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Guide - Grandmaster Living Guide[UPDATED]- How to Deal with Grandmaster by hkriderz

Wigy

There it is...
Reading a lot of these comments and im wondering how jc community are considered the big downplayers.

Subzero in his current state is stupid.
 

Rude

You will serve me in The Netherrealm
Whaaaat?

I have it on good authority by experts that Johnny vs GM is 5-5.

Science.
 

hkriderz

Lin Kuei Scum, yellow robot enthusiast
Reading a lot of these comments and im wondering how jc community are considered the big downplayers.

Subzero in his current state is stupid.
Most of them are just trolling. Pre-patch Quan and johnny players were horrendous downplayers tho lbsh
 

Rude

You will serve me in The Netherrealm
I already sent your d1 comment to Paulo. Incoming Sub buffs boyz :D
Listen, I was assured by a Sub Zero expert that all I need to do is have my d1 ready when I'm behind the ice clone. It will allegedly hit him out of anything he does.

Are you...are you saying he's WRONG???

Blasphemy.
 

Wigy

There it is...
Most of them are just trolling. Pre-patch Quan and johnny players were horrendous downplayers tho lbsh
As a jc player, we were bad as a community the first month or so as then mud sticks. Most of the top dudes have said jc was good from day 1.

Sub community has downplayed and whined about the functionality of their character from day 1
 
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Rolling_Toaster

Praise be to Lord Brady
i've never played a sub who made me salty, cause I understand how he works, and the options he has after he knocks me down and the options I have after being knocked down. If anything sub needs a buff, he is easily C tier in the current meta.
sub is VERY overrated. his corner game isnt even as strong anymore with the new universal armor buff. "wah wahh he gets 40% meterless in the corner" boo hoo dude. doesnt everyone get big damage in the corner in this game? i seriously dont see what the big deal is. his b2 is -13 on block 12 is reactable you can punish his grab if you duck it only safe clone cancel is f4 and its ass on whiff he doesnt have any + on block strings and he doesnt have any good armor anymore. and these arent even all of his problems.

idk about c tier but hes for sure a- now.
 

hkriderz

Lin Kuei Scum, yellow robot enthusiast
As a jc player, we were bad as a community the first month or so as then mud sticks. Most of the top dudes have said jc was good from day 1.

Sub community has downplayed and whined about the functionality of their character from day 1
Well all of the top dudes of the sub community all said sub was really good. Nobody downplayed sub, they wanted him fixed before he was nerfed. The clone was possibly the most dysfunctional moves in the game. Everyone wanted to nerf sub zero while his issues remained because they're complaining scrubs who only see something from their perspective. Now most of his issues have been alleviated and he works.

You guys were still downplaying the dude who turned mkx into single player each touch and called him overrated lol. Cmon bro ;)
 
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Wigy

There it is...
Well all of the top dudes of the sub community all said sub was really good. But the difference is Johnny doesn't get butt-raped when a character has a move that completely ignored his main strategy. Multiple characters at that. Also the clone was possibly the most dysfunctional moves in the game. Everyone wanted to nerf sub zero while his issues remained because they're complaining scrubs who only see something from their perspective. Now most of his issues have been alleviated and he works.

You guys were still downplaying the the dude who turned mkx into single player each touch and called him overrated lol. Quans... I don't even know how they downplayed. Pre patch Quans videos are liable to give you cancer. Cmon bro ;)
At this point everybody had surpreme dirt.

God forbid he has guaranteed chip and ghetto mixups when half the cast had safe 50/50s and just as much chip with low execution.

Sub community has always made out their character as bad because hitbox fuckups and characters with disjointed hitbox's.

JC community from what i saw was just defending the fact he wasnt a top 5 1 touch death machine like he was made out to be.

Johnny has in no patch ever been a clear top 5 contender.

He might have been at some point at the start, but nobody was playing him to his potential so it was never an issue.

He was top 8 in the last patch and because he hadnt been changed much people made out he was always this good and the jc community were crybabies, forgetting all the character changes around him and the fact it took most players months and months to play him close to his potential.

After the dust had settled with the last patch absolutely nobody was downplaying him.

Sub community has perma downplayed.
 

Dankster Morgan

It is better this way
At this point everybody had surpreme dirt.

God forbid he has guaranteed chip and ghetto mixups when half the cast had safe 50/50s and just as much chip with low execution.

Sub community has always made out their character as bad because hitbox fuckups and characters with disjointed hitbox's.

JC community from what i saw was just defending the fact he wasnt a top 5 1 touch death machine like he was made out to be.

Johnny has in no patch ever been a clear top 5 contender.

He might have been at some point at the start, but nobody was playing him to his potential so it was never an issue.

He was top 8 in the last patch and because he hadnt been changed much people made out he was always this good and the jc community were crybabies, forgetting all the character changes around him and the fact it took most players months and months to play him close to his potential.

After the dust had settled with the last patch absolutely nobody was downplaying him.

Sub community has perma downplayed.
Sub community has been pretty bad I agree. But any of us with a brain will tell u that he is definitely top tier now. Imo Sub has been top ten at 3 different points in the game's life(now included, he is top 5 right now).
 

Wigy

There it is...
Sub community has been pretty bad I agree. But any of us with a brain will tell u that he is definitely top tier now. Imo Sub has been top ten at 3 different points in the game's life(now included, he is top 5 right now).
I know but some of the bills being sold here are ridiculous.

B2 100% needs a nerf.
Why did everyones overhead get nerfed to fuck except his. Its alright a nightmare to punish and either carries you half way along the screen the corner or leads to like 40% into a setup which 90% of the cast really struggle against.

His jip needs nerfed.

They made all these universal changes that benefitted him and buffed him, meanwhile forgetting to give him the universal overhead nerf.