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the gap in his f122+4 is the reason i wouldnt use him anymore. the gap canceling into kunai....that hurts lasher more than the other variations too, considering it doesnt have teleport cancels or quick call.
It create a new mindgame If people try to armor and you do low trip u will hit them Lasher is Takeda's best variation now IMO TBH
 

LastKarma

Under The Red Hood
TBH i have been doing hella teleport cancels after f122+4. Just to check the opponent. Also, since you can jump right out of f122+4 ex kunai i have been holding the kunai and ducking to low profile a jump in, then i release the ex kunai, then start pressure. If they read that and dont try to jump, I b2 them for a HTB.
 

Harlequin969

Always press buttons
f122+4 whip trip is a true mixup because whip trip is too fast for reaction while kunai is slow enough to react to. And it being hard to punish makes it a great mixup tool.
 

DOCK

Noob
It create a new mindgame If people try to armor and you do low trip u will hit them Lasher is Takeda's best variation now IMO TBH
with shurai rui u can teleport cancel or bf1 to stop ppl mashing buttons in kunai gap, f122+4bf1 its very hard to punish cuz Takeda have one and half dashes distance
 
with shurai rui u can teleport cancel or bf1 to stop ppl mashing buttons in kunai gap, f122+4bf1 its very hard to punish cuz Takeda have one and half dashes distance
So with the bf1 part, can a person not armour through it? I've not had a chance to check it out in the lab...
 
with shurai rui u can teleport cancel or bf1 to stop ppl mashing buttons in kunai gap, f122+4bf1 its very hard to punish cuz Takeda have one and half dashes distance
bf1 is easier to punish than Lasher whip trip and they both do the same job Tele cancel is negative and doesn t allow u to pressure after I still think Lasher has better options Having tele cancel has less value than having low slash
 
with shurai rui u can teleport cancel or bf1 to stop ppl mashing buttons in kunai gap, f122+4bf1 its very hard to punish cuz Takeda have one and half dashes distance
I've been doing this every now and then against armor happy players to make them think twice or to close out a round
 

Wigy

There it is...
Everyone here seems on suicide watch and i have no idea why.

So what if theres a gap, telecancel bait it, if they armour out you take 12% if you bait and punish it you get 30% meterless.

Running in on him is trickier, if they take a hit with the kunai while running they loose their stamina and you're free to b21 them.

His wakeup game is better, much better. He actually has an option to wakeup versus characters with armour breaks. Boo hoo if ex tele doesnt have armour, it was a gimmick that only caught people randomly.

Didnt loose his htb which is great for characters who dont have two hits of armour. And guess what even if they do, let the kunais go and f1, i used to do it to goro all the time.

Be greatful, he could have been cage and gone from a-list to d-list.
 
Everyone here seems on suicide watch and i have no idea why.

So what if theres a gap, telecancel bait it, if they armour out you take 12% if you bait and punish it you get 30% meterless.

Running in on him is trickier, if they take a hit with the kunai while running they loose their stamina and you're free to b21 them.

His wakeup game is better, much better. He actually has an option to wakeup versus characters with armour breaks. Boo hoo if ex tele doesnt have armour, it was a gimmick that only caught people randomly.

Didnt loose his htb which is great for characters who dont have two hits of armour. And guess what even if they do, let the kunais go and f1, i used to do it to goro all the time.

Be greatful, he could have been cage and gone from a-list to d-list.
IDK where u got all that bleak stuff all we ve been debating about is what is best variation is plus me saying that the Mileena MU is pretty bad
 

Wigy

There it is...
IDK where u got all that bleak stuff all we ve been debating about is what is best variation is plus me saying that the Mileena MU is pretty bad
Read back, i saw at least like 3-4 people saying he got fucked. Maybe just a few retarded outliers but if you're not saying hes crap my comments arent directed at you.
 

gibster13

A fan of fans
sonicfox top 5 includes Takeda

And seeing as he just picked up lasher, is he saying lasher is top 5???

If so how?
 

MrProfDrPepper

NRS, Guilty Gear, and KI, the holy trinity
Like others have been saying the meta changes and the universal nerfs to takeda actually made lasher better than ever, like how f12 2+4 into whip trip allows you to catch people trying to poke out of or armor out of the gap of close kunai, you then create an element of doubt, so that you can then start using f12 2+4 close kunai, closing gaps is something lasher does very well and is VERY strong, creating that element of doubt and making your opponent second guess themselves gives you more options to space them out and mix them up. Basically lasher is top 5 IMO.