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CrimsonShadow

CrimsonShadow

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Practical BnBs (Hit-confirmable launchers, with reliable execution requirements)

Disclaimer: These are practical, rather than max-damage. If you are a "combo master" and can reliably execute combos which are more difficult/tighter than these for slightly higher damage, enjoy. But by 'practical' I generally mean BnB's you probably won't drop in the heat of a tournament set and can connect in your sleep.

(njp = nj1 or nj2; jik = jump forward 3, but in some cases jump forward 4 will work as well)

Note: Against Ferra/Torr specifically, you will need to substitute b2~tele for b12 tele, as b12 tele will whiff.

SHIRAI RYU

BnB:
[Meterless]
f12,2+4(first hit)~tele, 44~spear (26%, easy)
f12,2+4(first hit)~tele, NJP, f12,2+4~spear (27%)
f12,2+4(first hit)~tele, NJP, 44~spear (28%, tighter)

NJP, 4~tele, f21~spear (29%, easier)
NJP, 44~tele, f21~spear (32%)

[One Bar]
f12,2+4(first hit)~tele, 44~EN spear, b2~spear (34%, dead simple)
f12,2+4(first hit)~tele, 44~EN spear, run up b21~spear (34%)
f12,2+4(first hit)~tele, NJP, 44~EN spear, run up b21~spear (36%, tighter)

f21/112~EN fist flurry, b21~tele, 33~spear/fist flurry (38%)
f21/112~EN fist flurry, b2~tele, NJP, short run, f21~spear (41%, harder)

b21~EN spear, b21~tele, 33~spear/fist flurry (36%)
b21~EN spear, b21~tele, njp, run xx throw (36%, throw ender)
b21~EN fist flurry, b21~tele, 33~spear (38%)

33~EN first flurry, b21~tele, 33~spear (38%)
44~EN fist flurry, b2~tele, NJP, short run, f21~spear (45%, harder)

NJP, 4~tele, f21~EN spear, run up b21~spear (38%, easier)
NJP, 44~tele, f21~EN spear, run up b21~spear (41%)

EN fist flurry, b21~tele, 33~fist flurry (34%, easy)
EN fist flurry, b2~tele, NJP, short run f21~spear (37%)
EN tornado kick, b2~tele, 33~fist flurry (33%)

EN tele, njp, jik~air spear (27%)

[Two Bars]
f21/112~EN first flurry, run up 44~en spear, b2~spear (43%)
f21/112~EN fist flurry, b2~tele, short run, 112~EN spear, run up b21~spear (48%)
f21/112~EN fist flurry, b2~tele, NJP, short run, f21~EN spear, run up b21~spear (48%, harder)

b21~EN fist flurry, b2~tele, 33~EN spear, b2~spear (47%).

44~EN fist flurry, b2~tele, NJP, short run, f21~EN spear, run up b21~spear (52%, harder)

EN fist flurry, run up 44~en spear, b2~spear (39%)

EN tele, 44~EN spear, run up f2~spear (34%)
EN tele, nj2, jik~EN air spear, 4~spear (34%)

EN kunai, b2~tele, 33~en grapple, air spear (43%)

EN tornado kick, b2~tele, 33~EN spear, run up b21~spear (43%)

Air to Air:
[Meterless]
jip/jik~tele, 4~spear (23%/25%, based on starter)

[One Bar]
jip/jik~tele, 4~EN spear, run up f2~spear (33%/35%, based on starter)

[Two Bars]
Coming soon

Long Blockstun Punishes:
[One Bar]
44~EN fist flurry, b21~tele, 33~spear (42%, 14-frame starter)
b3~EN kunai, teleport, 44~spear (37%)
b3~EN kunai, teleport, NJP, f21~spear (37%)

[Two Bars]
44~EN fist flurry, b21~tele, 33~EN spear, b2~spear (49%, 14-frame starter)
44~EN fist flurry, b21~tele, 33~EN spear, air spear (47%, 14-frame starter)
b3~EN kunai, teleport, 44~EN spear, run up b21~spear (46%)

Corner:
[One Bar]
f21~EN fist flurry, NJP, 44~fist flurry (36%)
112~EN first flurry, NJP, 44-first flurry (36%)

[Two Bars]
f12,2+4(first hit)~EN kunai, 44~EN fist flurry, NJP, 44~fist flurry (40%)
b3~EN Kunai, 44~EN fist flurry, 44~spear (44%)

112~EN kunai, 44~EN fist flurry, NJP, 44~fist flurry (46%)

RONIN

BnB:
[Meterless]
b112, f21~Shirai Ruy Kan(Shoryuken/Blade Uppercut) (23%)

[One Bar]
b212+4~blade drop, EN blade recall, 44~Blade Uppercut (32%)
21~EN first flurry, run, 44~Blade Uppercut (34%)
b112, 21~EN first flurry, run, 44~Blade Uppercut (35%)

NJP, 21~EN fist flurry, run, 44~Blade Uppercut (34%)

[Two Bar]
b212+4~blade drop, EN blade recall, 21~MB fist flurry, run, 4~Blade Uppercut (39%)
b21~blade drop, EN blade recall, (pause), d1, 21~MB fist flurry, run, 4~Blade Uppercut (42%)
b21~blade drop, EN blade recall, (pause), d1, 21~MB fist flurry, run, 4~Blade Uppercut (41%, slightly easier)

21~EN first flurry, run, 21 EN first flurry, run, 44~Blade Uppercut (45%)
b112, 21~EN first flurry, run, 21 EN first flurry, run, 44~Blade Uppercut (43%)

b3~blade drop, EN blade recall, 21~MB fist flurry, run, 4~Blade Uppercut (37%)
b3~blade drop, EN blade recall, 21~MB fist flurry, run, 44~Blade Uppercut (39%)

NJP, 21~EN first flurry, 21~EN fist flurry, run, 44~Blade Uppercut (43%)

LASHER

BnB:
[One Bar]
f21/b21~EN Whip Assault, NJP, run, 44~Whip Assault (35%/34%)

Corner:
[One Bar]
b21/f21~EX Whip Assault, NJP, 44~Whip Strike, d1~Whip Assault (41%/40%)

[Two Bar]
b21~EN Kunai, 44~EX Whip Assault, NJP, 44~Whip Strike, d1~Whip Assault (51%)

Additional thanks to Alioune, Pan1cMode, Zyphox, Tomo009, LiangHuBBB etc. for getting this started off. More updates on the way!

@HomeLee1121
 
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Honfar95

Noob
great combos, ive discovered some of the same ones myself, in addition, i think you might wanna add (to the shirai ryu section) that you can use b2,1 as a ~70% screen starter into en spear, if you're farther than sweep distance you can also cancel it into ex kunai and follow up with a tp and finish the combo with njp, ji3 xx air spear

edit: also might wanna add that the en spear combos can be started with b3 if you're feeling cocky
 
residentevil911

residentevil911

Noob
Honfar95 said:
great combos, ive discovered some of the same ones myself, in addition, i think you might wanna add (to the shirai ryu section) that you can use b2,1 as a ~70% screen starter into en spear, if you're farther than sweep distance you can also cancel it into ex kunai and follow up with a tp and finish the combo with njp, ji3 xx air spear

edit: also might wanna add that the en spear combos can be started with b3 if you're feeling cocky
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You'd be surprised how often that works. Most of his starters are about spacing and control. I've conditioned so many to block the overhead and take the b3.
 
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FilthyMT

Noob
Shirai Ryu

Some of these combos can be started with a b3~EXspear (low starter) or a b21~EXspear (overhead starter) in place of a jip.

Meterless
jip, 44~spear (25%) If you can't pull this combo then stop playing MKX.
jik~tele, 33~spear (27%)

One bar
jip, 44~EXspear, b21~tele, 33~spear (42% crazy easy) 35% when starting with b3~EXspear. 37% when starting with b21~EXspear.
b3~EXkunai, tele, f122+4~ spear (36%)
The timing is a little tricky with the f122+4 and being able to land the spear but with practice it is possible. You're also going to let the full f122+4 string ride. If you have trouble with the f122+4 then just sub it for a 33~spear to finish the combo.(still 35%.)
jik~tele, 33~EXspear, b21~tele (35%)
This next one requires some kinda strict timing.
jip44~EXspear, tele, njp, jik3~air spear (44%) Can start with b21~EXspear for overhead starter (38%) or a b3~EXspear for 37%

Two Bar
jip,44~EXspear, tele, njp, jik3~EXair spear, 33~spear (50%) If starting with b21~EXspear 45%. If starting with b3~EXspear 44%.

This isn't really relevant to this thread but after i finish a combo I sometimes throw a mid kauni out. Its only avoidable by a wake-up with armor or has to be dodged with a tech roll. Of course it can be blocked but if they get wise hit em with a b21 instead of a mid kunai and start another combo. A far kunai will hit if they tech roll. You can also EXkunai for a combo starter. Do I hear Takeda vortex?
 
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RainMK9

RainMK9

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Can some one explain to me why I'm not getting the tele off on these kombos?

f12,2+4(first hit)~tele, 33~spear (24%, dead easy)
f12,2+4(first hit)~tele, 33~fist flurry (23%, easy, close hard knockdown)
f12,2+4(first hit)~tele, nj2, throw (23%, throw ender)

Does the + mean at the same time? Cause i'm doing that and the teleport doesnt come out ever. But I have no problems with

44,ENbf1(spear),tele,334 (36%)
 
yams

yams

Noob
RainMK9 said:
Can some one explain to me why I'm not getting the tele off on these kombos?

f12,2+4(first hit)~tele, 33~spear (24%, dead easy)
f12,2+4(first hit)~tele, 33~fist flurry (23%, easy, close hard knockdown)
f12,2+4(first hit)~tele, nj2, throw (23%, throw ender)

Does the + mean at the same time? Cause i'm doing that and the teleport doesnt come out ever. But I have no problems with

44,ENbf1(spear),tele,334 (36%)
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Yea the 2+4 means you press them at the same time.
 
skateblind

skateblind

Noob
RainMK9 said:
Does the + mean at the same time? Cause i'm doing that and the teleport doesnt come out ever.
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f12,2+4(first hit)~tele, 33~spear (24%, dead easy)

+ does mean at the same time. The combo has 4 hits but essentially 3 separate button combinations, (f1)(2)(2+4). You can interrupt the combo by teleporting after the 3rd hit.
 
RainMK9

RainMK9

Noob
skateblind said:
f12,2+4(first hit)~tele, 33~spear (24%, dead easy)

+ does mean at the same time. The combo has 4 hits but essentially 3 separate button combinations, (f1)(2)(2+4). You can interrupt the combo by teleporting after the 3rd hit.
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Thanks I finally got it, I guess I have to be more precise with my dpad inputs as it seems like the game was interpreting that i was entering down diagonal 2 every time i tried the tele
 
MadeFromMetal

MadeFromMetal

Heart From Iron, Mind From Steel.
Serious Question: Is there an aversion to uppercuts? I'm not seeing any but I have been connecting this one consistently and I drop combos all the time.

SHIRAI RYU

4,4~EX bf1, b2,1~db3, d2. 39% (add a jip for an extra percent)

The d2 is so much easier (for me) to connect than the other enders, and it does more damage. Do we not use it because there is no hard knockdown?

Side note, instead of uppercut, you can opt to throw at the end of a match for that 38% brutality swag.
 
CrimsonShadow

CrimsonShadow

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MadeFromMetal said:
Serious Question: Is there an aversion to uppercuts? I'm not seeing any but I have been connecting this one consistently and I drop combos all the time.

SHIRAI RYU

4,4~EX bf1, b2,1~db3, d2. 39% (add a jip for an extra percent)

The d2 is so much easier (for me) to connect than the other enders, and it does more damage. Do we not use it because there is no hard knockdown?
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I'm not sure what you mean by doing more damage. Most of his standard BnBs do about 2% less damage when ending with d2 instead of the typical 33~spear enders, and 3% less than 33~fist flurry.

For example that combo you posted (while not a BnB) does 41% with the usual ender instead of d2.
 
MadeFromMetal

MadeFromMetal

Heart From Iron, Mind From Steel.
CrimsonShadow said:
I'm not sure what you mean by doing more damage. Most of his standard BnBs do about 2% less damage when ending with d2 instead of the typical 33~spear enders, and 3% less than 33~fist flurry.

For example that combo you posted (while not a BnB) does 41% with the usual ender instead of d2.
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Really? I was only looking at the percentages in the OP and didn't see any that high. Looking again though, I also see none of those combos posted start with 44. Thanks for the clarification.
 
tolate

tolate

The Takeda Tech Leech
change b21~EN spear, b21~tele, 33~spear/fist flurry to
b21~EN spear, b2~tele, 33~spear/fist flurry

larger character such as ferra/torr will fall out of the b21xxdb3 but not b2xxdb3. this is true for all combos that follow this pattern
combo is reduced by less than one percent
 
CrimsonShadow

CrimsonShadow

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RedRaptor10 said:
These are the best BnBs I could find (for Shirai Ryu). There are probably better ones. I listed one for each ender (throw, 334, fist flurry, spear, and air spear). If you can end with air spear I omitted throw cuz it's the same thing but does more damage.

f122+4 (1st hit) tele njp walk forward 334 25%
f122+4 (1st hit) tele njp walk forward 33 fist flurry 26%
f122+4 (1st hit) tele njp walk forward 33 spear 26%
f122+4 (1st hit) tele njp j3/j4 air spear 28%

112/f21/b21 EX spear b21 tele throw 34%
112/f21/b21 EX spear b21 tele njp run throw 37%
112/f21/b21 EX spear b21 tele 334 35%
112/f21/b21 EX spear b21 tele 33 fist flurry 36%
112/f21/b21 EX spear b21 tele 33 spear 37%

b3 EX kunai b21 tele throw 35%
b3 EX kunai b21 tele 334 37%
b3 EX kunai tele 33 fist flurry 35%
b3 EX kunai tele 33 spear 35%
b3 EX kunai b2 tele f21 spear 38%
b3 EX kunai b2 tele 33 EX spear air spear 46%

EX tele njp 334 24%
EX tele njp 33 spear 25%
EX tele njp 33 fist flurry 25%
EX tele njp j3/j4 air spear 27%

EX fist flurry b21 tele throw 26%
EX fist flurry b21 tele 334 27%
EX fist flurry b21 tele 33 fist flurry 28%
EX fist flurry b21 tele 33 spear 28%

EX tornado strike b21 tele throw 30%
EX tornado strike b21 tele 334 31%
EX tornado strike b21 tele 33 fist flurry 32%
EX tornado strike b21 tele 33 spear 33%

njp b21 tele throw 25%
njp b21 tele 334 26%
njp b21 tele 33 fist flurry 27%
njp b21 tele 33 spear 28&
njp b21 tele 33 EX spear b2 fist flurry 34%
njp b21 tele 33 EX spear b2 spear 34%
njp b21 tele 33 EX spear air spear 35%

Anti-Air:
1 tele njp 334 24%
1 tele njp walk forward f21 fist flurry 26%
1 tele njp b21 spear 26%
1 tele njp j3 air spear 27%
1 tele njp b21 EX spear b2 fist flurry 32%
1 tele njp b21 EX spear b2 spear 33%
1 tele njp b21 EX spear air spear 33%

Air-to-Air:
j1 b21 tele throw 24%
j1 b21 tele 334 25%
j1 b21 tele 33 fist flurry 26%
j1 b21 tele 33 spear 27%
j1 b21 tele 33 EX spear b2 fist flurry 34%
j1 b21 tele 33 EX spear b2 spear 34%
j1 b21 tele 33 EX spear air spear 34%

Corner:
f122+4 tele throw 23%
112/f21/b21 EX fist flurry njp j4 33 fist flurry 32%
EX tornado strike njp j4 33 fist furry 31%
(b2 ender in corner combos can be replaced with b21 for 1% more damage.)
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Make sure you confirm which of this work on male/female characters, and characters like Ferr/Torr.
 
ryublaze

ryublaze

Noob
CrimsonShadow said:
Make sure you confirm which of this work on male/female characters, and characters like Ferr/Torr.
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ok I updated my post. When doing b21 teleport against Ferra/Torr you have to delay the teleport slightly to get it to connect. It's not too hard once you get the timing down. For the b3 EX Kunai b21 combo on females you have to pause before doing b21 (otherwise the 2nd hit whiffs). Also the first anti-air combo is inconsistent on females.
 
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