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Hammer to Clone Gimmick

G11OST

Noob
AIR HAMMER TO CLONE CORNER SET UPS
videos are in the spoilers
I came across this on accident one night, immediately tried to replicate it and it was fairly easy to do. I've been exploring and dissecting ever since. Bad news seems that it is character specific, but even on the characters that this doesn't wreck you can still achieve a clone of the original set up, not as good as the real thing but at least its something if u want it.

Here's the deal, ending combos with air hammer allows you to clone right next to your opponents grill. Pretty simple. The character specific means that if all the air hammer beauty doesn't work then you need to meter burn the air hammer achieving a shadow of the original set up.

Imma have 2 list, the first one the tech so far seems like it could get really dirty

The second one... makes me sad.

HAMMER TIME
  • subzero
  • superman
  • hopefuly the rest of the roster
LACE ME WITH THAT METER BURN
  • attrocitous
  • batman
  • salty
I'm just one man, i'll add con's and pro's as I find them. Your welcome to rip this tech into pieces or polish it up, I could care less. I'll add everything that relates to the OP.​






 
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G11OST

Noob
f3 combos with the j2 air hammer ender also work
I should've included some combos in the video, but either way, you guys have fun dissecting it
 

1man3letters

Alpha Tarkatan - Moderator
Moderator
If your doing setups from a non hkd, you should really test/show tech rolls. Really basic thing and getting fed up seeing so many vids in this sub forum where people don't bother to check/test. Example 113 enders give a really close placed klone but if they tech roll the Kline never appears
 

G11OST

Noob
If your doing setups from a non hkd, you should really test/show tech rolls. Really basic thing and getting fed up seeing so many vids in this sub forum where people don't bother to check/test. Example 113 enders give a really close placed klone but if they tech roll the Kline never appears
Chill out, it was late when I came across this and was tiered, damn

Tech roll yourself back a little bruh
 

G11OST

Noob
I play sub, I'm always chill, BRAH. Don't be offended, trying to help ya out here, not "give out"
Ok
i agree I should've checked rolls, wakeups, blocking and all that but I actually came across this by accident and wanted to see if I could replicate it before going to bed. Which I was able to do, found it pretty bad ass that you could dash up and clone, with accomplishing that I slept beautifully.

I'm still happy I did, it shows that there are certain properties that happen which will cause the opponents hurttbox be invisible or something allowing you to dash up and clone right by their damn teeth without interupting the clone.

Once I get home I'll hit the lab hard, I promise.

I thought you were just trying stab me u know, u being a baraka main and all lol
 

G11OST

Noob
update op again, actually redid the whole thing, added another video as well
found some negatives too, seems this is character specific
ill keep at it guys
 

1man3letters

Alpha Tarkatan - Moderator
Moderator
found some negatives too, seems this is character specific
ill keep at it guys
Character specific? How so? I know few of the 111/113 or j2-hammer/j2b1 knock into setups was using before didn't work on small hitbox chars
 

G11OST

Noob
Character specific? How so? I know few of the 111/113 or j2-hammer/j2b1 knock into setups was using before didn't work on small hitbox chars
Some larger hit box chars can block the clone, if they roll or just try to mash they still get caught
If I mb the hammer clone will still come out it it's a lol further away

Also, imma change the title to hammer to clone gimmick, the more I mess with this the more flaws I see. Still if u can get it going correctly it's pretty satisfying
 

G11OST

Noob
I can't seem to get supes close enough after knock down from hammer he falls before the clone when I try 113 string
It's all about where u land the hammer.
This is more of a gimmick, I'll add more notes at a later time and try to find the correct timing for u.
 
It's all about where u land the hammer.
This is more of a gimmick, I'll add more notes at a later time and try to find the correct timing for u.
Thank you I mean sometimes he gets frozen on regular wake up but only if I do hammer on a cross up attempt