b12~full breath MB on doesn't even have enough pushback to avoid some characters' d1's, let alone their footsie strings as a reversal. What are you complaining about here..@CrimsonShadow this. I meant pushback not pushblock
b12~full breath MB on doesn't even have enough pushback to avoid some characters' d1's, let alone their footsie strings as a reversal. What are you complaining about here..@CrimsonShadow this. I meant pushback not pushblock
not saying he is fine but i dont think he is trash but he definitely could be way better, i agree.Iilusions barley beat dragon but props to him he has to work extremely hard to win when he shouldn't have to. Cyborg is not fine don't let that match up fool you the new air nova blast is the MVP of that mu.
it's whatever, really...b12~full breath MB on doesn't even have enough pushback to avoid some characters' d1's, let alone their footsie strings as a reversal. What are you complaining about here..
Superman, not Supergirl... You have to be kidding me.it's whatever, really...
I'm checking those low laser into breath combos you mentioned before in the SG forums and they're nowhere to be seen... care to explain? it's like the 3rd time im asking you this..
You guys keep saying "gapless launcher" as if it's something rare and unusual. Almost every character in the game that isn't a hard-zoner is launching safely out of their footsie string either meterlessly, for a bar, with trait etc. Most of them don't have to pre-commit to spending the bar on block (or get a decent reward if they do).Currently she is far too unsafe, but giving her a gapless safe launcher with her tools, isn't the answer.
They dont understand just give upSuperman, not Supergirl... You have to be kidding me.
You guys keep saying "gapless launcher" as if it's something rare and unusual. Almost every character in the game that isn't a hard-zoner is launching safely out of their footsie string either meterlessly, for a bar, with trait etc. Most of them don't have to pre-commit to spending the bar on block (or get a decent reward if they do).
So what if she's unsafe the chick has tools to work with in all aspects of this game. Brainiac is unsafe in just about everything he throws at you and he doesn't have half of the shit this chick does. She's fine as is imhoThere needs to be a universal ban on 'x character can, so why not y'
When these other characters can teleport and fly and have a 1 button fast projectile then its OK to compare; its tricky to buff this character because she has it all.
Currently she is far too unsafe, but giving her a gapless safe launcher with her tools, isn't the answer.
I did see this video and I like the laser idea but i think b123 should be -5 as standard.
It does matter, because in the case of Supergirl who can run all game, there are characters that will hardly ever touch her.Superman, not Supergirl... You have to be kidding me.
You guys keep saying "gapless launcher" as if it's something rare and unusual. Almost every character in the game that isn't a hard-zoner is launching safely out of their footsie string either meterlessly, for a bar, with trait etc. Most of them don't have to pre-commit to spending the bar on block (or get a decent reward if they do).
They both need buffs. Or the top need to be brought down then re-evaluate.So what if she's unsafe the chick has tools to work with in all aspects of this game. Brainiac is unsafe in just about everything he throws at you and he doesn't have half of the shit this chick does. She's fine as is imho
#BuffBrainiac
Name the characters that are unable to touch SupergirlIt does matter, because in the case of Supergirl who can run all game, there are characters that will hardly ever touch her.
Batman is doing a similar thing right now to some of the cast and it needs addressing.
and you said this:Juggs is asking for b12 ice breath to be gapless so he can turn off his brain and over commit without risks, whilst REO's changes adds a layer of deep into her playstyle, it being "do i want to be safe with mindgames possibilities or do i want to commit and be safe for a bar and launch on hit (with the risk of being poked between the gap)?".
low laser doesn't launch so i don't see the problem with it being a gapless cancel and no, you're not at frame advantage, you're still -2, which is good considering her footsies are pretty good with b12,walkback whiff punish and blah blah.
REO's changes don't take less work lol, it's exactly the opposite, but with a better risk/reward balance and a deeper gameplan.
i don't get your supes comment, completley out of place.. you were referring to what exactly?You are making yourself look more ridiculous the more you post.
You're acting like spemding a bar of meter, which you already need to get 30% damage, to not be punishable on your only footsie tool is the pinnacle of unfairness in Injustice.
Supes's Low laser into breath launches for full combo. Everyone knows this.
Batman can run only in specific match ups and that isnt the only thing that makes him good.It does matter, because in the case of Supergirl who can run all game, there are characters that will hardly ever touch her.
Batman is doing a similar thing right now to some of the cast and it needs addressing.
The thing is I'm not comparing, I just wanted to bring up the fact that a character that doesn't have the tools she has is punishable also. Maybe not full combo punishable depending on char and distant but he can get slap'd.Batman can run only in specific match ups and that isnt the only thing that makes him good.
If NRS shave a little from the so called top tiers do people think that would help a lot of these characters out?They both need buffs. Or the top need to be brought down then re-evaluate.
This is in response to your complaints about spending a bar to make things safe. Supes spends a bar to safely launch from his low. He spends nothing to safely launch from his mids.you were referring to what exactly?
Again, you are talking about the state of the game as of now and I am trying to picture it on the future with suggested changed to Supergirl.Batman can run only in specific match ups and that isnt the only thing that makes him good.
Let's talk about the numerous strong footsie tools which are safe with no bar, launch meterlessly, lead to significantly more damage, do more chip, and/or are staggerable, or even leave you plus for a bar/trait.Supergirl does need buffs, nobody is disputing that but giving her extremely strong footsie string into a launcher which is safe for a bar shouldn't be the only focus as a buff for her.
Like Sinestro pushblock+trait release combos.Wtf is a "pushblocking launcher".
Just because a top 5/7 character has that kind of stuff doesn't mean she needs it. she also have an oh launcher (unsafe) while supes has only f3 so it's basically "just block low" against supes. besides, Supes is a completely different character.This is in response to your complaints about spending a bar to make things safe. Supes spends a bar to safely launch from his low. He spends nothing to safely launch from his mids.
The point, as stated earlier, is that you're trying to postulate this argument that launchers from footsie strings have gaps before them, when almost none of the important footsie tools or launchers from decent characters do.
You are complaining about things the majority of characters are able to do without any fear of reprisal.
Couldn't of said it any better.Just because a top 5/7 character has that kind of stuff doesn't mean she needs it. she also have an oh launcher (unsafe) while supes has only f3 so it's basically "just block low" against supes. besides, Supes is a completely different character.
you're completly glossing over my change suggestions (which are very good, even better than what you guys suggest) just to argue in a very childish and personal way (talking about a few previous posts, not this one in particular). So, may i ask you to read the suggestions i've made and give me your honest opinion without being overly aggressive?
Just because a top 5/7 character has that kind of stuff doesn't mean she needs it.
No, most of the cast has confirmable combo starters from neutral. If you aren't a hard zoner, your main pressure tool likely has a hitconfirm for a bar, for trait, or for free. This isn't "top 5 exclusive material".Couldn't of said it any better.
The moment you try to justify x with y when y is too strong to begin with, you are a lost cause.
I know you dont want me to compare but literally almost every character has one so why cant supergirl. Supergirl is not borderline busted where we need to be super careful with buffs. SuperGirl players ask to be safe on block on something so its not almost a death wish for pressing a button. You say she has all these things she has all these things but what is supergirl suppose to do whiff punish everything because if any of are buttons hit a block we can get punished is that what you call borderline top tier. Not saying she isnt good she is but she is heavily unsafe and has probably the lowest damage in the game. No she doesnt need a damage buff she just needs to be safe. Her thing is she suppose to have good footsies so being able to make your buttons safe allows her to fill that role better.Again, you are talking about the state of the game as of now and I am trying to picture it on the future with suggested changed to Supergirl.
Supergirl mains needs to have in mind that a lot of the top tiers may not be the same be brought down in strength.
Supergirl does need buffs, few are disputing that but giving her extremely strong footsie string into a launcher which is safe for a bar shouldn't be the only focus as a buff for her.
If its the only thing possible to ever get her on a good place then so be it, but I'd rather her have more depth than basically be a 1 string wonder that os difficult to navigate around on defence.
I play Cheetah and WoWo neither of these characters meet this criteria and cant burn a bar to be safe. You go all in and its a full combo punish.No, most of the cast has confirmable combo starters from neutral. If you aren't a hard zoner, your main pressure tool likely has a hitconfirm for a bar, for trait, or for free. This isn't "top 5 exclusive material".
The only characters that tools are absolute rock bottom, like Swamp Thing. You are crying about things that almost every character in the game get free.