Who deserves to be in top 10?

[IMakeItL00kC00L]

I voted 4 characters because imo all these top characters shouldnt be looked at through a list of top 10, but a list of top 12. I believe this because what we have through what most people believe are the top characters can be put into 3 distinguishable groups of 4. First, we have the cream of the crop in regards to the characters in this game as the top 4 (mmh, am, bg, zod). Next we have 4 characters that are close to those 4, but for whatever reason dont have enough to overcome the first 4 in our rankings (bane, sin, sm, flash). Finally we have our last group of 4 that are very good characters but have a pretty big hole that someone ranked above them can exploit, therefore leaving them below the first 8 (ww, bm, ds, dd).

I feel that this is the best way to rank the top characters because within these 3 groups the characters are so even with each other that a ranking of the top 12 would do them more justice than a ranking of the top 10

 

[Eric The Scruffy]

Shit, I deleted my post. Anyway, WW doesn't lose to AM IMO. It's 5-5. It comes down to the quality of the player and being able to out footsie the other.

Well...I for one look forward to seeing your performance. Right now I'm more inclined to believe filipinoman.

 

[TotteryManx]

@MITDJT this thread has become a WW vs. GL thread, but I'm telling you guys. I have more to prove than most due to my shit talking over the course of a few years. I'm coming out swinging at KIT. The only thing that could possibly stop me is IAFB's from Zod or something. I was working hard!

 

[rev0lver]

raven and wonder woman

 

[Kinetic Balding1]

I literally laughed out loud. Are you the Cyborg player with the ridiculous MU chart?

yep thats me

 

[TotteryManx]

Well...I for one look forward to seeing your performance. Right now I'm more inclined to believe filipinoman.

Filipinoman is a great player, but as I said he plays Theo. I do not expect Theo to be at KIT to stop my wrecking at KIT. I am super feeling myself right now.

 

[YOMI MITYEAP]

@MITDJT this thread has become a WW vs. GL thread, but I'm telling you guys. I have more to prove than most due to my shit talking over the course of a few years. I'm coming out swinging at KIT. The only thing that could possibly stop me is IAFB's from Zod or something. I was working hard!

yo bring the hype, I'm interested #YEEEAAPP

 

[The Highlander]

Needs meter to stay safe. Gets zoned out. Gets fucked by armor characters (Bane/Lex/Grundy). Has to actually work in his Winning mu's. Like he can't just go crazy on Raven. He whiffs a move or string = Gets fucked cause his recovery sucks. Wakeup's are meh. Floaty jump. Only one good normal in S3 and even that has a whacky hitbox at times. He can get punished hard for guessing wrong on his mixup's.

His strings are unsafe? That's pretty bad. But as for the rest of that, getting zoned out is the same as ww, as is getting fucked by armor characters, as is working to win even in winning match-ups, he has a multihitting wake-up that can be mb to be plus how is that bad? These last two in top ten, no matter what, are not going to be destroying characters left right and center.

i am pretty sure it is 15 frames.

17 frames pretty sure

 

[GGA Max]

I voted 4 characters because imo all these top characters shouldnt be looked at through a list of top 10, but a list of top 12. I believe this because what we have through what most people believe are the top characters can be put into 3 distinguishable groups of 4. First, we have the cream of the crop in regards to the characters in this game as the top 4 (mmh, am, bg, zod). Next we have 4 characters that are close to those 4, but for whatever reason dont have enough to overcome the first 4 in our rankings (bane, sin, sm, flash). Finally we have our last group of 4 that are very good characters but have a pretty big hole that someone ranked above them can exploit, therefore leaving them below the first 8 (ww, bm, ds, dd).

I feel that this is the best way to rank the top characters because within these 3 groups the characters are so even with each other that a ranking of the top 12 would do them more justice than a ranking of the top 10

Its interesting you say that, and then 4 of those characters in the poll have significantly pulled away from the rest, lol.

 

[TotteryManx]

yo bring the hype, I'm interested #YEEEAAPP

They're is no hype to be brought. It's gonna be a slaughter if the "top players" still take the game seriously.

EDIT; Matter of fact; @AK Pig Of The Hut I respect you more than most so I challenge you to a $100 money match. Trust me, I will be there and I'm gonna change this shit.

 

[IMakeItL00kC00L]

Its interesting you say that, and then 4 of those characters in the poll have significantly pulled away from the rest, lol.

My point exactly

 

[4x4lo8o]

Why isn't Ares in the poll?

 

[Yoaks]

His strings are unsafe? That's pretty bad. But as for the rest of that, getting zoned out is the same as ww, as is getting fucked by armor characters, as is working to win even in winning match-ups, he has a multihitting wake-up that can be mb to be plus how is that bad? These last two in top ten, no matter what, are not going to be destroying characters left right and center.

17 frames pretty sure

113 is plus 6, but the first two hits are high. So you can d1 interupt. b12 is plus 4. Hook Charge is stuffable. Lobo only really beats sup-par characters. I think he has a good amount of winning mu's around 7 -10. IMO hes around 12-15 in the tier.

 

[Youphemism]

I respect this, get it done. @BillStickers I would say her normal are solid. B1, B2, D3 are all very solid. Are they better than Green Lantern's? I mean you can't backdash her stuff but b1,3 does have range and great start up.
Edit: I heard u can backdash in between 3,3 tho haha

Backdash, some characters can parry, YEEEAAAPPP

B2 is 12 frames I believe for WW. It can lead to over 30% damage, but GL has way more tricks than WW when it comes to his B1 and off a knockdown. Though, 33 for WW can give her advantage which is more important I believe. Once you check your opponent with d1 and they learn to accept it...that can open up the door for 50/50's. Serious business.

HAHAHA B2 is NOT 12 frames, don't even try it. 17 frames dude. 12 frames and she'd be broke!

Honest question: who does wonder woman even lose to? Why isn't she considered top 8 anyway.

Zod and Sinestro off the top of my head. But see below for more.

What exactly is wrong with lobo, he seems like WW and Batman in terms of match-ups, right? What are his downsides?

Loses badly to aquaman and zod. Loses to sinestro, and martian slightly. Goes 5-5 with most, beats some 6-4 and destroys scorpion, ares, and joker pretty bad. At least that's the consensus.

Oh yeah shit she loses to Aquaman a LOT. She goes even with Martian though for sure.

 

[Yoaks]

So by the votes so far it goes.

#9 Wonder Woman
#10 Batman
#11 Doomsday
#12 Deathstroke
#13 Green Lantern
#14 Lobo
#16 Black Adam/Raven

 

[YOMI MITYEAP]

I see batman is ahead of DS, DD too, I dnt think that is because of them having better matchups, more bcuz of the results produced by ppl using those characters #YEEAAPPP good discussion going on, keep it up

 

[xInfra Deadx]

Hmm...interesting...where to start...

Batman? maybe.

Black Adam? Nope. Too many nerfs.

Deathstroke? Calling Sting a bill of goods? Really? Hell NO. Next.

Doomsday? Wouldn't rule it out...but...there is that one venom fueled character that got a lot of unnecessary buffs though...can't seem to put my name on it...

Green Lantern? Zoning is too big of a problem to crack the top 10. Nope.

Lobo? Nope.

Raven? As much as I like to say she's top 10 worthy, she has issues against certain characters...like Flash and Doomsday. Unfortunately this is also a nope.

Wonder Woman? Wait...is this a question? Really?

Batman and WoWo. Easy.

 

[OnlineRon91]

The Joker

 

[Amplified$hotz]

They're is no hype to be brought. It's gonna be a slaughter if the "top players" still take the game seriously.

EDIT; Matter of fact; @AK Pig Of The Hut I respect you more than most so I challenge you to a $100 money match. Trust me, I will be there and I'm gonna change this shit.

I think there was an episode of the KCP where pig said he doesn't like to take free money.

 

[Amplified$hotz]

Deathstroke is BETTER than Batman. You can't say batman without deathstroke.

No one has said this yet?

 

[Peckapowa]

Backdash, some characters can parry, YEEEAAAPPP

HAHAHA B2 is NOT 12 frames, don't even try it. 17 frames dude. 12 frames and she'd be broke!

Zod and Sinestro off the top of my head. But see below for more.

Oh yeah shit she loses to Aquaman a LOT. She goes even with Martian though for sure.

i'll gaunlet any ww with my martian, martian waxes that ass.

 

[haketh]

Deathstroke over Batman free, DS has a higher number of even & good MUs, better wakeups, better footsies, more consistent damage, better interactable control, and mixup in the corner honestly. Outside of Batman's J2 theirs really not much Mixup to Bruce. The last spot in Top 10 I wanna say Wonder Woman.

 

[Youphemism]

i'll gaunlet any ww with my martian, martian waxes that ass.

I think WoWo handles Martian fine, and I'd gladly show you that offline. Unfortunately all we have is online and I'll play you there if you like but it's going to be laggy...

 

[Amplified$hotz]

It's deathstroke doomsday or Wonderwoman.

 

[Captain Oxygen]

Lobo's definitely camping outside 10 range for me. In all honesty a lot of his losing matchups aren't too "relevant" and none of them are unwinnable.

In the future I could see tougher matches like supes, zod, mmh, etc being even.

If lobo did better against more of the top tiers besides aquaman he'd be a shoe in for
top but I think hes like 13