Guide - Kenjutsu Aaannndddd.. We're back! Kenjutsu living guide! (Updated March 2nd, 2016)

[DarksydeDash]

Are you a Jedi Master?
Let’s get something out of the way first.This variation is far from being perfect, but with the recent changes made to Kenshi, this variation is now definitely viable and extremely dangerous. Post suggestions, discoveries, etc. below.


Pros:
-High Damage
-Full Screen punisher and frame traps
-Powerful Vortex/Reset game
-Universal Combos across all hitboxes
-Strong counter zoning
-50/50s
-Carries opponent to the corner quickly
-Able to change position at the end of combos
-One of the most satisfying brutalities to “pull” off
-Ridiculous damage output


Cons:
-All specials are unsafe
-Executional Combos (NOT ANYMORE!)
-Meter dependant
-High risk, high reward

ATTACKS
1 – front punch (fp): square on PS4, X on XB1
2 – back punch (bp): triangle on PS4, Y on XB1
3 – front kick (fk): X on PS3, A on XB1
4 – back kick (bk): Circle on PS4, B on XB1
throw - L1 on PS4, LB on XB1

DIRECTIONS
u - up
d - down
b – back (away from opponent)
f - forward (towards opponent)

JUMPS
j - jump
ji – jump in (Jump towards opponent)
nj - neutral jump (Jump directly up)
njp – neutral jump punch (neutral jump + 1/2)

OTHERS
xx - cancel
MB - indicates a meter burned version of a special/move
run – indicates a run: ff+block)


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Spoiler: Combo Starters and Frame Data Information

• Hits high
• Startup of 9 frames
• Unsafe on block at -13
• Best used as a meterless punisher
• Not special cancelable

-111

• Hits high
• Startup of 9 frames
• Unsafe on block at -10
• 11 is neutral
• Special cancelable
• Great for staggering

-B1

• Startup of 13 frames
• Hits mid
• Safe on Block at -1
• Special cancelable
• Hits twice making it easy to hitconfirm
• Best used as a whiff punisher and is his best footsie tool
• One of the damaging combo starter

-B32

• Startup of 12 frames
• Hits low
• Safe on block at -4
• Special cancelable

-F32

• Startup of 15 frames
• Hits mid
• Safe on block at -4
• Special cancelable
• Most damaging combo starter

-44

• Startup of 11 frames
• Hits high
• Easily hit confirmable
• Unsafe on block at -14
• Best used as a meterless punisher
• Special cancelable

-F2

• Startup of 18 frames
• Hits Overhead
• Unsafe on block at -15
• Special cancelable
• Deceiving range
• Hitbox extends over Kenshi's head

-421

• Startup of 11 frames
• Hits high
• Advantage on block at +2 and +4 when crouch blocked
• Hit confirmable
• Great for setting up armored reversals or whiff punishes.

Spoiler: Meterless Combos

Meterless Combos (midscreen):

114, rc, B32xxDB4/BF3 24-25%
114, rc, B1xxDB4/BF3 24-25%
114, rc ,43xxDB4/BF3 25-26 % - Nikita

111xxDB1, D1xx DB4/BF3 25-26%
111xxDB1, D1, B1xx DB4/BF3 31-32%
111xx DB1, D1, B32xDB4/BF3 32-33%


421xxDB1, D1xx DB4/BF3 25-26%
421xxDB1, D1, B1xx DB4/BF3 30%
421xx DB1, D1, B32xx 31-32%

31xxDF1 14%
31xxDB1, D1xx DB4/BF3 24%
31xxDB1, D1, B1xx DB4/BF3 29-30%
31xx DB1, D1, B32xx 30-31%


44, 111xx DB4/BF3 26%
44, 43xx DB4/BF3 26%
44, B32xx DB4/BF3 25%


F2xxDB1, D1xx DB4/BF3 30%
F2xxDB1, D1,B1xx DB4/BF3 33%
F2xx DB1, D1, B32xx 33-34%


B3xxDB1, D1xx DB4/BF3 24%
B3xxDB1, D1, B1xx DB4/BF3 28-29%
B3xx DB1, D1, B32xx 30-31%


B1xxDB1, D1xx DB4/BF3 30%
B1xxDB1, D1, B1xx DB4/BF3 333-34%
B1xx DB1, D1, B32xx 34%


F3xxDB1, D1xx DB4/BF3 26-28%
F3xxDB1, D1, B1xx DB4/BF3 34-35%
F3xx DB1, D1, B32xx DB4/BF3 35%

Spoiler: 1 Bar Combos

1 Bar (midscreen):

(Starter) MB'd DB1, NJP, B1xxDB4/BF3 31-35%

114, rc, B32xx MB'd DB4, j2, 43xxBF3 - 35-36%
114, rc, B1xxMB'd DB4, j2, 43xxBF3 - 35-36%
114, rc, F32xx MB'd DB4, j2,43xxDB4/BF3 36-37% -Nikita

111xxMB’d DF1, B1xxDB4/BF3 34-35%
111xxMB’d DF1, Run, B32xxDB4/BF3 34-35%
111xxDB1, D1xx MB DB4, J2, 43xx DB4/BF3 35-36%
111xxDB1, 111xx MB DB4, J2, 43xx DB4/BF3 38-39%
111xxDB1, 1, B32xx MB DB4, J2, 43xx DB4/BF3 40-41%


421xxMB’d DF1, B1xxDB4/BF3 34-35%
421xxMB’d DF1, Run, B32xxDB4/BF3 34-35%
421xxDB1, D1xx MB DB4, J2, 43xx DB4/BF3 36-37%
421xxDB1, 111xx MB DB4, J2, 43xx DB4/BF3 37-38%
421xxDB1, 1, B32xx MB DB4, J2, 43xx DB4/BF3 38-39%
421xx MB'd DB4, j2, b1xx DB1, D1, 43 BF3 42% -Nikita


31xxMB’d DF1, B1xxDB4/BF3 33-34%
31xxMB’d DF1, Run, B32xxDB4/BF3 33-34%
31xxDB1, D1xx MB DB4, J2, 43xx DB4/BF3 35-36%
31xxDB1, 111xx MB DB4, J2, 43xx DB4/BF3 37-38%
31xxDB1, 1, B32xx MB DB4, J2, 43xx DB4/BF3 38-39%


F2xxMB’d DF1, B1xxDB4/BF3 35-36%
F2xxMB’d DF1, Run, B32xxDB4/BF3 35-36%
F2xxDB1, D1xx MB DB4, J2, 43xx DB4/BF3 35-36%
F2xxDB1, 111xx MB DB4, J2, 43xx DB4/BF3 38-39%
F2xxDB1, 1, B32xx MB DB4, J2, 43xx DB4/BF3 40-41%


B3xxMB’d DF1, B1xxDB4/BF3 33-34%
B3xxMB’d DF1, Run, B32xxDB4/BF3 33-34%
B3xxDB1, D1xx MB DB4, J2, 43xx DB4/BF3 35-36%
B3xxDB1, 111xx MB DB4, J2, 43xx DB4/BF3 37-38%
B3xxDB1, 1, B32xx MB DB4, J2, 43xx DB4/BF3 38-39%
B32xxMB’d DB4, J2, 43xxDB4/BF3 34-35%


B1xxMB’d DF1, B1xxDB4/BF3 36-37%
B1xxMB’d DF1, Run, B32xxDB4/BF3 36-37%
B1xxDB1, D1xx MB DB4, J2, 43xx DB4/BF3 37-38%
B1xxDB1, 111xx MB DB4, J2, 43xx DB4/BF3 39-40%
B1xxDB1, 1, B32xx MB DB4, J2, 43xx DB4/BF3 42-43%


F3xxMB’d DF1, B1xxDB4/BF3 34-35%
F3xxMB’d DF1, Run, B32xxDB4/BF3 34-35%
F3xxDB1, D1xx MB DB4, J2, 43xx DB4/BF3 35-36%
F3xxDB1, 111xx MB DB4, J2, 43xx DB4/BF3 38-39%
F3xxDB1, 1, B32xx MB DB4, J2, 43xx DB4/BF3 40-41%
F32xxMB’d DB4, J2, 43xxDB4/BF3 35-36%


43xxMB’d DB4, J2, 43xxDB4/BF3 35-36%


B1xxMB’d DB4, J2, 43xxDB4/BF3 35-36%
B1xxMB’d DB4, J2, B1xxDB1, D1xxDB4/BF3 38-39%
B1xxMB’d DB4, J2, B1xxDB1,111xxDB4/BF3 42-43%
B1xxMB’d DB4, J2, B1xxDB1,1, B32xxDB4/BF3 43-44%


421xxMB’d DB4, J2, 43xxDB4/BF3 33-34%
421xxMB’d DB4, J2, B1xxDB1, D1xxDB4/BF3 36-37%
421xxMB’d DB4, J2, B1xxDB1, 111xxDB4/BF3 40-41%
421xxMB’d DB4, J2, B1xxDB1,1, B32xxDB4/BF3 41-42%


31xxMB’d DB4, J2, 43xxDB4/BF3 33-34%
31xxMB’d DB4, J2, B1xxDB1, D1xxDB4/BF3 36-37%
31xxMB’d DB4, J2, B1xxDB1, 111xxDB4/BF3 40-41%
31xxMB’d DB4, J2, B1xxDB1,1, B32xxDB4/BF3 41-42%


F2xxMB’d DB4, J2, 43xxDB4/BF3 34-35%
F2xxMB’d DB4, J2, B1xxDB1, D1xxDB4/BF3 38-39%
F2xxMB’d DB4, J2, B1xxDB1, 111xxDB4/BF3 41-42%
F2xxMB’d DB4, J2, B1xxDB1,1, B32xxDB4/BF3 42-43%


B3xxMB’d DB4, J2, 43xxDB4/BF3 33-34%
B3xxMB’d DB4, J2, B1xxDB1, D1xxDB4/BF3 36-37%
B3xxMB’d DB4, J2, B1xxDB1, 111xxDB4/BF3 40-41%
B3xxMB’d DB4, J2, B1xxDB1,1, B32xxDB4/BF3 41-42%

Spoiler: 2 Bar Combos

2 Bar (midscreen):

B1xxMB’d DF1, B1xx MB’d DB4, J2, 43xxDB4/BF3 47-48%

F2xxMB’d DF1, B1xx MB’d DB4, J2, 43xxDB4/BF3 46-47%

B3xxMB’d DF1, B1xx MB’d DB4, J2, 43xxDB4/BF3 44-45%

421xxMB’d DF1, B1xx MB’d DB4, J2, 43xxDB4/BF3 44-45%

111xxMB’d DF1, B1xx MB’d DB4, J2, 43xxDB4/BF3 45-46%

31xxMB’d DF1, B1xx MB’d DB4, J2, 43xxDB4/BF3 44-45%

Spoiler: Meterless Corner Combos

Meterless Combos (Corner):

114, 1,1,1,1,1,43xxDB4/BF3 29-30%
114, d1, njp, d2,43xx BF3 32% -Nikita

111xxDB1, D1, 1,1,1, 43xx DB4/BF3 34-35%
111xxDB1, D1, D1, D1, D1, D1, D1, 43xx DB4/BF3 36% -NIkita


421xxDB1, D1, 1,1,1, 43xx DB4/BF3 34-35%


31xxDB1, D1, 1,1,1, 43xx DB4/BF3 33%


F2xxDB1, D1, 1,1,1, 43xx DB4/BF3 34-35%


B3xxDB1, D1, 1,1,1, 43xx DB4/BF3 32-33%


B1xxDB1, D1, 1,1,1, 43xx DB4/BF3 36%


F3xxDB1, D1, 1,1,1, 43xx DB4/BF3 34-35%

Spoiler: 1 Bar Corner Combos

1 Bar (Corner):

114 1,1,1,1,1, 43xxMB'd DB4 fi2 43 DB4/BF3 35-36%
114, j3, d1, d1, d1, F32xxMB'd DB4, fi2, 43xxDB4/BF3 37-38% -Nikita

B1xxDB1, D1, 1,1,1, 43xx MB’d DB4, J2, 43xxDB4/BF3 43-44%
B1xxMB’d DF1 d1 njp d2 43xxBF3 44% - By Nikita

F2xxDB1, D1, 1,1,1, 43xx MB’d DB4, J2, 43xxDB4/BF3 42-43%

B3xxDB1, D1, 1,1,1, 43xx MB’d DB4, J2, 43xxDB4/BF3 40-41%

421xxDB1, D1, 1,1,1, 43xx MB’d DB4, J2, 43xxDB4/BF3 40-41%

111xxDB1, D1, 1,1,1, 43xx MB’d DB4, J2, 43xxDB4/BF3 42-43%

31xxDB1, D1, 1,1,1, 43xx MB’d DB4, J2, 43xxDB4/BF3 41-42%


B1xxMB’d DF1, 1,1,1,1,1, 43xxDB4/BF3 41-42%

F2xxMB’d DF1, 1,1,1,1,1, 43xxDB4/BF3 38-39%

B3xxMB’d DF1, 1,1,1,1,1, 43xxDB4/BF3 38-39%

421xxMB’d DF1, 1,1,1,1,1, 43xxDB4/BF3 39-40%

111xxMB’d DF1, 1,1,1,1, 1, 43xxDB4/BF3 39-40%

31xxMB’d DF1, 1,1,1,1, 1, 43xxDB4/BF3 38-39%

Spoiler: 2 Bar Corner Combos

2 Bar (Corner):

B1xxMB’d DF1, 1,1,1,1,1, 43xx MB’d DB4, J2, 43xxDB4/BF3 47-48%
B1xxMB’d DF1 d1 njp d2 F32 MB'd DB4 ji2 43xxBF3 48% - By Nikita

F2xxMB’d DF1, 1,1,1,1,1, 43xx MB’d DB4, J2, 43xxDB4/BF3 46-47%

B3xxMB’d DF1, 1,1,1,1,1, 43xx MB’d DB4, J2, 43xxDB4/BF3 44-45%

421xxMB’d DF1, 1,1,1,1,1, 43xx MB’d DB4, J2, 43xxDB4/BF3 44-45%

111xxMB’d DF1, 1,1,1,1,1, 43xx MB’d DB4, J2, 43xxDB4/BF3 45-46%

31xxMB’d DF1, 1,1,1,1,1, 43xx MB’d DB4, J2, 43xxDB4/BF3 44-45%

Visual example of Nikita's Corner Combos:

Spoiler: X-Ray Combos

X-Ray corner and midscreen:

Starter, xxDB1, 1, B32xx X-Ray 47-50%

Spoiler: Movement and Run Game

Movement and Run Game:
Kenshi's movement is Mortal Kombat X is about similar to the rest of the roster.
His walk speed is slightly above average letting him switch from forward to backward or vice versa rather quickly. Forward dash covers decent space but honestly you won't use it too often. Something worth noting is his backdash: DON'T USE IT. It covers no range, has long startup, and his walk speed does the job better. His run however is above average and setups his run game nicely, which can be extremely strong in Kenjutsu when mixed up properly.

Anywhere ranging from full to midscreen, Kenshi can set up his game. His run game allows him to fake or commit into rushdown. Here are Kenshi's run game options:

-BF2 Tele-Push

• Best used for a short run distance to fake rushdown and punish your opponent for whiffing normals. Has great range and MB'd version has armor.

-Throw

• Great way to punish your opponent when you have them conditioned to block your other options. Kenshi's throw sends opponents full screen as well, allowing for you to set up your run game once more while pushing your opponent to the corner. Be warned however as your opponent can stick out pokes, neutral jump/ crouch, and of course armor through your through attempts.

-50/50 using B3 or F2

• Running up with Kenjutsu's 50/50s can win you the game if your opponent guesses wrong. Both F2 and and B3 have great range and F2 can even catch jump backs while B3 can sometimes catch backdashes. You can also use a S1 which is plus on block into one of these options to frame trap your opponent. This option can easily be countered with delayed wakeup if your opponent is knocked down, neutral jumped or jump over/back in general, armored, and F2 can be thrown out of its startup. Pokes will also stop this.

-Max ranged DF1

• Although unsafe on block at -10, when properly spaced DF1 becomes unpunishable on block. Most characters can backdash, armor, poke, or jump

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Spoiler: Vortex and Reset game

Kenjutsu’s Vortex and Reset game:


At the cost of a bar, Tele-slam (DB4), restands the opponent and can be comboed into off the majority of his combo strings. From there, the player can shorten the combo by ending with a jump in normal and a D1. Kenshi’s D1 grants a large amount of hit advantage (+18) and allows him to go for a 50/50, either by using F2, B3, 311, or 31xxdf1. Your opponent cannot, armor through (unless using F2) or backdash so the opponent must guess. When in the corner, use D4 for more hit advantage to prevent your opponent from armoring out. You can also spend an extra bar for a MB'd throw to be +25 on hit, and keep the opponent standing if they were airborne.


Now obviously, this vortex isn’t nearly as strong as say Quan-Chi’s, as if they guess right you are FULL COMBO PUNISHABLE. However, one wrong guess is over 50% of health loss for the opponent by spending one bar. Also, if you happen to have 2-3 bars and your opponent guesses wrong all times, the round is over. Period.



Video showcasing the damage of 1-3 reps of Kenjutsu’s vortex:

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Spoiler: Armored Reversals and Pressure

Kenjutsu’s armored reversal and Pressure:


Like all his other variations, Kenshi has multiple specials that can be used after any string -5 or higher for a powerful frame trap. The one thing that sets this variation’s armored specials apart from his other variations is the giant damage difference he receives thanks to his new buffs and the ability to decide where you want your opponent by either ending with BF3 or DB4. As mentioned in the cons, all of Kenjutsu’s specials are unsafe so again it is a gambling game. The idea is to condition your opponent into thinking you will armor reversal as soon as you have a bar. Once this is established, Kenshi can continue pressure by going with either 421 for more plus frames, or go for a 50/50 using B3, F2, or 311/ 31xxDf1. Throwing is also an option.


Kenjutsu’s Armored Reversal Punishers (must be MB'd):


-DB1 A.K.A Rising Sword

• Starts up at 16 frames.
• Unsafe at -12
• Can be followed up with other (meter burned) specials for unbreakable damage
• Leads to a full combo.
• Great for anti-airing, especially against neutral jumps.

-DF1 A.K.A Spinning Blade

• Starts up at 14 Frames.
• Unsafe at -10.
• Hits overhead.
• Followed up midscreen using B1, or running into B32.
• Over 40% in the corner
• Can stuff wakeups
• Can spend a 2nd bar for vortex or more damage
• Decent chip (nearly 5%)

-BF3 A.K.A. Tele-Toss

• Starts up at 15 Frames
• Unsafe at -15
• Hitbox extends across entire screen
• Great for counter zoning by armoring through projectiles
• Can be low profiled/neutral ducked
• Switches sides, great for placing opponent in the corner
• Can be used for anti-air

-BF2 A.K.A Tele-Push

• Fastest armored reversal at 12 frames
• Unsafe at -14
• Fairly safe against most of the cast due to large pushback
• Knocks opponent down and nearly fullscreen
• least damaging armored reversal

Armored reversal demonstration:

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Spoiler: Fullscreen Frame trap and Specials punishable by Tele-Toss (WIP)

Fullscreen frame trap after Reflect:


After reflecting a projectile back to the opponent, they must respect the Tele-Toss. Normally the opponent can neutral duck the Tele-Toss, but after the reflect, they are forced to block because of their projectile being sent back to them. If it hits, the Tele-Toss combos, leading anywhere from 17-25% based on if your opponent MB’d their projectile. If the opponent jumps catch them on their landing recovery.


Specials punishable by Tele-Toss on block or reaction from fullscreen (WIP):

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Match Footage/Tournament Play:

Spoiler: Tips and Advice

Tips and Advice:

• Jump back 1 is an amazing tool. Use it to counter jump ins, punish advancing strings, frustrate your opponent, and setup your run game.

• Standing 1 can be used to anti-air but your best anti-air is B4 or D1. This lowers your hitbox greatly to the point cross-ups will be trip guarded and ends with a hard knockdown that can set up your 50/50s if your opponent is close enough.

• D4xxBF2 is a great footsie tool. If your opponent is hit or blocks the D4, they must block the push. The pushback is enough for you to react to jump ins and anti air with either NJP, Jump back 1, an armored reversal, or B4. At the same time, you are also in range to whiff punish using B1, your most damaging starter. Be sure to hit confirm this normal or keep it semi-safe with BF2. You can also run up grab.

• Always buffer Tele-Toss! It is important to know your matchups and react to risky moves by your opponent. For example: Sub-Zero can be punished ANYWHERE for throwing out an ice clone using BF3. Characters like Kung Lao or Scorpion can be grabbed out of teleport on reaction as well. Erron Black’s gun specials in Marksman or Gunslinger, as well as caltrops, are also not safe. Study frame data startup and advantage on block to know what you can punish on block or reaction. DO NOT THROW THIS MOVE OUT CONSTANTLY, IT CAN BE NEUTRAL DUCKED AND YOU WILL BE FULLSCREEN PUNISHED.

• It is important to know gaps in your opponent's strings. Now that Kenshi's parry can parry physical attacks, you can punish most strings in the game without having to armor through!

Example:

• DB4 as an ender places opponent in perfect range of a F2 and D4. Conditioning your opponent to block low and come in with a F2 as a tricky mixup.

• Use S1 to bait movement and whiff punish. S1 recovers very quickly giving you time to check your opponent with BF3 (best used midscreen or farther), or BF2 when in range.

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Community Additions:

• This section is for tech, combos, and video footage of anything relating to Kenjutsu by the FGC worth noting.

Kenjutsu video guide by Pig of the Hut:

 

[MrProfDrPepper]

i will read all this through later but thanks for the kenjutsu combos and tech in the future since Im actually starting to branch out from just balanced kenshi and learning both kenjutsu and possessed, still maining balanced though

 

[DevilMaySpy]

PRETTY COLORS!!! I mean yeah, great guide! Stickied

 

[Scott The Scot]

Pig if you are reading this, this guide is so you don't have to do all the work.

Pig of The Hut replies: Yo fuck you man. Seriously fuck you. I'm almost done with my guide and then you come along and post this shit. Gots damn it.

 

[DarksydeDash]

Pig of The Hut replies: Yo fuck you man. Seriously fuck you. I'm almost done with my guide and then you come along and post this shit. Gots damn it.

Hey this is only for Kenjutsu (my personal favorite variation). Pig and Blackula can make one for Possessed or Balanced. I'm pretty sure Pig has balanced down to a T. Also, Pig is the Kenshi father, if anything he will probably add on to this with some broken tech in the future. Of that, I am sure. B)

 

[MrProfDrPepper]

Hey this is only for Kenjutsu (my personal favorite variation). Pig and Blackula can make one for Possessed or Balanced. I'm pretty sure Pig has balanced down to a T.

I am already working on a balanced one damn it XD

 

[DarksydeDash]

I am already working on a balanced one damn it XD

Yay! Now Pig is going to be so relieved!

 

[MrProfDrPepper]

Yay! Now Pig is going to be so relieved!

well I have been playing balanced kenshi since day 1, and i have an entire thread dedicated to finding all the tech possible with balanced kenshi, also im pretty sure he has me blocked since the first week i spammed the fuck out of tagging him since i had so many questions for him since he was the only kenshi player i really knew about, my fault really and understandable why he would block me, oh well.

 

[GoddessKhrystelle]

Oh Myyy, that's a lot

 

[DarksydeDash]

well I have been playing balanced kenshi since day 1, and i have an entire thread dedicated to finding all the tech possible with balanced kenshi, also im pretty sure he has me blocked since the first week i spammed the fuck out of tagging him since i had so many questions for him since he was the only kenshi player i really knew about, my fault really and understandable why he would block me, oh well.

I've been all 3 variations day one. xD I'm sorry to hear that Pig blocked you, it might have been better to have messaged him instead of tagging him.

 

[MrProfDrPepper]

I've been all 3 variations day one. xD I'm sorry to hear that Pig blocked you, it might have been better to have messaged him instead of tagging him.

i was new to tym so i didnt know how shit worked, as i said, my fault, i deserved it. and from day one i have been exclusively balanced since that is the one i was most comfortable with, i like to think i am one of the better balanced kenshi players but that is just a dream

 

[makkator]

Thanks for the guide! Much appreciated!

Still it would be helpfull if you would write down which Combos are used best in the what Situation. I know all these Combos exist, but which one is safe or THE bnb to go for?

Also what is his best Starter for hit confirms?

Is the d1, 11 link after db1 worth to lesen online or too inconsistent?

Thanks!

 

[DarksydeDash]

Thanks for the guide! Much appreciated!

Still it would be helpfull if you would write down which Combos are used best in the what Situation. I know all these Combos exist, but which one is safe or THE bnb to go for?

Also what is his best Starter for hit confirms?

Is the d1, 11 link after db1 worth to lesen online or too inconsistent?

Thanks!

His best starters for hitconfirms are 421, and 111. Also all of these combos are practical and can be used in all situations due to his 50/50s. Its all about what the damage you want, your level of execution, and how much bar you are willing to spend. The links after DB1, are significantly more easier than how they were, but the S1 link can be difficult for most. Use D1 if you are scared to drop it.

 

[Paul the Octopus]

His best starters for hitconfirms are 421, and 111. Also all of these combos are practical and can be used in all situations due to his 50/50s. Its all about what the damage you want, your level of execution, and how much bar you are willing to spend. The links after DB1, are significantly more easier than how they were, but the S1 link can be difficult for most. Use D1 if you are scared to drop it.

Nice guide!

May or may not be worth mentioning but just wanted to add that you can also end your meterless combos with down 2 after the db1 and it does the same (or 1% less max) damage as the d1 and 111 enders, but it's quite a bit easier. You have one more frame to do it compared to 111 and its fewer inputs than the d1 ender. I hardly ever miss the d2 ender but am inconsistent with the others so tend to do d2 online.

By the way, can you option select the 50/50 to make it safe somehow?

 

[Metzos]

I would like to add something. I ve been whiffing standing 1's while zoning, since it has great recovery on whiff to frustrate and bait my opponents and after that, check them with bf3 (or if they are in range, bf2). It has worked really well for me so far.

Just wanted to let you Kenshi guys know.

 

[Nikita]

corner combos can be better.
for example: B1xxMB’d DF1 d1 njp d2 43xxBF3
or
B1xxMB’d DF1 d1 njp d2 F32 MB'd DB4 ji2 43xxBF3

And instead
111xxDB1, D1, 1,1,1, 43xx DB4/BF3 34-35%
u can better
111xxDB1, D1, D1, D1, D1, D1, D1, 43xx DB4/BF3

otherwise a good guide, thx

 

[I GOT HANDS]

A lot of these combo's are off by a couple of percentages I think. No biggy tho.


So anyway, does anyone out there actually use D1, B32 as their link after a DF1, even for local play?

I mean I can hit 111 everytime, but D1,B32 seems like a crazy small link

 

[Falkunn]

Good shit. You saved me a lot of mental strain going through everything.

Just out of curiosity though, in your professional opinion, what MUs do you think Kenjutsu would work over Balanced? All I see it as, is a riskier but rewarding rushdown in a way. But it also has good space control. I'm somewhat reluctant to play Kenjutsu in tournament anytime soon, as I only seem to struggle with Quan Chi and Scorpion as Balanced. Most the time, I'll switch to Possessed for Scorpion, but I'm working on a pocket character for those MUs as opposed to putting in a hell of a lot of work with Kenshi to try and win it. I have VSFighting coming up in the UK around early August (It's a major), and I guess if Kenjutsu is worth putting extensive time into to get the muscle memory and everything mastered, then I will. Otherwise I won't bother and just stick with Balanced + maybe Erron Black for my bad matchups.

But all in all, this is a good thread, I'm glad I came across it. Keep it up!

 

[Nikita]

A lot of these combo's are off by a couple of percentages I think. No biggy tho.


So anyway, does anyone out there actually use D1, B32 as their link after a DF1, even for local play?

I mean I can hit 111 everytime, but D1,B32 seems like a crazy small link

after 3 days trening i do (F32 after DB1 d1). But I found an easier way for 42% damage. 421 exDB4 fj2 b1 DB1 43 BF3 instead 421 DB1 D1 F32 exDB4 fj2 43 BF3​

 

[I GOT HANDS]

after 3 days trening i do (F32 after DB1 d1). But I found an easier way for 42% damage.
421 exDB4 fj2 b1 DB1 43 BF3

instead 421 DB1 D1 F32 exDB4 fj2 43 BF3​

That first one doesn't work dude

 

[DarksydeDash]

Good shit. You saved me a lot of mental strain going through everything.

Just out of curiosity though, in your professional opinion, what MUs do you think Kenjutsu would work over Balanced? All I see it as, is a riskier but rewarding rushdown in a way. But it also has good space control. I'm somewhat reluctant to play Kenjutsu in tournament anytime soon, as I only seem to struggle with Quan Chi and Scorpion as Balanced. Most the time, I'll switch to Possessed for Scorpion, but I'm working on a pocket character for those MUs as opposed to putting in a hell of a lot of work with Kenshi to try and win it. I have VSFighting coming up in the UK around early August (It's a major), and I guess if Kenjutsu is worth putting extensive time into to get the muscle memory and everything mastered, then I will. Otherwise I won't bother and just stick with Balanced + maybe Erron Black for my bad matchups.

But all in all, this is a good thread, I'm glad I came across it. Keep it up!

First off I can you right now that inferno Scorpion and Marksman Erron Black can't do anything against this variation. Their zoning is completely useless. Dont even get me started on how pitiful it is for Sub Zero Grandmaster and All variations of Kotal Kahn. They cant move! No clone, no totem, no sword toss, etc. Brood mother D'Virah is pretry bad too because you can reflect her crawler and go run in FULLSCREEN for a MB'd Spinning Blade in they decide to block for an unblockable. That's just some I've noticed. I will eventually add match up information but I think I'd rather dicuss some things with Pig to get a solid result.

 

[DarksydeDash]

A lot of these combo's are off by a couple of percentages I think. No biggy tho.


So anyway, does anyone out there actually use D1, B32 as their link after a DF1, even for local play?

I mean I can hit 111 everytime, but D1,B32 seems like a crazy small link

Yeah some I accidently did jump ins..

 

[Falkunn]

First off I can you right now that inferno Scorpion and Marksman Erron Black can't do anything against this variation. Their zoning is completely useless. Dont even get me started on how pitiful it is for Sub Zero Grandmaster and All variations of Kotal Kahn. They cant move! No clone, no totem, no sword toss, etc. Brood mother D'Virah is pretry bad too because you can reflect her crawler and go run in FULLSCREEN for a MB'd Spinning Blade in they decide to block for an unblockable. That's just some I've noticed. I will eventually add match up information but I think I'd rather dicuss some things with Pig to get a solid result.

The only one I would struggle against is Inferno Scorpion out of the characters you mentioned. Balanced Kenshi does perfectly fine annihilating the others. Especially GM Sub. Example:

 

[DarksydeDash]

The only one I would struggle against is Inferno Scorpion out of the characters you mentioned. Balanced Kenshi does perfectly fine annihilating the others. Especially GM Sub. Example:

If ypu block any of Scorpion's mknions you can punish with teletoss. Also Im pretty sure we can all agreed everything about kenshi wrecks sub zero.

 

[DarksydeDash]

A lot of these combo's are off by a couple of percentages I think. No biggy tho.


So anyway, does anyone out there actually use D1, B32 as their link after a DF1, even for local play?

I mean I can hit 111 everytime, but D1,B32 seems like a crazy small link

I use standing 1