lick our wounds boys.

 

[ImperatrixSindel]

Fair changes imo. I think she'll still be very good.

 

[Kooron Nation]

They said no mention of adjusting the hurtbox of her b3 during the start up, meaning it will still low profile a lot of shit........

 

[Thingy]

Was just watching today's online Pro Series stream, and chat thinks Catwoman will still be broken after the patch. She got a nerfed b3, nerfed damage, nerfed MB catdash, and a nerfed j2....yeah, she will be good, but she will not be a God. She will be lucky to still be top 10 or top 15.

 

[Dogeofthesea]

I start to think WoWo is a bad matchup

 

[EMPRESS_SunFire]

Was just watching today's online Pro Series stream, and chat thinks Catwoman will still be broken after the patch. She got a nerfed b3, nerfed damage, nerfed MB catdash, and a nerfed j2....yeah, she will be good, but she will not be a God. She will be lucky to still be top 10 or top 15.

She will be completely fine, I do expect her to be top 10 still at thevery least.

 

[HanSolo]

Sunfire. Stop.


Please.

 

[EMPRESS_SunFire]

Sunfire. Stop.


Please.

Hm? Her damage will stil be high, specially if they didn't change the scaling off meterless launchers.
She still has mix-ups, amazing range, amazing walkspeed, J2 will still be a treat in the mid range, B3 will still low profile, low whip, corner carry, a fully invincibke wake-up.

I mean... She is pretty much the same but she has to think more and zoners can actually zone her now since they won't be scared of MB catdash anymore. However, she will still do well against zoners since her walkspeed alone is all she needs to get in mid range, where she becomes a treat with B3, J2, F1.

She will definitely not be wreckless but she is gonna be fine. I'm actually surprised some people even consider the J2 and B3 changes a nerf, those were fixes IMO. And I find it funny how people say she willbe lucky to be top 15 after this lol. C'mon she is a great character!

 

[Thingy]

Hm? Her damage will stil be high, specially if they didn't change the scaling off meterless launchers.
She still has mix-ups, amazing range, amazing walkspeed, J2 will still be a treat in the mid range, B3 will still low profile, low whip, corner carry, a fully invincibke wake-up.

I mean... She is pretty much the same but she has to think more and zoners can actually zone her now since they won't be scared of MB catdash anymore. However, she will still do well against zoners since her walkspeed alone is all she needs to get in mid range, where she becomes a treat with B3, J2, F1.

She will definitely not be wreckless but she is gonna be fine. I'm actually surprised some people even consider the J2 and B3 changes a nerf, those were fixes IMO. And I find it funny how people say she willbe lucky to be top 15 after this lol. C'mon she is a great character!

We can not really say that she will still be a "great" character, as we do not know the extent of her damage nerfs/increased scaling and frame data changes(as they said they would not go into changes to frame data numbers on stream, but will reveal them with the patch notes). There will still be surprise changes once the notes come out.

From what was actually revealed, she got hit hard. Of course it was expected and she needed the nerfs, but the fact remains that she will be a lot worse, and we still so not know everything about this patch.

Lets not dismiss the possibility that she could fall into mid tier hell just yet. I am certainly not dismissing she could still be top 10, I simply said she would be lucky to still be top 10 or even top 15.

 

[Kooron Nation]

She will still be the same just removal of the bullshit, solid character and easily top 10.
Who even knows how much damage she'll get nerfed, I think her corner combos from catstance 1 will still be big damage, and assuming she doesn't get frame adjustments, she'll still be mostly plus with 2d2, catstance 1, 1f2, mb trait.

Her b3 still low profiles on start up and tbh her J2 pretty much looked exactly the same I'd barely call that a nerf lol, it was hitting Attrocitus pretty high in the jump arc still.

@Dogeofthesea I agree, I have troubles with WW.