The Tolkeen Bait...

Discussion in 'Kenshi' started by Tolkeen, Sep 15, 2012.

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  1. Tolkeen

    Tolkeen /wrists

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    Okay guys, I wanted to make a video for this, but seeing as it's not that great AND I don't have a good camera, I'll just post something that I thought I would share. U4 has a use.

    Now most of you know that U4 is slow as hell and is really punishable on block, but whenever you hit an opponent with an U4 you are at +45 (+53 if they techroll). Now, if you haven't completely recorded the Kenshi frame data to memory, then 1) you should be in tym chat more, and 2) I will give you the info you need.
    SC has a duration of 45 frames. The fastest forward moving special in the game is 6 frames.
    "I don't get it, what does this mean?"
    This means that if you hit an opponent with an U4 you get a free sc. Because SC won't otg it will whiff, but even on whiff you will recover about the same time. (If you can't get a SC off in 5 frames you should switch characters). Now, many people (especially online players) will try to punish your whiffed special with a wakeup attack. This means, that depending on the character, you just got another full combo.
    Obviously this is not new "TECH" because it's a gimmick, and since REO didn't create it I'm sure I'll get all kinds of "NO ONE WILL FALL FOR THIS YOU ARE STUPID". And that's fine, because if you don't wakeup, you're at max sc distance, which means you just gave me ANOTHER free SC, or any other general mixup that comes from being at that range, and at the same frames as Kenshi.
    This is obviously not an everytime thing, but it's a sometime thing, and someday it may be what keeps you from getting knocked out of a tournament. So here's the full setup....
    f22b1 >> f22RK, U4
    As it comes from a f22b1 it is even more situational, and you'll be giving up about 4 or 5% to get a potential mind game. It is also not the easiest to hit U4 when you actually want it to come out, I get standing 4 a lot. So it is VERY situational, but if you want to "swag" it up, or you think your opponent is too agressive, this might be the kind of setup that reminds them that you don't need to use armor to mess up their game.

    (I've been up for 24 hours at the time of writing, if you don't like any bit of it be polite, or go die)
    Thank you.


    PS. OTHER THINGS TO NOTE!
    I can't find how long it takes for kenshi to dash, but the duration of D3 is 20 frames and the duration of d4 is 34 frames, so you have 25 frames to dash in d3 to attempt an otg/bait, or 11 frames to dash d4 to try to stuff any wakeup attempt that doesn't have armor.
  2. Pig Of The Hut

    Pig Of The Hut Kryptonian General - Kneel Before Me

    i shall play with this

    u4 is just..................sexy
    BTK HY3NA, Tolkeen and Zer0 Hundr3d like this.
  3. BTK HYENA

    BTK HYENA Fuck you; fight me.

    I've only used U4 just to swag the fuck out, but now that this is here? I has a legitimate reason. Thank you, would read again.
  4. Grolarbears

    Grolarbears Well-Known Member

    I'll be honest. It sounds like a bad porno.

    But I like the idea a lot. :p
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  5. RiBBz22

    RiBBz22 Scumbag Killer Frost / Smoke. Time Traveler. Staff Member Moderator

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  6. EGP Wonder_Chef

    EGP Wonder_Chef Earth's Mightiest Mortal (Kombat Player)

    Tolkeen I could make a video for you if you want

    just let me know what you want in it
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  7. Tolkeen

    Tolkeen /wrists

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    That would be awesome man, really all it is is do the combo, and after the u4 throw out a sc. You'll be at neutral, so if they wakeup, block it, if they late techroll, exsc or sc or f3, and if they do nothing, throw another sc just to be a dick lol.

    It's just a situational use for u4, depending on how deep in your opponents mind you are, it could be useful.
  8. TakeAChance

    TakeAChance Web Shooting Enthusiast

  9. Tolkeen

    Tolkeen /wrists

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    1) he probably already has
    2) thanks
    3) who's this ugly redneck/ anorexic lumberjack that you keep making meme's out of? I don't know if he would like a face that ugly plastered all over the internet...do you have written consent?
    4) Stop trying to troll all the time, I liked you better when you made meaningful videos and podcasts caugh *boon street* cough.
  10. TakeAChance

    TakeAChance Web Shooting Enthusiast

    I had to find a stock photo.

    My personal photo is just to sexy to make a meme out of...

    See?

    [​IMG]



    Also, LoL at anorexic lumberjack.

    More life on boon street would be wonderful, but since the majority of the community is just content with trolling, I figured I would finally cave and do the same. Why not? Trolling gets front paged like everyday around here. Can't even have an opinion anymore without pissing someone off...might as well just see the funny side I spose. Why aren't you laughing?
  11. RiBBz22

    RiBBz22 Scumbag Killer Frost / Smoke. Time Traveler. Staff Member Moderator

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    What if the meme site you are using went down. The horror!
  12. TakeAChance

    TakeAChance Web Shooting Enthusiast

    I got backups.

    Also, we better not speak of it. Evil Karma ghosts and all...
  13. LesMore

    LesMore Brooklyn Brawler of the community...

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    good shit tolkeen...
    also people should listen more to your advice and stay awy from "cheaters" who only play for money...
  14. TakeAChance

    TakeAChance Web Shooting Enthusiast

    I am generally curious as to what you define this cheating as.
  15. K.O.E_18

    K.O.E_18 Military Man

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    KARS1215
  16. GuamoKun

    GuamoKun There's A Light That Never Goes Out Staff Member Moderator

    I remember you would always do this instead of a fatality :p
  17. LesMore

    LesMore Brooklyn Brawler of the community...

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    cheating to me is playing in a tournament under someone elses gamertag
    then when getting called out about it, instead of being humble, you go into attack mode: which entails challenging anyone and everyone to " put there wallet on the table" for money matches. Like taking someones money makes you less of a cheater... no respect.
  18. Pig Of The Hut

    Pig Of The Hut Kryptonian General - Kneel Before Me

    U 4 is his only fatality
  19. Tolkeen

    Tolkeen /wrists

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    Tolkeen
    Just because you can't remember the fatality inputs doesn't mean they don't exist. If that was the case then calculus wouldn't exist, because I don't remember how it works. :)
  20. GuamoKun

    GuamoKun There's A Light That Never Goes Out Staff Member Moderator

    I remember watching EVO and yelling at my screen when you botched the fatality.

    ;_;
  21. Tolkeen

    Tolkeen /wrists

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    Tolkeen
    Because I'm the resident gentleman of TYM. I don't find this silly shenanigans humorous at all. I just wish that other people would follow suit. This is what I envision it will look like when I finally conquer the incessant trolling that plagues this site.

    [​IMG]
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  22. Lumpymoomilk

    Lumpymoomilk Online Punching Bag

    drinking tea wearing boxing gloves would be challenging.
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  23. Tolkeen

    Tolkeen /wrists

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    Bump for video explanation in the OP.

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