This is actually something i've labbed some time ago.
Dragon fire + frames on fbrc were lowered without having delay frames (in previous patches when he used to be +13 not the most recent one when he is +10). The input delay was the same. Also some other cancel characters like jax, marksman, they have almost no delay on their cancels but they still have almost no adv on block. my point is, they can remove the 5 frame delay with having Johnny with the current + frames on block. I think they can do that with tweaking the block stun on every string he has not really sure how they lower + frame adv of cancels though, but it's still applicable to redue + frames on canceled special without increasing delay frames referring to DF, HW, MM cancels example.
https://testyourmight.com/threads/04-10-16-a-list-patch-cancelling-system-clarification.61750/
You can combo a dash cancel after f3,12, and b34. You cannot dash cancel 113 and still combo.
I understand the changes they did for JC cancel. This is not the subject im discussing. Someone said its inevitable to take away + frames without delaying his cancels, which is wrong.
I read the thread before it was great actually lol. I kinda wish NRS took their time on the latest patch. I mean the balance patch was great, but you can see that they weren't really thoughtful with balancing a-list. they could've just lower the block stun on his strings to lower the + adv on block, but they just decided to fuck up the cancels timing instead.Oh I'm so very glad you understand!
I was just casually promoting my thread
After doing that (which was an answer in my post of fisticuffs suggestions), fisticuffs got actually buffed, with the exact same main buff i had been proposing for a year.
Hey buddy thanks a lot.
I mean...
Liu kang??? Surely he does now?
I think Cage loses to Balanced now too. Not by a large margin though.
Cage is basically a pinball for Smoke.
Not played the matchup much, whats so bad about it.
I would also add Cassie, reptile, goro, pyromancer, and sorcerer. (and maybe kano)
Good list.
Cassie I feel is even, Reptile Cage can blow up most his stuff, Goro you can zone out
I said LK haha
Cage can do the job against Balanced (At least Fisticuffs and A-list), he has the (Ghetto ?) pressure and can win the zoning trade. You just have to mix with the high and the low forceball in case the opponent wants to send your projectile back
Which variation do you prefer vs reptile? I think he does a good job of keeping johnny out and making johnny spend meter.
Easily blows up your d4 game with his b2 string which can also punish alist f3(4) stuff in neutral by mixing your inputs, as in he changes sides and you can't rc it. On wakeup you're free, f3 slide goes under sk and if you block it d1 is too slow to retaliate and d3 is not always a good answer due to how minus it is, put his usual shenanigans on wake up on top of that and it's nasty. Your tickthrow stuff is seriously weakened due to smoke away on knockdown, you can bait and f3 I think, but not sure. Smokebombs on block can be f3'd yea, but that is just one tool of Smoke and not a that useful one while it's also quite hard to react (or I'm just slow). I've also seen him smoke through sloppier run cancels and dash cancels.
You think so?
It doesn't jail on non of the small hurt box chars
