I feel like Sub-Zero was nerfed instead of buffed after this patch. You can't even ex slide through a projectile unless it is on start up. I was hit out of ex slide with Raiden's fireball and Cyrax's net. What's the deal?
I stopped reading after this. You are a silly guyI feel like Sub-Zero was nerfed instead of buffed after this patch.
I hope all of your posts are this insightful and informative...Hmmmm. Ok.
You are right. He's clearly nerfed. The fact that he now has armor on slide so you can't lock him down anymore (especially if SZ's back is in the corner, cause you know, SZ is not good in the corner on offense) and the TEENY WEENY upgrade of having 10 frames extra time on freeze.....All he got was armor on his ex slide, and it's not even full armor. He had his reset removed, and the dash nerf makes it harder to combo off a freeze. Ex freeze is pointless from anywhere further than midscreen too.
Who said anything about his corner game being weak? Sub's corner is one of the best in the game. I said the ex slide is a buff, but I don't see why it doesn't have full armor. The thing is it feels like he got nerfed more than buffed. That extra ten frames of freeze is nullifed with the dash nerf. I would rather have the old dash and freeze times back. Way to not respond to what I said about ex freeze because you know I'm right.You are right. He's clearly nerfed. The fact that he now has armor on slide so you can't lock him down anymore (especially if SZ's back is in the corner, cause you know, SZ is not good in the corner on offense) and the TEENY WEENY upgrade of having 10 frames extra time on freeze.....
Yeah, SZ got nerfed. Good call
I don't know what the patch did to sub's gameplay? I play Sub everyday and have put many hours into him post patch. Do you even play Sub-Zero? I love how none of you comment on the dash nerf. That's what hurt him the most. I remember trading ex freeze with cyrax's net post patch and not being able to get a combo. So I miss out of a 25% combo and one bar of meter for a slide? Get that outta here... I already said he got a buff. Everyone and their mother knows he has armor on slide. I'm talking about everything else that changed. I feel like some of you guys don't even play sub-zero and are basing what you say on the patch notes. "Oh he has ten more frames on freeze AND armor on slide! This guy is the new kung lao!"... I'm outta here. I feel like I'm losing brain cells reading what some of you guys are saying. Oh yeah and thanks Tom Brady for clearing that up.LOl....no ur not right...i can think of a few other characs that dont have armour for the full duration of an ex move...and we're not complaining about them are we? Anyway...if u consider sub bein nerfed rather than buffed id hate to see what u would call a buff... Why not put armour on his normals too? Dunno lemme know what u think. Btw ... u have no idea what that "nerf" did to subs gameplay n matchups if u can say something as wise as that....alot o ppl complain cuz he got the buff and now im seein a guy complainin n callin sub a nerfed charac....just wow....the mind boggles...
I was talking about ex freeze trading with net. Pre patch I was able to dash up and combo, but now I can't. Guess I should practice dash blocking. Thanks for actually posting something useful. TB knows what's up.Kobra you should be able to get a full combo regardless of dashing if you hit them with ex-freeze; I think you can basically walk up to the opponent because that is how long the freeze duration is lol. Anyways just to paraphrase what Brady has said in another SZ thread the dashing nerf is actually advantageous for us SZ players because of 2 things: 1. It slows down everyone's mobility if they don't dash block and lets face it SZ wasn't one of the most mobile characters and 2. Makes the game more footsie-oriented and SZs D4 is on par with the best in the game, not to mention you can bait pokes with D4 clone.
https://twitter.com/#!/pakostevens/status/119837668321406976pakostevens said:@mingzang39 so what? there is only armor on it for the first 20 frames.