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Injustice 2: Tierlist/Character Match Ups

br8kz

YouTuber
I'm trying to improve my game play and take it to the next level and for that I figured I needed to work on my match up knowledge on a deeper level. Is there any reliable tier list or places where I can see the match up's of certain characters so I can learn from that? I've been to EventHub but I'm not too sure if it's reliable, looks kinda funny to me. I'm basically just looking for a tierlist and the match ups, the reasons why the match ups are a certain way would definitely be useful information as well.
 

OmGxBdON

I'm going to make Fate top ten
tier list-

aquaman, batman, black adam are too good

swamp thing, brainiac, cpt cold are too bad

everyone in between are making buff wishlists even though their characters are fine
tier list-

aquaman, batman, black adam are too good

swamp thing, brainiac, cpt cold are too bad

everyone in between are making buff wishlists even though their characters are fine
Almost entirely agree but cmon catwoman is broke. Possible top 1
 
Imo personal opinion I think Black Adam, Aquaman, And Catwoman have the best match ups and are the three strongest. I'd say batman, deadshot, atrocitus, and superman round out the super tournament viable characters.
i see legit catwomans in tourn footage but i guess batman deals with her well? havent seen her victory pose enough to relate but i believe you
 

freerf245

11 11 11 11
Adam Aquaman Catwoman Batman Superman and Atrocitus are the best

Swamp thing Grodd Captain Cold and Brainiac should be ignored.

Everyone else is good
 

EMPRESS_SunFire

Regina George of discord
The strongest characters right now are Black Adam, Aquaman and Catwoman followed by Batman, Atrocitus, Superman, Deadshot, Darkseid, Scarecrow, Harley, Green Arrow.

The worst are Brainiac, Swamp Thing, Gorilla Grodd, Captain Cold...

Everyone else inbetween is good but some have some small/big weaknesses.

Also for match-up knowledge I would sugest you pick the character you use/like/are interested in and go to the character forum. Every character has a match-up discussion thread where you will get more knowledge on the match-ups.
Except for the Black Adam discussion thread, don't trust that one lul.
 

HanSolo

Noob
Catwoman definitely is top 1. She defeats even Aquaman and Black Adam.
Please.

Some of the best NRS players can't even make top 16 with Catwoman. Foxy dropped her to finally make a top 16 performance. In the first 3 majors Catwoman has made one top 8 appearance. She's good, great even but her being ahead of BA and Aqua is currently the biggest bill in this community.
 

Bruno-NeoSpace

They see me zonin', they hatin'
Please.

Some of the best NRS players can't even make top 16 with Catwoman. Foxy dropped her to finally make a top 16 performance. In the first 3 majors shes made one top 8 appearance. She's good, great even but her being ahead of BA and Aqua is currently the biggest bill in this community.
Needing major top 8 placements to recognise a character's ability is for starters dense, and deliberately not using the power of critical thinking that we've been blessed with.

You remember Cutthroat Kano? Yeah...
 

HanSolo

Noob
Critically think about this friend. Since Saturday this forum has been a battleground over the subject of pros using top tiers to get to the $$$$. Pros play what they need to win. No one is denying CW is a great character, I literally just "recognised" it. But you're trying to tell me there is 0 correlation between top tiers and top 8s? There's a reason half the top 8 pulls out their pocket BA/Aquaman, not Catwoman.

But by all means, go on telling everyone that Catwoman is "Definitely top 1" without any evidence. Yeah, I'm the dense one.
 

RNLDRGN

RONALD ROGAN
Everyone in here is pretty spot on and are arguing on minor details.

Pick Aqua, Black Adam, Bats, Catwoman, Supes, Atrocitus, or hell even Deadshot if you want little-to-no bad MUs.

Pick Swamp Thing or Grodd if you want a serious uphill battle.

Everyone else is decent, some just require more work (Brainiac, Capt Cold, Joker) than others to be really successful.
 

Bruno-NeoSpace

They see me zonin', they hatin'
Critically think about this friend. Since Saturday this forum has been a battleground over the subject of pros using top tiers to get to the $$$$. Pros play what they need to win. No one is denying CW is a great character, I literally just "recognised" it. But you're trying to tell me there is 0 correlation between top tiers and top 8s? There's a reason half the top 8 pulls out their pocket BA/Aquaman, not Catwoman.

But by all means, go on telling everyone that Catwoman is "Definitely top 1" without any evidence. Yeah, I'm the dense one.
What are her bad MUs?
 

kcd117

Noob
semiij won several wotg with catwoman and placed top 8 at evo. He is a great player but she is also a S tier character.
Putting catwoman anywhere below top 3 is downplay tbh. Match-up wise she is probably the best character in the game, I can see black adam, aquaman, batman, superman and atrocitus having more bad matchups than catwoman. She is very dumb imo.
 

Zoidberg747

My blades will find your heart
Critically think about this friend. Since Saturday this forum has been a battleground over the subject of pros using top tiers to get to the $$$$. Pros play what they need to win. No one is denying CW is a great character, I literally just "recognised" it. But you're trying to tell me there is 0 correlation between top tiers and top 8s? There's a reason half the top 8 pulls out their pocket BA/Aquaman, not Catwoman.

But by all means, go on telling everyone that Catwoman is "Definitely top 1" without any evidence. Yeah, I'm the dense one.
Semij just got top 4 with Catwoman at EVO so this point is hella moot. Starcharger and F0xy got 13th as well (not sure if f0xy plays CW still).

When looking at tools its also easy to see why Catwoman is top 3. Her B3 low profiles everything and is very hard to whiff punish. Her damage is among some of the best in the game, with a lot of it being unclashable. She has a fullscreen advancing armored launcher that is pretty much safe on block. She has some of the best air control and footsies in the game. She has a great wakeup with trait(also unclashable). Her pressure is pretty much all safe and her strings have great range. She also most likely has very few bad MUs because of these things.

I also think it is ironic that you criticize others for not giving reasons why she's top 3 and yet give no reasons why she isn't yourself.

Edit: Her being top 3 is not a knock on the players mentioned above. She is still fairly complex and takes a lot of knowledge and fundamentals to win with, which is why most people would rather choose Aqua or Bladam as a secondary. But none of that changes how good she is.
 

EMPRESS_SunFire

Regina George of discord
Catwoman is definitely top 3 because her match up chart is amazing. I can see her being #1 but idk, we will have to wait and see.

Honestly the only one who has made it to the top with just her is Semij, it's still early and that could change specially with Sonic picking her up now.
But my actual question here is... If she is #1 and has the best MU chart why is everyone using pocket Adams and Aquamans instead of Catwoman? I mean, there's no excuse since she is a legacy character and is fairly easy to use
 

HanSolo

Noob
Did you even read what I posted Zoid?

I accounted for Semij's great performance, thus the one top 8 I mentioned. Foxy didn't play CW at Evo, he moved on to deadshot after not being able to get it done with Catwoman at the last 2 majors. And once again, I am not arguing that CW is bad, I'm arguing that she isn't "Definitely top 1" as Bruno and others have stated on this forum as if it's the gospel.
 

kcd117

Noob
Catwoman is definitely top 3 because her match up chart is amazing. I can see her being #1 but idk, we will have to wait and see.

Honestly the only one who has made it to the top with just her is Semij, it's still early and that could change specially with Sonic picking her up now.
But my actual question here is... If she is #1 and has the best MU chart why is everyone using pocket Adams and Aquamans instead of Catwoman? I mean, there's no excuse since she is a legacy character and is fairly easy to use
Even though she is not hard to pick up, I think adam/aqua/supes are characters with an easier gameplan to implement. She is the kinda character that requires a different approach for some matchups, and a bit more knowledge to use effectively, on the other hand, aquaman black adam and superman, the characters I see most people counterpicking with, have basically the same gameplan for every matchup.
Not to knock on superman/aquaman players, but if I had to train an ape at this game, to have a shot at a tournament I would definetly choose to teach him either aqua or supes, and I bet 90% of this site would do the same.
 

kcd117

Noob
Did you even read what I posted Zoid?

I accounted for Semij's great performance, thus the one top 8 I mentioned. Foxy didn't play CW at Evo, he moved on to deadshot after not being able to get it done with Catwoman at the last 2 majors. And once again, I am not arguing that CW is bad, I'm arguing that she isn't "Definitely top 1" as Bruno and others have stated on this forum as if it's the gospel.
Maybe foxy just likes deadshot better. It doesn't mean she is an inferior character or that she ins't able to get it done. Honeybee also plays aquaman but went Flash the whole tournament, does that mean Flash is better than Aqua? hell no
 

Zoidberg747

My blades will find your heart
Catwoman is definitely top 3 because her match up chart is amazing. I can see her being #1 but idk, we will have to wait and see.

Honestly the only one who has made it to the top with just her is Semij, it's still early and that could change specially with Sonic picking her up now.
But my actual question here is... If she is #1 and has the best MU chart why is everyone using pocket Adams and Aquamans instead of Catwoman? I mean, there's no excuse since she is a legacy character and is fairly easy to use
I don't think she's top 1 necessarily, but the answer to your second question is her gameplan is more complex. BA and Aqua are stupid easy to use and very simplistic in their game plan, Catwoman isn't. The reason Catwoman is so good is because she has so many good tools, but you have to be smart in how you use them to win. She also has to approach some matchups differently than others, while Aqua and BA can approach almost any MU in a relatively similar way.
 

HanSolo

Noob
Maybe foxy just likes deadshot better. It doesn't mean she is an inferior character or that she ins't able to get it done. Honeybee also plays aquaman but went Flash the whole tournament, does that mean Flash is better than Aqua? hell no
Wait where did I say she is an inferior character or that she can't get it done? Catwoman absolutely can win a major.

Reading comprehension itt.
 

JTC

ABILITY TO FREEZE
God tier aka 10-0 the whole cast:
-Black Adam
-Aquashit

High tier:
-Catwoman

Low Tier: EVERYONE