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Juicy: Which players are carried or held back by their main?

16 Bit

Mash d+1~Cat Claws
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Here are the current top 20 Injustice players according to the prestigious SRK rankings. Which of these players do you think are carried by their main and which ones are held back by their main? Perhaps it's a bit of both. Explain your opinions if you can.

1. Sonic Fox
2. Theo
3. Jupiter
4. Forever King
5. KDZ
6. 16 Bit
7. Pig of the Hut
8. Perfect Legend
9. Whiteboi
10. Wound Cowboy
11. Honeybee
12. Pimpimjim
13. Darth Arma
14. Chris G
15. Rico Suave
16. DJT
17. Blind Ducky
18. Tyrant
19. MIT
20. Biohazard
 

juicepouch

blink-182 enthusiast
Held back: Tyrant

he fought Forever King Jr in Grundy/Bane at UFGT and I think that does a good job encapsulating his struggles character wise. Obviously a phenomenal player but every so often a Grundy can run into a matchup that just is hell against another great player, especially if they're familiar with grundy shenanigans. I'd say the same for you 16 bit and also revolver and ducky too, playing one character exclusively lends itself to a high probability of running into death matches like that
 

Laos_boy

Meow Hoes
I wouldn't say they are being carried by the character, they compliment the player so well.
Thei and Aquaman aquaman is the ultimatedefensive footsies character that can hold back all day. And theo is good at that
Sonic fox and batgirl.
He did player harley and didn't really do well. But I don't think he understood the game back then. Batgirl is a super intimidating 50/50 set ups character. And sonic fox loves his gimmicks and set ups. That's what makes him intimidating. And if you don't undersatnd batgirls neutr game like he does. Put the control down
 
This topic may be too hot to handle. I'll just give my opinion of the top 3 because I want to be boring and play it safe.

The top 3 on the list will be fine in any fighting game they play. They will search out the character that fits them and is mid/high tier. They are successful not because of their character. Or if they are, give them props for figuring out top tier, AND also figuring out how to master top tier in a 30 matchup based game.
 
I would say rico suave, tyrant and 16 bit. Pimpimjim doesn't really play top tier but he has multiple characters that he plays so does that count? Imo PL and Mit are held back because the game maybe just doesn't have a character that fits them perfectly.
 

Pig Of The Hut

Day 0 Phenomenal Dr. Fate and Darkseid player
Here are the current top 20 Injustice players according to the prestigious SRK rankings. Which of these players do you think are carried by their main and which ones are held back by their main? Perhaps it's a bit of both. Explain your opinions if you can.

1. Sonic Fox
2. Theo
3. Jupiter
4. Forever King
5. KDZ
6. 16 Bit
7. Pig of the Hut
8. Perfect Legend
9. Whiteboi
10. Wound Cowboy
11. Honeybee
12. Pimpimjim
13. Darth Arma
14. Chris G
15. Rico Suave
16. DJT
17. Blind Ducky
18. Tyrant
19. MIT
20. Biohazard
Juicy 2 wants to know


Who exactly on this list has PAID DER "DEWS" ???
 

Somea2V

Thread Referee
Nope that's what this thread is about. If you feel it, say it.
Sorry, wasn't sure if I could get away without having paid my "dews". :)

But honestly, I never understood the hype of Sonic Fox and Theo. Theo seems like a cool guy, but he uses basically the best fundamental character in the game. And Sonic uses a virtually safe, multi-layered vortex character with insane and easy corner damage coupled with a nigh-instantaneous teleport that is safe on whiff (because who is dumb enough to use it when it could be blocked) and a fast, multi-hitting special that is also virtually safe and requires a bit of guessing.

I just... to contrast, look at Jupiter. It would be unfair to say that Sonic Fox and Jupiter haven't both innovated and made it very clear they are the best at their relative characters. But where as Sonic's tools are fairly easy to learn and require a semblance of fundamentals, we see Jupiter actively doing different tactics to tackle different situations. He adapts on the fly with more than just picking a new vortex start and slightly changing the timing. And, while Martian does have a phenomenal tool set, he really isn't this easy-mode character when compared to Batgirl. Otherwise, why haven't we seen a slew of other Martian Manhunter champions. Has there been any others who've won a major or regional aside from Jupiter?

It just seems like this community has bought this insane bill that Martian Manhunter is broke without trying and Sonic Fox is this amazing player and champion because, even though he uses he uses a great if not the best character, it isn't MMH.

Anyway, sorry for the late-night rant. If this is thread-derailing or not in the spirit of the OP, please delete or edit or remand if necessary. I apologize if it is.
 

Flagg

Noob
King doesnt have a main and the fact he hard counters everyone suggests he is being carried by the whole cast lol! I mean counter picking Grundy!? C'mon!

Still ppl gotta do what they gotta do to win I guess.
 

Somea2V

Thread Referee
King doesnt have a main and the fact he hard counters everyone suggests he is being carried by the whole cast lol! I mean counter picking Grundy!? C'mon!

Still ppl gotta do what they gotta do to win I guess.
That's a very good point. Yet it pains me because I like King. It does seem like King relies on the counter-pick while PL genuinely seems to use the character he feels most comfortable with in a match-up, even if it isn't a necessarily advantageous.
 

SneakyTortoise

Official Master of Salt
Darth arma is being held back. Before people attack me for downplaying let me explain. How many times have we seen him get eliminated from a tournament by aquaman? That match is horrific for batman and I genuinely think if he had put more work in with bane as a secondary he would be fine, but he likes being a character specialist.
Also, I can only imagine his face when he sees people saying Rico lol
 

ThaShiveGeek

Est In Harvey 1989
For me its hard to not slightly dislike Sonic Foxx as a player only because of the Joker remarks. The man uses Batgirl like a demi Godess. Her tools are silly, but he also wins 2 and 3 other games at the same tournaments so that in itself proves that its not the character. Its him. He is the undisputed best NRS player this past year.
 

Pig Of The Hut

Day 0 Phenomenal Dr. Fate and Darkseid player
Darth arma is being held back. Before people attack me for downplaying let me explain. How many times have we seen him get eliminated from a tournament by aquaman? That match is horrific for batman and I genuinely think if he had put more work in with bane as a secondary he would be fine, but he likes being a character specialist.
Also, I can only imagine his face when he sees people saying Rico lol
Arma should have kept up w bane or ZOD as a secondary

Bane IMO would fit his needs best
 

Pan1cMode

AUS FGC represent!
Sorry, wasn't sure if I could get away without having paid my "dews". :)

But honestly, I never understood the hype of Sonic Fox and Theo. Theo seems like a cool guy, but he uses basically the best fundamental character in the game. And Sonic uses a virtually safe, multi-layered vortex character with insane and easy corner damage coupled with a nigh-instantaneous teleport that is safe on whiff (because who is dumb enough to use it when it could be blocked) and a fast, multi-hitting special that is also virtually safe and requires a bit of guessing.

I just... to contrast, look at Jupiter. It would be unfair to say that Sonic Fox and Jupiter haven't both innovated and made it very clear they are the best at their relative characters. But where as Sonic's tools are fairly easy to learn and require a semblance of fundamentals, we see Jupiter actively doing different tactics to tackle different situations. He adapts on the fly with more than just picking a new vortex start and slightly changing the timing. And, while Martian does have a phenomenal tool set, he really isn't this easy-mode character when compared to Batgirl. Otherwise, why haven't we seen a slew of other Martian Manhunter champions. Has there been any others who've won a major or regional aside from Jupiter?

It just seems like this community has bought this insane bill that Martian Manhunter is broke without trying and Sonic Fox is this amazing player and champion because, even though he uses he uses a great if not the best character, it isn't MMH.

Anyway, sorry for the late-night rant. If this is thread-derailing or not in the spirit of the OP, please delete or edit or remand if necessary. I apologize if it is.
Who are the other BGs who are placing?

Your assertion that she is an easy mode character is demonstrably false as no one but sonicfox has been able to achieve anything with her in America.

Yes batgirl is an insanely good character, no I don't think she's the best (not with AM and MMH in the game).



Also, I'd point out that sonic fox used Sonya in MK9 and was still formidable (placing high in 2014 EVO iirc).
 

Insuperable

My mom tells me I'm pretty
1. Sonic Fox - Batgirl
2. Theo - Aquaman
3. Jupiter - Martian Manhunter
4. Forever King - Batman
5. KDZ - Superman
6. 16 Bit - Catwoman
7. Pig of the Hut - Zod
8. Perfect Legend - Batman
9. Whiteboi - Doomsday
10. Wound Cowboy - Sinestro
11. Honeybee - Flash
12. Pimpimjim - Hawkgirl
13. Darth Arma - Batman
14. Chris G - Green Arrow
15. Rico Suave - Black Adam
16. DJT - Green Lantern
17. Blind Ducky - Raven
18. Tyrant - Grundy
19. MIT - Deathstroke
20. Biohazard - Bane

w0w so diverse. Only Batman repeats, but two of them play 3-5 other characters as well. Looks like no one is better or worse than what their character is capable of :cool::cool::cool::cool:
 

Pig Of The Hut

Day 0 Phenomenal Dr. Fate and Darkseid player
1. Sonic Fox - Batgirl
2. Theo - Aquaman
3. Jupiter - Martian Manhunter
4. Forever King - Batman
5. KDZ - Superman
6. 16 Bit - Catwoman
7. Pig of the Hut - Zod
8. Perfect Legend - Batman
9. Whiteboi - Doomsday
10. Wound Cowboy - Sinestro
11. Honeybee - Flash
12. Pimpimjim - Hawkgirl
13. Darth Arma - Batman
14. Chris G - Green Arrow
15. Rico Suave - Black Adam
16. DJT - Green Lantern
17. Blind Ducky - Raven
18. Tyrant - Grundy
19. MIT - Deathstroke
20. Biohazard - Bane

w0w so diverse. Only Batman repeats, but two of them play 3-5 other characters as well. Looks like no one is better or worse than what their character is capable of :cool::cool::cool::cool:
 

Error404

Noob
I wouldn't say that someone is only really good because of their character, but 16 bit , tyrant and probably revolver are being held back hard. Especially tyrant . If he dropped that bill of a character that is grundy he would have some impressive results.