Guide - Cyber Sub-Zero MKXL Cyber Sub-Zero Combo Thread (Updated 10-3-16)

[Harlequin969]

I'm having trouble with a few of these

111 ice ball ~ ji2 ~ b3u4 xx FDK ~ NJP ~ JI4xx CDK ~ 21 ~ b12+4 the b1 always seems to whiff

Ive never used the charafter beforex has his mid screen combos always been so tight windowed ?

It's honestly just that combo in my experiance. I just use 21 - f131 slide or f131 ex drone summon for consistency.

 

[Ragnarök Tyr]

Even the b2 (hold) njp ji3 CDK st 4 RC f121 db4 seems tight at times, for only 29% as well...

I suppose I'll keep trying. If someone could do a video demonstration of the b1 2 + 4 ender that would be appreciated.

 

[Harlequin969]

Even the b2 (hold) njp ji3 CDK st 4 RC f121 db4 seems tight at times, for only 29% as well...

I suppose I'll keep trying. If someone could do a video demonstration of the b1 2 + 4 ender that would be appreciated.

To hit 131 consistently, wait for them to fall a bit. There's a sweet spot where 131 hits really easily. Also if you want 31-33% I recommend a 111 or f4 iceball DE. It's where his damage comes from.

 

[RM Ree]

I'm having trouble with a few of these

111 ice ball ~ ji2 ~ b3u4 xx FDK ~ NJP ~ JI4xx CDK ~ 21 ~ b12+4 the b1 always seems to whiff

Ive never used the charafter beforex has his mid screen combos always been so tight windowed ?

I've never tried that combo before, but from my experience using faster enders like 111 xx slide, I don't think b1 is fast enough to hit consistently. Maybe on Goro?

As far as preferred Enders, I think 114 is the way to go. If you notice the juggle hits low, you can confirm 111 instead.

 

[Ragnarök Tyr]

I'd have to ask @DarksydeDash since it's in the Spoiler section under 7 frame pokes. If he's done it.

 

[DarksydeDash]

I'd have to ask @DarksydeDash since it's in the Spoiler section under 7 frame pokes. If he's done it.

Yeah the 21 before the b12+4 is fairly tight. Honestly I may just omit the 21 and replace it with a S4 when you're in/ close to the corner.

 

[DarksydeDash]

Just so everyone knows, this thread will be updated every Friday unless something comes up.

 

[Ragnarök Tyr]

I also noticed one of those combos includes a F121. I'm assuming that's a typo for f131?

 

[DarksydeDash]

I also noticed one of those combos includes a F121. I'm assuming that's a typo for f131?

Yeah my bad

 

[Ragnarök Tyr]

Dive Kick, *bomb hits*, (Call Drone then quickly dash), NJP, FJKxx CDK, F42xx CDK, 21, 111xxDB4 =31-35%


F42?

 

[DarksydeDash]

Dive Kick, *bomb hits*, (Call Drone then quickly dash), NJP, FJKxx CDK, F42xx CDK, 21, 111xxDB4 =31-35%


F42?

Ok that was copy and paste, not me. xP

(Yes I'll fix it.)

 

[Toodrunk2combo]

I just wanted to add a combo I don't think I saw, b2,4,f131,db4 = 26%. With a drone for b2 it's 28%. It seems easy enough to execute.

 

[_xFriction]

so many empty spoilers..... apparently the fridge has stopped working

 

[RM Ree]

I think a lot of people checked out after the nerf. Unfortunate for this and the match-up thread.

 

[xInfra Deadx]

Players lack loyalty these days...no wonder why they grovel before themselves.

 

[DarksydeDash]

so many empty spoilers..... apparently the fridge has stopped working

Working on it...

 

[DarksydeDash]

Does anyone know how to stop spoilers from randomly duplicating? Its really annoying..

 

[Vigilante24]

Hey guys. So ive started playing CSZ (he is such a fun character!) and I think ive found a combo to increase his corner damage. I dont see it posted in the combo thread and I havent seen any other CSZ (from the vids ive seen) do this. Definitely viable as I did pull this off in a match. Damage ranges from 31%-32% without drone enhance and 35%-37% with it. This is assuming you don't summon a drone mid combo of course and take the full damage. Depends on starters 111, B1, B3, F13, F4.

Spoiler: Click If You Dare!

 

[DarksydeDash]

Hey guys. So ive started playing CSZ (he is such a fun character!) and I think ive found a combo to increase his corner damage. I dont see it posted in the combo thread and I havent seen any other CSZ (from the vids ive seen) do this. Definitely viable as I did pull this off in a match. Damage ranges from 31%-32% without drone enhance and 35%-37% with it. This is assuming you don't summon a drone mid combo of course and take the full damage. Depends on starters 111, B1, B3, F13, F4.

Spoiler: Click If You Dare!

Is there enough hit advantage for a bomb after a noncancelled 114?

If there is oh god dis gon beh gud.

 

[RM Ree]

Is there enough hit advantage for a bomb after a noncancelled 114?

If there is oh god dis gon beh gud.

I don't think so. Even without the freeze, 114 xx bomb > follow-up is tight. 1114 has enough advantage to get the bomb out safely, but it's the opponents turn after that. You have to react to whatever option they may choose, which is a whole CSZ meta in itself.

 

[DarksydeDash]

I don't think so. Even without the freeze, 114 xx bomb > follow-up is tight. 1114 has enough advantage to get the bomb out safely, but it's the opponents turn after that. You have to react to whatever option they may choose, which is a whole CSZ meta in itself.

Damn, see this is why I refuse to freeze my opponent when I punish them. :/ There has to be something were missing..

 

[Vigilante24]

I personally prefer to get the full damage ending in slide and oki from that. I do a lot of B2 cancelled into close bomb and ex close bomb to act as an ice clone. I will mix in jump over divekicks to reverse wakeups (as seen in my spoiler vid) or screw up inputs so wakeups dont come out. Once conditioning them to be scared, go for the HTBs and enjoy yourself for 41% meterless.

 

[Samsara]

Hey everybody I'm back! Sorry for taking a hike but the patch drama was unreal back in March so I bailed. Sorry to see they whacked Cyber Sub like that, what a shame. Nice to see the Injustice 2 hype breathe some life back into the forums. Here's to seeing some more frosty characters come it's release.

 

[ArmageddonUMK]

I just got back into playing again, and had used csz a bit pre patch, but what in gods name do I do with him now? So far, I'm trying to summon drones more, still ending combos with f2, and forgetting that f13 ice ball doesn't combo nonetheless I love the character, but with the nerfs, I'm struggling to figure out how to play him. Help please!

Also coming from using smoke, I'm used to using s1 a lot as an anti air. What would be the optimal conversion from an aa s1? I've been doing s1, f13 ice, njp, jk, dive kick, f2. And the timing on getting the ice ball to connect seems pretty tight, so anything that would make that easier would be helpful as well

 

[ErmacMKX]

It's a shame that they aren't going to buff him. You use to see every variation of Triborg before the patch frequently but now that's not the case. I'd rather have op characters that are fun to use than nerfed ones that are worthless.