Seapeople
This one's for you
Oh I see. Good idea, I didn't know about the free throw after you push someone into the clone
Oh I see. Good idea, I didn't know about the free throw after you push someone into the clone
It has 28 frames of block stun.
Thats impossible, its fully dependent on where they are frozen relative to the floor, i think. Freeze a guy right above the ground and they un-freeze right away.
So 2 hits at 9 frames and then one frame after the second 2 hits?
No, 2 hits at 9 frames and the second two hits 10 frames later. That how i understand it.
Then Reptile could dash everything.
No, because you have the cancel advantage from the 22 string which is +20. So now im doing a ten frame move (second hit of 2) with +20 frame advantage, therefore you cannot elbow dash out of it. Use common sense. I know nothing about frame data, i just look at what Somberness posts and i just accept what is reasonable. Elbow dashing out of 22 is not reasonable.
I see. Nice post. I'll just wait for Somberness to reply as he is qualified for this kind of discussion.
That's exactly what Somberness will tell you. The 2nd hit of 22 has 10 frames of execution, and the cancel advantage on 2 is +20, so the 2nd hit is unavoidable.
224 clone has less push back than 212 push back. So while you can TKP a 224 clone you cannot push a 212 clone that happens to bug out and do the far push back.Wow, it looks like Sub can be interrupted by a lot of stuff.
Kenshi's spirit charge looks fast enough to punish 212~clone
Kenshi's RK, Ermac's TKS and Ermac's TKP look fast enough to punish every other ice clone string.
Freddy's hellspikes looks fast enough to punish them all except 212 or d4~clone.
On block I see 22 with +19, on hit I see +29 advantage and 59 duration. 2 is 9f and 22 is 10f.
Cool
I just want to know how long until they bust... So yes.. it is entirely possible.
Well i imagine it wouldnt be a straight up number but a mathematical relation between the height the opponent is off the ground, type of freeze, # of hits before freeze, who knows what comes into play. What im saying is that there are so many factors that can POSSIBLY affect this that you would probably have to look at the game coding rather than deciphering it from frame data. And if it is, like i suspect, a complex relation of a number of invisible in-game factors, than there would be no point on knowing the relation cause you wouldnt be able to calculate anything during the game.
99 for regular freeze until it breaks, 115 for the enhanced version.
Is this from a 212 freeze? i swear to god its different depending on the height.
I just checked by falling into it, it changes if it is lower?
From my experience, yes.
I always get the same numbers, tried 212, 224, full screen, everything.