Strategy Sonya Frame Data

[Konqrr]

Somberness, how many frames of recovery does Sonya have on a whiffed Dive Kick when she lands before she can block? Is it instant like Mileena's roll?

 

[ForeverKing]

Does her overhead F4 or MS B4/sweep give adv?

I always love your sigs

 

[Showtime]

Konqrr wiff dive kicks are definitely punishable by fast normals and specials, don't know the exact data on it tho

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[Somberness]

Somberness, how many frames of recovery does Sonya have on a whiffed Dive Kick when she lands before she can block? Is it instant like Mileena's roll?

Perfect 10 frame dive kick: 32 frame duration with 17 recovery frames on the ground.

 

[HGTV Soapboxfan]

Wow i didnt realize that sonyas standing 4 is 10 frames. I am going to have to start using that.

 

[killa_solid]

Wow i didnt realize that sonyas standing 4 is 10 frames. I am going to have to start using that.

She has no safe options off of it on block

 

[HGTV Soapboxfan]

She has no safe options off of it on block

Ehh that sucks. i still may use it to try to check opponents trying to duck my strings. catch them trying to poke out of a frame trap (maybe a hit down poke) and 4xxcartwheel. May also be able to 4xxmsxxback dash and whiff punish something with a d4. Its something that may be worthwhile

 

[killa_solid]

Ehh that sucks. i still may use it to try to check opponents trying to duck my strings. catch them trying to poke out of a frame trap (maybe a hit down poke) and 4xxcartwheel. May also be able to 4xxmsxxback dash and whiff punish something with a d4. Its something that may be worthwhile

The best thing I have found is to mix in 4 ex cw so your opponent will be on their toes in regard to trying to interrupt and punish.

 

[HGTV Soapboxfan]

The best thing I have found is to mix in 4 ex cw so your opponent will be on their toes in regard to trying to interrupt and punish.

Yeah that was the other thing I was thinking

 

[Justice]

Standing 4 is also an excellent anti-air against opponents doing deep JIPs expecting you to D4 anti-air.

 

[Somberness]

Changes:
- usual multi hit stuff and armor properties
- decreased MS4 duration by 1, also increased advantages by 1
- fixed typo with s2's duration and finally edited fastest dive kick speed with a jump included, lol

 

[Prinz]

F+1 - 15, 32 second hit | 25, 42 second hit - 17 frames gap? Somberness any REAL gap here?

 

[Somberness]

F+1 - 15, 32 second hit | 25, 42 second hit - 17 frames gap? Somberness any REAL gap here?

If there was a gap I would have listed it.
edit: Added arc wave's armor frames, would be useful if it started faster.

 

[Poto2222]

So let me see if I got this right...
In order to succesfuly connect the AirDrop after a F22xxMS, it must be done PERFECTLY?
F22 has 31 frames of advantage on hit, Military Stance's first "cancelable" frame is its 21st, and the fastest AirDrop's first active frame (already incluiding the forward jump frames) is its 10th.

So... 31-21-10=0. Am I doing this right? lol

 

[Chongo]

So let me see if I got this right...
In order to succesfuly connect the AirDrop after a F22xxMS, it must be done PERFECTLY?
F22 has 31 frames of advantage on hit, Military Stance's first "cancelable" frame is its 21st, and the fastest AirDrop's first active frame (already incluiding the forward jump frames) is its 10th.

So... 31-21-10=0. Am I doing this right? lol

Somberness

 

[Somberness]

So let me see if I got this right...
In order to succesfuly connect the AirDrop after a F22xxMS, it must be done PERFECTLY?
F22 has 31 frames of advantage on hit, Military Stance's first "cancelable" frame is its 21st, and the fastest AirDrop's first active frame (already incluiding the forward jump frames) is its 10th.

So... 31-21-10=0. Am I doing this right? lol

Yes.

 

[Poto2222]

Yes.

Good Lord...
No wonder why that shit is SO FREAKING HARD.

Thanks, man!

 

[Justice]

Somberness

I was wondering if you could do me a huge favour and double-check the block advantage frames on Kartwheel/EX Kartwheel? I could have sworn that I was told back in 2011 that the EX was +3 on block. Aside from that, I was always told that EX is safe on block and normal was not quite as safe on block but your frame data says they're the same.

 

[EGP Wonder_Chef]

Somberness

I was wondering if you could do me a huge favour and double-check the block advantage frames on Kartwheel/EX Kartwheel? I could have sworn that I was told back in 2011 that the EX was +3 on block. Aside from that, I was always told that EX is safe on block and normal was not quite as safe on block but your frame data says they're the same.

I've always head that they're both -3

 

[Justice]

I've always head that they're both -3

Thanks Chef. I wonder why people think that EX Kartwheel is safer...

 

[EGP Wonder_Chef]

Thanks Chef. I wonder why people think that EX Kartwheel is safer...

because people don't understand how to fight sonya still



also have you noticed that Somberness has been MIA for a long time? It reallys ucks...

 

[Red Reaper]

because people don't understand how to fight sonya still



also have you noticed that Somberness has been MIA for a long time? It reallys ucks...

Somberness is still busy kounting all the frames for Injustice...

 

[Justice]

because people don't understand how to fight sonya still



also have you noticed that Somberness has been MIA for a long time? It reallys ucks...

Not really. I've never known him to be very vocal on the forums. That really does suck

 

[MashPotatoTower]

D4ms cancel repeatedly is a block infinite and so on with hit advantage infinite. D4's hit low and the pressure is inescapable for all characters even mid screen. Is Sonya the best character in mk9?