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Youphemism

Gunslinger since pre patch (sh/out to The Farmer)
Ya thats the one...that everybody drops lol, but really i think people drop it cuz sheild stance rust. Gotta practice dem combos.
You can change the starter to 11b1~bf3 rather than 2b1~bf3, b1~bf3 for more consistent but slightly less damage. Low-mid 50's iirc
 

Sonic Lionheart

Starfire - Canary - Supergirl
Greetings warriors~
I'm trying to pick up the amazonian princess and was wondering if anyone had a trick to do IADG on stick with alternate controls? Thanks for the help.
 

Youphemism

Gunslinger since pre patch (sh/out to The Farmer)
how do you guys punish supermans flying punch
With sparkles and fairy dust and childrens laughter :D

Or b1. Don't quote me on that though, I haven't tested it. I know flying punch has pushback but he's -16 and b1 is 11 frames and moves her forward so a b1 should punish. Then again his flying punch is 21 frames on startup so you might be able to parry on reaction and punish with whatever the hell you want. Test it and see though :)
 

The Highlander

There can be only one
how do you guys punish supermans flying punch
The most damage is b1, b1, b113, b113, lg for 37% I think but it's tougher to consistently get this. I find 23 23 dash d1 b113 lg for 31% more consistent.

Greetings warriors~
I'm trying to pick up the amazonian princess and was wondering if anyone had a trick to do IADG on stick with alternate controls? Thanks for the help.
This isn't mine but @Sajam made a good video about doing instant dashes, I assume the same trick could be applied?
Edit: found it -
 

Youphemism

Gunslinger since pre patch (sh/out to The Farmer)
The most damage is b1, b1, b113, b113, lg for 37% I think but it's tougher to consistently get this. I find 23 23 dash d1 b113 lg for 31% more consistent.


This isn't mine but @Sajam made a good video about doing instant dashes, I assume the same trick could be applied?
Edit: found it -
Quick question, are you actually Scottish or are you just parodying Scotland? Lol
 

Youphemism

Gunslinger since pre patch (sh/out to The Farmer)
Until you face Sinestro, Zod, DS, Aquaman, MMH, Raven

God I hate chasing people.
Beating a Cyborg/Zod is sooooo tedious it's unreal. DS isn't so bad since you can dash in after a blocked gun and bait a sword flip or whatever in footsie range, and I don't have much exp in the MMH/Raven MUs. Aquaman is also a pain in the ass though, fucking d2s and shit everywhere if you're up close -_- try and keep in the air and insta-air tiara zone against him from range, there's not much he can do about it. Once he's in range do your shit, if you knock him down it's over for him.
 

NRF CharlieMurphy

Kindergarten Meta
Beating a Cyborg/Zod is sooooo tedious it's unreal. DS isn't so bad since you can dash in after a blocked gun and bait a sword flip or whatever in footsie range, and I don't have much exp in the MMH/Raven MUs. Aquaman is also a pain in the ass though, fucking d2s and shit everywhere if you're up close -_- try and keep in the air and insta-air tiara zone against him from range, there's not much he can do about it. Once he's in range do your shit, if you knock him down it's over for him.
How do you touch him though

lol he's more tedious than anyone to even touch. If you aren't close and you jump... all he has to do is wait for you to get into the "FTD" height and do it. If not... he can just block everything you do and punish. Think about how Theo plays against Zod..... and apply that here. Except WW doesnt' have a badass trait to at least freeze him up a bit... or make him move. He can just out footsie her so badly. :(.

I still believe Raven is her worst MU by far. Talk about having ZERO answers to Raven's trait. Unless i'm missing something new.
 

The Highlander

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How do you touch him though

lol he's more tedious than anyone to even touch. If you aren't close and you jump... all he has to do is wait for you to get into the "FTD" height and do it. If not... he can just block everything you do and punish. Think about how Theo plays against Zod..... and apply that here. Except WW doesnt' have a badass trait to at least freeze him up a bit... or make him move. He can just out footsie her so badly. :(.

I still believe Raven is her worst MU by far. Talk about having ZERO answers to Raven's trait. Unless i'm missing something new.
Raven? Interesting, I mean her walk speed is insane but at least with one knockdown she's screwed. Her zoning is annoying, but generally you have to just take the chip and wait for the inevitable dash opportunity. I think Aquaman is wayyy worse though, he completely dominates all ranges, dashing is impossible and walking towards him is suicide. Plus his wakeups are better enough to be annoying. Sinestro is tougher too IMO, chasing him down is challenging, and trait is so easy for him to call out...
 

NRF CharlieMurphy

Kindergarten Meta
Raven? Interesting, I mean her walk speed is insane but at least with one knockdown she's screwed. Her zoning is annoying, but generally you have to just take the chip and wait for the inevitable dash opportunity. I think Aquaman is wayyy worse though, he completely dominates all ranges, dashing is impossible and walking towards him is suicide. Plus his wakeups are better enough to be annoying. Sinestro is tougher too IMO, chasing him down is challenging, and trait is so easy for him to call out...
Raven is like Sinestro. In trait you can't dash for fear of the grab. I guess you can parry the pillar.... but i mean... what does that really give you?

Maybe she isn't the worst... but for me she was.

AM is just wow. I don't even know how I won the games I did.
 

Youphemism

Gunslinger since pre patch (sh/out to The Farmer)
How do you touch him though

lol he's more tedious than anyone to even touch. If you aren't close and you jump... all he has to do is wait for you to get into the "FTD" height and do it. If not... he can just block everything you do and punish. Think about how Theo plays against Zod..... and apply that here. Except WW doesnt' have a badass trait to at least freeze him up a bit... or make him move. He can just out footsie her so badly. :(.

I still believe Raven is her worst MU by far. Talk about having ZERO answers to Raven's trait. Unless i'm missing something new.
Aquaman? As I said, keep in the air and tiara zone until you're in footsie range. He doesn't have many options besides something like trident toss, which you can bait, air dash over and whiff punish with j3 into a combo he can't trait out of. Once you've knocked him down then you can go ham :p otherwise go into shield stance, you take less chip and you can use shield bash (MB since you'll have meter) to an extent to get in and start offense. Then knockdown etc
Raven? Interesting, I mean her walk speed is insane but at least with one knockdown she's screwed. Her zoning is annoying, but generally you have to just take the chip and wait for the inevitable dash opportunity. I think Aquaman is wayyy worse though, he completely dominates all ranges, dashing is impossible and walking towards him is suicide. Plus his wakeups are better enough to be annoying. Sinestro is tougher too IMO, chasing him down is challenging, and trait is so easy for him to call out...
Yeah just knock her down and she doesn't have an invincible wakeup to get around you with. If you can parry the pillars (I'm assuming you can from what I've read but I don't personally have enough exp in the mu) then abuse that! It removes all blockstun from the attacking move so you're guaranteed a free dash pretty much :)
Aquaman can't compete with you in the air, read what I've said above. If you time it right his wakeups shouldn't be a problem, sometimes you can space yourself out enough to b2 him out of a wakeup and do something like b2~df1. Sinestro's Fear Blasts can be d3'd, everything else is unsafe and gives you a free dash (to my knowledge). Block arachnid sting and punish. Your main problem is trait so make sure he doesn't get it, keep on him with pressure and don't let him get full screen. On knockdown his best option is arachnid sting on wakeup, which is -10 and can be punished (it might also be able to be parried and you can get a better punish than d12 though I haven't tested this)
 

NRF CharlieMurphy

Kindergarten Meta
Aquaman? As I said, keep in the air and tiara zone until you're in footsie range. He doesn't have many options besides something like trident toss, which you can bait, air dash over and whiff punish with j3 into a combo he can't trait out of. Once you've knocked him down then you can go ham :p otherwise go into shield stance, you take less chip and you can use shield bash (MB since you'll have meter) to an extent to get in and start offense. Then knockdown etc

Yeah just knock her down and she doesn't have an invincible wakeup to get around you with. If you can parry the pillars (I'm assuming you can from what I've read but I don't personally have enough exp in the mu) then abuse that! It removes all blockstun from the attacking move so you're guaranteed a free dash pretty much :)
Aquaman can't compete with you in the air, read what I've said above. If you time it right his wakeups shouldn't be a problem, sometimes you can space yourself out enough to b2 him out of a wakeup and do something like b2~df1. Sinestro's Fear Blasts can be d3'd, everything else is unsafe and gives you a free dash (to my knowledge). Block arachnid sting and punish. Your main problem is trait so make sure he doesn't get it, keep on him with pressure and don't let him get full screen. On knockdown his best option is arachnid sting on wakeup, which is -10 and can be punished (it might also be able to be parried and you can get a better punish than d12 though I haven't tested this)
Dude

again... AM will RAPE tiarra toss zoning like he does with Zod. All he has to do is block, or trade. Waiting on the height of your jump to determine if he'll FTD or not.
 

Youphemism

Gunslinger since pre patch (sh/out to The Farmer)
Dude

again... AM will RAPE tiarra toss zoning like he does with Zod. All he has to do is block, or trade. Waiting on the height of your jump to determine if he'll FTD or not.
Yeah I don't mean tiara zone every time you jump, use it to bait a reaction...mix that in with iaDG too and take advantage of the buffer on it to armour through any counter Aquaman tries on the iaDG
 

The Highlander

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Raven is like Sinestro. In trait you can't dash for fear of the grab. I guess you can parry the pillar.... but i mean... what does that really give you?

Maybe she isn't the worst... but for me she was.

AM is just wow. I don't even know how I won the games I did.
Can't even parry the pillar, so we have to hold that chip... :( Yea I can't believe I once thought Aquaman was an even match-up.
Aquaman? As I said, keep in the air and tiara zone until you're in footsie range. He doesn't have many options besides something like trident toss, which you can bait, air dash over and whiff punish with j3 into a combo he can't trait out of. Once you've knocked him down then you can go ham :p otherwise go into shield stance, you take less chip and you can use shield bash (MB since you'll have meter) to an extent to get in and start offense. Then knockdown etc

Yeah just knock her down and she doesn't have an invincible wakeup to get around you with. If you can parry the pillars (I'm assuming you can from what I've read but I don't personally have enough exp in the mu) then abuse that! It removes all blockstun from the attacking move so you're guaranteed a free dash pretty much :)
Aquaman can't compete with you in the air, read what I've said above. If you time it right his wakeups shouldn't be a problem, sometimes you can space yourself out enough to b2 him out of a wakeup and do something like b2~df1. Sinestro's Fear Blasts can be d3'd, everything else is unsafe and gives you a free dash (to my knowledge). Block arachnid sting and punish. Your main problem is trait so make sure he doesn't get it, keep on him with pressure and don't let him get full screen. On knockdown his best option is arachnid sting on wakeup, which is -10 and can be punished (it might also be able to be parried and you can get a better punish than d12 though I haven't tested this)
Shield is a bill, the dash is so bad that it gets punished with ease and he will win the chip war even with shield because he still gets his meter back from rush although on the plus side it only does like 5% I think. Stuffing his wake-ups is huge, it's the only way to really get momentum since it's so hard to approach him and trait says fuck your frame traps, it's also much tougher to do than anything he has to do in the match-up. I actually didn't know that we could d3 the fear blast, do we get a dash after or is it like the batarangs. Arachnid can be parried and punished with b113, which is cool but it's safer to block and punish.
 

Youphemism

Gunslinger since pre patch (sh/out to The Farmer)
Can't even parry the pillar, so we have to hold that chip... :( Yea I can't believe I once thought Aquaman was an even match-up.

Shield is a bill, the dash is so bad that it gets punished with ease and he will win the chip war even with shield because he still gets his meter back from rush although on the plus side it only does like 5% I think. Stuffing his wake-ups is huge, it's the only way to really get momentum since it's so hard to approach him and trait says fuck your frame traps, it's also much tougher to do than anything he has to do in the match-up. I actually didn't know that we could d3 the fear blast, do we get a dash after or is it like the batarangs. Arachnid can be parried and punished with b113, which is cool but it's safer to block and punish.
Aquaman even....smh

Shield isn't a bill...it does big damage. Yes it slows her down a bit but you don't need dash when you have shield bash. You can at the very least check Aqua with shield bash after you block it, otherwise you might be able to punish with it. Trident rush is -11, shield bash is -11 on startup. You have the advantage in that situation. Then you're +9 on block so you can do it again or trait cancel into something or just trait back into lasso.

D3 gets under a lot man...Sinestro is just tedious too :) it might be like the batarangs, not sure if it recovers fast enough, but at the very least you can walk in a bit lol
 

mfkaoz

Banned
So I've decided to pick up Dirty Diana. What are some tips to get going with her? I'm juat getting her bnbs down for now.