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Used to have these bad habits. The more experiwnce you get, the more you learn to fix your bad habits. You just need to have patience most of the time.
Hi tanno, my biggest issue is, I find the hardest normal of sz to kombo off of is b12, is it me, or is it a tight window, I get rushed and when I press back, the butt of my thumb hits the down and back, and the down comes out, or I get the back buttton just fine, but when pressing bd2, the butt of that thumb will also hit the circle button,any advise , or just keep practicing, some days I get it all the time and other days it ishard to get to occur, my release check is off, it is just me getting anxious, any help would be appreciated
 

Tanno

The Fantasy is the Reality of the Mind
Hi tanno, my biggest issue is, I find the hardest normal of sz to kombo off of is b12, is it me, or is it a tight window, I get rushed and when I press back, the butt of my thumb hits the down and back, and the down comes out, or I get the back buttton just fine, but when pressing bd2, the butt of that thumb will also hit the circle button,any advise , or just keep practicing, some days I get it all the time and other days it ishard to get to occur, my release check is off, it is just me getting anxious, any help would be appreciated
Don't be anxious. Sub Zero is a bit slow, so take your time to get used to him. Mind if you could tell us which combo do you have a hard time with? If you mean the new combos I found, you should probably practice first with the basic combos. Those I combos I found are the advanced ones. The more you get used to them, the more you can make them successful. Try the basic combos, like B12xxIB, JIP, 242, RUN, 123xxSlide. Try doing them 10 times. If you make them 10 out of 10, then that means that you have gotten used to them without problems. So be patient.

@Zerodegreez, I think he means the new combos I found a while ago. Check some posts above to see what do I mean. Those combos I found are similar to UB's Aura linking to other stuff there.

The tightest link with B12 is for Unbreakable B12Aura242 or B12AuraB12Ice Ball. You mentioned you played Grandmaster right? So the links aren't very tight they just need smooth clean execution which will come with practice.
He means what I found. Try this combo.

B12xxEX IK, RUN, B12xxIB, JIP, 242, RUN, 123xxSlide/B12xxBurst. 34%. Without the B12xxEX IK, RUN it packs only 30%.

The B12xxEX IK, RUN is like UB's B12xxAura. This covers 3/4 of the whole area, if you want to force your opponent till the corner.

And no, the tightest link for UB is B12xxAura, B12. The other links, except of B2, are a bit easy than B12.
 
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@subzerodegreez and @Tanno, thanks for the reply, not having a problem with kombos per say, I just find b12xxIB and xxIK from my weak side more difficult, from my position on the left I can hit it consistently in practice/fight modes on hard/very hard, with no problem, from my weak side which is being on the right side of the screen, I get a little anxious and rush the cancel, several things occur, I get d2, I get b1xxIB(IK) instead of b12, or b2 and at times I get b12 and also get the 4 button accidentally depressed so as a result the IB and IK do not spawn, I know it from rushing and getting the butt of my thumb to drpress buttons and because on this side i am not a fluent In exciting button pushing, so what iam going to do is be patient and work hard for as long as it takes and just go into practice/hard mode and pratice b12 till it become smooth and natural and when that happens consistently as a punish, I will then gradually add the special as a cancel, that is what I did from the left side and now I nail it all the time, if you guys have any other suggestions let me know, do you guys use a console d pad, such as dual shock for ps4 or a hitbox?


Here are some good female(male also) corner kombos with IK for a mid air freeze, iam sure you outstanding players know this,

B2~d4(when opponent falls to ankle height)xxdb2~njp~jip~bf4 or 123 slide

Substitute the d4 with, b3b(when female falls to knee/shin height) or b1(when female falls to thigh heignt)or f42(when female falls to thigh height)or 2. Very easy and basic for descent damage for females in the corner to give that luscious, mouth watering corner mid air freeze form an IK cancel, but I don't need to tell you guys that
 
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Tanno

The Fantasy is the Reality of the Mind
I see. Now that makes sense. You have a hard time with the right to left side combos. It's like doing them in mirror. Just imagine them as if you're firing an IB from the left to right side. It needs some time to know them, too, off by heart. It's but a matter of time to get used to them.

For MK I use only DS4 controller. For 2D games, like Guilty Gears, I use Mad Catz TE2+. It's only a matter of what you are getting used to with. St9rm and Eddy Wang are using a hitbox, because they got used with it.

I'd suggest you use only the D4 and D1.

D4 creates a distance between you and the opponent. This will help you with creating IK.

D1 is the fastest poke he has, so you'll want to poke your opponent to prevent him taking his turn. You can use this at some corner combos up to 4 times. Pre-patch, it used its limit to 2 times.

The other Ds aren't used much anymore. They're rarely being used.
 
I see. Now that makes sense. You have a hard time with the right to left side combos. It's like doing them in mirror. Just imagine them as if you're firing an IB from the left to right side. It needs some time to know them, too, off by heart. It's but a matter of time to get used to them.

For MK I use only DS4 controller. For 2D games, like Guilty Gears, I use Mad Catz TE2+. It's only a matter of what you are getting used to with. St9rm and Eddy Wang are using a hitbox, because they got used with it.

I'd suggest you use only the D4 and D1.

D4 creates a distance between you and the opponent. This will help you with creating IK.

D1 is the fastest poke he has, so you'll want to poke your opponent to prevent him taking his turn. You can use this at some corner combos up to 4 times. Pre-patch, it used its limit to 2 times.

The other Ds aren't used much anymore. They're rarely being used.
Thanks and will apply your advise, iam new to fighting games, I put off learning b12, just because of the back button, initially it was kind of a physiological deterrent to push a back button to move a character forward, but as I began to understand mkx, and sz, I truly understand that b12 is his most significant basic kombo move, so I learned how to apply it from my strong side FIRST, and now I LOVE IT, using it a lot more than f33, b12 is my go to starter along with 11 and the low b33, once again THANK YOU FOR YOUR MUCH APPRECIATTED AND WELCOMED ADVISE, I WILL practice hard, b12 from my weak side and practice in the same manner that I do from my strong side, and with time become just as efficient.
 

Tanno

The Fantasy is the Reality of the Mind
Thanks and will apply your advise, iam new to fighting games, I put off learning b12, just because of the back button, initially it was kind of a physiological deterrent to push a back button to move a character forward, but as I began to understand mkx, and sz, I truly understand that b12 is his most significant basic kombo move, so I learned how to apply it from my strong side FIRST, and now I LOVE IT, using it a lot more than f33, b12 is my go to starter along with 11 and the low b33, once again THANK YOU FOR YOUR MUCH APPRECIATTED AND WELCOMED ADVISE, I WILL practice hard, b12 from my weak side and practice in the same manner that I do from my strong side, and with time become just as efficient.
Glad I helped. The reason the B12 is quite used is that it's a stagger combo. You can temporary stun them with this. EVERY character has one. Even Raiden has his B14. When you're in corner, you need not only to start off with B12, but, also, with F33, B33, Throw, etc to get them as a mind game to confuse your opponent, while he's jailed in corner thanks to close IK.

Good luck.
 
Glad I helped. The reason the B12 is quite used is that it's a stagger combo. You can temporary stun them with this. EVERY character has one. Even Raiden has his B14. When you're in corner, you need not only to start off with B12, but, also, with F33, B33, Throw, etc to get them as a mind game to confuse your opponent, while he's jailed in corner thanks to close IK.

Good luck.
Very wisely put, I know that b12 is a strong stagger/stun, has good range and create distance after impact and has a good damage percentage, thanks again, talk to you soon
 
All good man. Glad I could help.

I use a PS4 Dpad where it can be harder for me on the right side as well due to the left analog stick being close to the Dpad so I used to move it by accident till I focused on cleaner execution on both sides. You're on the right track it will come with patience and practice.
Thanks for your help
 
@zerodregeez and @Tanno, do you gentlemen suggest playing mkx on a monitor, my tv is at the top of the list with the lowest lag, but a monitor would still have less, I know from frame data, a single frame can mean the difference from having to stay on block, to punishing with only a fast special, to being able to punish with a full special move kombo, what are your thoughts, thanks
 
I don't see how he's derailed the thread. He had a bad habit with B12 seeking some help. Even a monitor can be related to bad habits if you want to split hairs as input lag from a tv can create bad habits in a offline tournament.

But to be safe blue dragon try to post in the Sub-Zero general thread about non habit related questions. There's even a thread on monitors if you do a search.

To answer your question, a monitor will definitely be better. I'd get one if I could but not enough money yet.
Thanks, will take your advise about posting, it was done with no intention of causing havoc, and thanks I will look into a monitor, thanks again, I am coming along with my weak side b12 nicely, soon will cancel it into ib or ik, this will definitely improve my playing skills
 

exisTenz

Noob
My worst habit is playing impatiently when I don't know the MU well...I don't know...I just panic and start jumping and sliding a lot, just generally play like a complete idiot.

Another one is that I will do b12xxice ball against a blocking opponent when I fail to punish them, I know that I should cancel it into db1 instead, I just don't think fast enough.

And @blue dragon, I also used to have problems with some inputs before, I would spend hours in training mode until I finally get them consistently. I'm sure you'll be getting it too, good luck :)
 
My worst habit is playing impatiently when I don't know the MU well...I don't know...I just panic and start jumping and sliding a lot, just generally play like a complete idiot.

Another one is that I will do b12xxice ball against a blocking opponent when I fail to punish them, I know that I should cancel it into db1 instead, I just don't think fast enough.

And @blue dragon, I also used to have problems with some inputs before, I would spend hours in training mode until I finally get them consistently. I'm sure you'll be getting it too, good luck :)
Thanks, I need to practice more from my weak side, it is my fault for not practicing nearly as much from that side
 

Tanno

The Fantasy is the Reality of the Mind
Thanks, I need to practice more from my weak side, it is my fault for not practicing nearly as much from that side
It's not yours fault for that. Almost everyone, including me, have had this problem when they started. I started with Sub Zero, and I had a problem with the mirrored side. I had to train like hell to get used to this mirrored side. You should train on this. If you spot any weaknesses on the progress, then you should fix them via training.

Good luck.

I hope one day to see you in competitions.
 
It's not yours fault for that. Almost everyone, including me, have had this problem when they started. I started with Sub Zero, and I had a problem with the mirrored side. I had to train like hell to get used to this mirrored side. You should train on this. If you spot any weaknesses on the progress, then you should fix them via training.

Good luck.

I hope one day to see you in competitions.
Iam doing exactly what you described, with time my weak side will develop, thanks, thanks to both of you @Tanno and @Zerodegreez
 
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My worst habit is playing impatiently when I don't know the MU well...I don't know...I just panic and start jumping and sliding a lot, just generally play like a complete idiot.

Another one is that I will do b12xxice ball against a blocking opponent when I fail to punish them, I know that I should cancel it into db1 instead, I just don't think fast enough.

And @blue dragon, I also used to have problems with some inputs before, I would spend hours in training mode until I finally get them consistently. I'm sure you'll be getting it too, good luck :)
do you ever practice train with anyone, if you want I fine with it, I am not very good, but been playing for several months and really into this game, and the more I progress the more I am hooked on mkx
 

exisTenz

Noob
I hear that but for me VS Really Solid Players regardless of my match up knowledge. My worst habit is I rush and I have to tell myself to Slow Down. It's actually really hard to control my pace as I tend to be fast but something I'm always working on. Especially when offline players keep telling me to slow down and be patient. I'm determined to overcome this.

My composure VS people at my level or lower is fine but when the player is 100% on point with defense and offense and or aggressive as fuck I rush my inputs insanely to get a hit in or to avoid being hit and one shotted by massive combos or vortexs.

I'd say my number one focus now is having better composure with better players so I can eventually level up. Oh and better fundamentals which have improved but still need to anti air and whiff punish better without the clone.

Oh and with a Blocked B12 I also do Ice Ball every now and then but I find like Tanno does just a D4 is Best after a Blocked B12 to create some space IF they're not blocking low. If not you can risk a clone or burst but even burst can be punished by some characters.

It takes time to get used to option selects but when you get punished enough from a blocked B12 Ice Ball it eventually sinks in ⛄
Thanks for your input, appreciate it :)

I get pretty damn nervous when playing against high-level players too, but the matchup knowledge helps me a lot. Yeah, overly aggressive players give me a lot of trouble...I have no idea what to do sometimes.

I forgot anti airs, that's my weak side too. I really struggle against people who keep jumping over me and can't always anti air them in time.

Oh, I get punished for that ice ball a lot and still do it sometimes, I'm working on it though. And I haven't been doing many clone cancels on mid screen since db1 buff.


do you ever practice train with anyone, if you want I fine with it, I am not very good, but been playing for several months and really into this game, and the more I progress the more I am hooked on mkx
I would love to practice with you, but I'm from EU and this game is region locked...I wish it wasn't. I'm not very good either, but I'm trying to improve by playing vs people who are better than me.
 

Tanno

The Fantasy is the Reality of the Mind
I would love to practice with you, but I'm from EU and this game is region locked...I wish it wasn't. I'm not very good either, but I'm trying to improve by playing vs people who are better than me.
I'm EU, and especially Greece. Hit me up for some training, if you fancy. My PSN is already revealed under my avatar to the left. ;)

I might be a bit rusty, because I didn't play MKX for a while, so I'm like a training doll for you. lol

And you're doing a wise option to play against better player than you, because this way you improve this much.
 

exisTenz

Noob
I'm EU, and especially Greece. Hit me up for some training, if you fancy. My PSN is already revealed under my avatar to the left. ;)

I might be a bit rusty, because I didn't play MKX for a while, so I'm like a training doll for you. lol

And you're doing a wise option to play against better player than you, because this way you improve this much.
Sent you a friend request, I'll be busy until Saturday but then we can play some matches. I'm pretty rusty too, because I had to take a long break from MKX due to a lack of time, so I forgot a lot of matchups. Now I'm getting back into it.
 

Tanno

The Fantasy is the Reality of the Mind
Sent you a friend request, I'll be busy until Saturday but then we can play some matches. I'm pretty rusty too, because I had to take a long break from MKX due to a lack of time, so I forgot a lot of matchups. Now I'm getting back into it.
Anytime you feel like it. I'll be a bit busy here, too.
 
Sent you a friend request, I'll be busy until Saturday but then we can play some matches. I'm pretty rusty too, because I had to take a long break from MKX due to a lack of time, so I forgot a lot of matchups. Now I'm getting back into it.
Hi exis tenz, have fun and learn all you can with tanno
 
Sent you a friend request, I'll be busy until Saturday but then we can play some matches. I'm pretty rusty too, because I had to take a long break from MKX due to a lack of time, so I forgot a lot of matchups. Now I'm getting back into it.
@Tanno and @Zerodegreez, thanks so very much for your advise, i am doing exactly what both of you said, practicing only b12 on the right in hard mode, began to relax and then let the special df2 happen, and with getting comfortable, iam not pressing the down button with the butt of my thumb as I do the b12, thanks guys