i am a long time fan of Sub Zero, he has been my guy since MK1, i use Grandmaster because i like the clone, i do feel his clone needs to stay on block. it doesnt feel like sub without it, keep in mind he isnt my main, i also play Erron Black, Sonya, Kung Lao, Kung Jin-shaolin, Reptile, Goro, Quan, and Shinnok, Cassie, and jacqui shotgun.
Well, first off, the SZ community should stop the whole "people are hating on SZ" - BS. Except for a handful of people nobody "hates" on the char. What some people hate though is SZ players that demand the right to cage oponents in the corner and to put the clone out whenever possible for free. And of course the permanent downplaying.
How in the hell is SZ top 5 in the game with footsies "without a doubt"...? His footsies are strong, but top 5 is grossly over-exaggerating them.
great backdash, good advancing strings, great d4. Ice clone. b3/b2. I correct the "top 5", this discussion is fruitless anyway from both sides. But still great footsies.
WOW... so you consider requesting bug fixes for SZ to be downplaying??? Just get out!
Sub Zero's slide is not 6 frames.
My bad, 9f. Either way he's full of shit if he claims to react to it up close
Then he should word it better, as it stands @DarksydeDash is spilling misinformation. The move is neutral on block, so there is no way your getting punished for it. If your so called getting punished for making a move, then don't move. You read Lao is gonna ex spin after? Block and full combo punish. Now Lao has wasted a bar, and you've conditioned him to not use ex spin in that situation. Lao is a bad example anyway, as almost all chars in the cast have to pay him a bit of extra respect due to the threat of spin. You think kotal is going to poke after? I'm assuming armored slide would beat that out, or you could block the poke, now kotal is between -5 to -10 depending on the pole and its your turn again. For the record I do think the ender could be more advantageous on hit, something like +3, similar to Cassie's regular nut punch, but saying you can't use the ender because it gets punished by some char is BS
Facepalm... you don't need to react to the slide up close genius... no decent SZ main would do slide point blank because there's way better options to use at close range.
Yeah I forgot that we gave SZ's a 6 frame armored combo starter, 50% damage combos, and some of the best block strings in the game, and we have Kung Lao Ice Clones and Slide.
Mostly just from your side dude
I was actually yet to see this until now. Someone posting a reaction time tester in lieu of an argument, to prove that they know best. Holy fuck. You are literally dumb as a rock and your opinion on anything fighting game related should be ignored by everyone.
It doesn't help when people make requests like this:
Then goes on to say that a move that's neutral on hit gets punished, which is straight bullshit, then won't even respond when he's called out on said bullshit. I have nothing against sub zero, but I do dislike when people make ridiculous requests in threads, then state false information, all the while telling people they don't know anything about the character.
I said pretty much punished in the OP, i didnt reply because I busy. Sorry for having a life outside the internet.
If you'll look above, the post I tagged you in quoted situations where you were saying you were getting flat out punished, but just in case you missed it, I'll quote it again
You also posted about 4 times after I tagged you asking how you were getting punished, all of which were ignored. Let me guess you just missed those, but saw this? Staph. There's no such thing as being pretty much punished lol, your either punished or you not
ive had iver 20 notifications from this thread so you "stahp."
As soon as you stop posting bullshit misinformation and dumb ass buff suggestions
So, the logic, that 50/50s aren't the only thing that make a character strong is retarded? Well, what can I say.
Are you trying to deny that SZ has great footsies? Just wow.
You mean an having an argument about reaction times is better than to actually test them?
0 % Content but 100% personal Insult. The community should definitely ignore me and listen more to guys like you, so we all know how stupid and retarded we are. It's alway a pleasure to talk to People with egos like a truck.
What did you expect when you strolled in here spouting dumb shit like you know anything about playing SZ.
