u weren't mashing to ur full potential. Mashing d1 was one of the best things about himIt's not THAT significant. It's still one of the less minus D1's in the game and is still super fast.
If he whiffs the whole string, that's when you can whiff punish. B1/B12 is his go to stagger so keep that in mind and the full string is minus enough to consistently have your turn. It's safe at all points tho. Keep the B1/B12 stagger in mind (it's about as good as old Piercing's stagger with identical buttons too)Hey guys, I have a quick question. Is the string b12 at any point punishable ? What is the best defense in scenario where Jamson rushing like a psycho with this string ?
Low profile pokes work pretty nicely vs Jason, but ultimately you need a higher hit box mid to compete with it (like Tremor's f2).Dude, its almost impossible to do a whiff punish on string that has such forward advancing properties - thats A.
B - I asked about punishing the string on block.
My turn, but my turn ends when he dose ex choke because that shit armored, so while he is at minus frame and while its my turn he is still able to fuck me over for trying punishing him, is that correct or perhaps I am missing something here ? I dont have Jason and I dont play Jason and I was not able to find quickly anything about it.
The armored choke is a high so you can neutral duck and punish that. But if he goes for EX Slash (where he starts slicing everywhere and walking forward) you can jump that and whiff punish after you land. It's basically just a game of "what armor and when" it's annoying tho for sure, I have played the matchup to death.Dude, its almost impossible to do a whiff punish on string that has such forward advancing properties - thats A.
B - I asked about punishing the string on block.
My turn, but my turn ends when he dose ex choke because that shit armored, so while he is at minus frame and while its my turn he is still able to fuck me over for trying punishing him, is that correct or perhaps I am missing something here ? I dont have Jason and I dont play Jason and I was not able to find quickly anything about it.
The armored choke is a high so you can neutral duck and punish that. But if he goes for EX Slash (where he starts slicing everywhere and walking forward) you can jump that and whiff punish after you land. It's basically just a game of "what armor and when" it's annoying tho for sure, I have played the matchup to death.
He's definitely annoying and strong. Just have to play it patiently and look for your moment.I have to play Unstoppable Jamson beside me. This mu just makes want to drop the game. I feel really bad plying this psycho.
What is "your moment" when ? Like I know I have to wait when Lao spins, Jax dose dash punch, A list runs out of stamina or go for 114 (gap) and so on... what's my moment you talk about ?He's definitely annoying and strong. Just have to play it patiently and look for your moment.
F42 (Low Overhead string) is punishable (Kung Lao's B1 should punish it clean) reading a choke on wakeup or as a counter poke and punishing that. Whiff punishing EX Slashes. Eventually when you punish Armor enough (by making it whiff) the opponent will most likely stop doing it so much so then it'll be your turn after their negative frames which should relieve some of the pressure you have to deal with.What is "your moment" when ? Like I know I have to wait when Lao spins, Jax dose dash punch, A list runs out of stamina or go for 114 (gap) and so on... what's my moment you talk about ?
Thanks !F42 (Low Overhead string) is punishable (Kung Lao's B1 should punish it clean) reading a choke on wakeup or as a counter poke and punishing that. Whiff punishing EX Slashes. Eventually when you punish Armor enough (by making it whiff) the opponent will most likely stop doing it so much so then it'll be your turn after their negative frames which should relieve some of the pressure you have to deal with.
No problem man! Good luck on your games.Thanks !
Are u speaking of slasher or the other two? Rele tles and unstoppables b122 (the advancing mid) is -8 if i recall correctly. It's also easilylow profiledWhat is "your moment" when ? Like I know I have to wait when Lao spins, Jax dose dash punch, A list runs out of stamina or go for 114 (gap) and so on... what's my moment you talk about ?
He's talking about Slasher.Are u speaking of slasher or the other two? Rele tles and unstoppables b122 (the advancing mid) is -8 if i recall correctly. It's also easilylow profiled
Holly Mother of Jesus! If that's correct, I should be able to punish it it 7f normal !!!Are u speaking of slasher or the other two? Rele tles and unstoppables b122 (the advancing mid) is -8 if i recall correctly. It's also easilylow profiled
@CrazyFingers u scrub it has a wierd blocksrun though, punish it with spin until u are familiar with the i7 normal punishHolly Mother of Jesus! If that's correct, I should be able to punish it it 7f normal !!!
I speak about the other two.
I dont think though I can low profile that string with KL d4, but I will look into that punishers.Are u speaking of slasher or the other two? Rele tles and unstoppables b122 (the advancing mid) is -8 if i recall correctly. It's also easilylow profiled
He is not talking about Slasher.The armored choke is a high so you can neutral duck and punish that. But if he goes for EX Slash (where he starts slicing everywhere and walking forward) you can jump that and whiff punish after you land. It's basically just a game of "what armor and when" it's annoying tho for sure, I have played the matchup to death.
It is what it is. Pre patch Jason was good just no one talked about him but he wasn't top 5...he's top 5 now no question. He's come a LONG way from release.Pre patch Jason being called mid tier.
This thread disgusts me.
I dunno I think he was very close to top 5 before the patch too but ill refrain from commenting on it too much as I don't know the character/matchups.It is what it is. Pre patch Jason was good just no one talked about him but he wasn't top 5...he's top 5 now no question. He's come a LONG way from release.