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Question - Smoke What's the best phase vortex starter?

KombatJames

For the lin kuei!
Hey Guys I need your help. Usually when I start my vortex I begin with 3 x phase. But after watching this mkx weekly on twitch, I noticed a smoke player starting his vortex with f21 phase. It was very hard for his opponent to deal with the smoke animation on the screen. I know 3 has a 29f advantage, but that f21 smoke tho lol. Thoughts?
 

Harlequin969

Always press buttons
Hey Guys I need your help. Usually when I start my vortex I begin with 3 x phase. But after watching this mkx weekly on twitch, I noticed a smoke player starting his vortex with f21 phase. It was very hard for his opponent to deal with the smoke animation on the screen. I know 3 has a 29f advantage, but that f21 smoke tho lol. Thoughts?
I saw Max doing it on his stream as well. f21 is only +9 but when you smoke through them you get a free just about anything. Though some people can probably d1 you in smoke form. It's just a visual mind game to mess with people at best.
 

Scott The Scot

Where there is smoke, there is cancer.
I use F21 without a phase because I can either cancel into the overhead teleport, cancel low, do the regual kick or if they're respecting those options I just got for a 50/50 or throw the opponent. Great string, love it. On hit or block you can just play that game lol.

3~Phase gives you a lot of advantage for vortex but really you can just end in 2,1 for the advantage because at the end of the day guarenteed is guarenteed no matter how many frames you're at an advantage.
 

xSamuel

Player of All, Master of None.
f21 is cool for mind games but doesn't guarantee the 50/50 like standing 3. Up to you and your situation
 

KombatJames

For the lin kuei!
I saw Max doing it on his stream as well. f21 is only +9 but when you smoke through them you get a free just about anything. Though some people can probably d1 you in smoke form. It's just a visual mind game to mess with people at best.
My thoughts exactly! I was mind fucked trying to keep up with that smoke i saw, and i was just spectating lol
 

Harlequin969

Always press buttons
My thoughts exactly! I was mind fucked trying to keep up with that smoke i saw, and i was just spectating lol
It doesn't seem so bad when I do it normally, at least no worse than regular. I've yet to fight a smoke who vortexed me so I cant give a definate asnwer