Question How good is d4

Discussion in 'Kitana' started by Laos_boy, Sep 17, 2012.

  1. Laos_boy

    Laos_boy Tech Monster

    I think this move is underrated
    I sometimes use it more than d1
    and i like that it jails to fake out Kick

    The only things that i dont like about it is the it:
    - Looks dumb
    - And it raises her crouching Hitbox...

    What do yall think of this move?
  2. DJ L Toro

    DJ L Toro Well-Known Member

    It's real dumb. d3 is better imo. the hitbox thing is a really big issue.
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  3. AK RM Blake

    AK RM Blake Guardian from the Night Staff Member Premium Supporter

  4. MK9-SnOwY

    MK9-SnOwY Finland, Bro.

    Eh SnOwY
    mehhh, its Alright i guess but D1 > all
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  5. GGA 16 Bit

    GGA 16 Bit Mash d+1~Cat Claws

    It's pretty good. It has the range of d+1 and juicy advantage on hit. You get a mixup of f+2,1/throw. I use it on wakeup a lot against characters with vulnerable wakeup attacks.
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  6. Espio

    Espio Sonic Staff Member

    Down 4 fakeout kick <3.
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  7. STB Sgt Reed

    STB Sgt Reed Online Warrior

    Not as good as Sub's.
  8. Squeaker101

    Squeaker101 As I live, ALL will die

    Looks weird, but I've had it used against me.

    How's the range on it? GGA 16 Bit Sonya Blake MK9-SnOwY The only reason I ask is because someone actually used it effectively against me.
  9. GGA 16 Bit

    GGA 16 Bit Mash d+1~Cat Claws

    It has hella range. More than it looks. It's on par with her d+1.
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  10. Playpal

    Playpal Well-Known Member

    Second longest d4 in the game behind sonya and mileena.
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  11. Wemfs

    Wemfs Child of the night

    Say what? :confused:
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  12. Espio

    Espio Sonic Staff Member

    Kitana is the low poke queen, every poke she has is marvelous in one way or another lol.
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  13. Axel_Redd

    Axel_Redd Vampire Jesus....he wants YOUR blood now!!

    lol, i've started using it the exact same way xD, on hit i'll dash in an b33 cutter, or b33, d1 pretty kick or cutter or throw after 11,33, or b33. Or even just a naked throw.
  14. AK RM Blake

    AK RM Blake Guardian from the Night Staff Member Premium Supporter

    There's your answer, Squeaker.

    ...and I don't know what's up with all the troll posts here...we should be giving accurate information, guys.
  15. GGA 16 Bit

    GGA 16 Bit Mash d+1~Cat Claws

    What troll posts? Why are you calling it meaningless?

    I don't know what's going on here, are you accusing me of trolling or posting bad Kitty info? Her d+4 is seriously a decent move. I'm not kidding about the range.
  16. AK RM Blake

    AK RM Blake Guardian from the Night Staff Member Premium Supporter

    With all due respect, do you know how often I see Kitana's d4 being used? Almost never. The range isn't all that great. You typically see her d1 poke being abused.

    If you name me perfectly reasonable ways her d4 can be used - which I don't doubt you can do given your reputation as a Kitana player - I'll eat my own words.
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  17. MashPotatoTower

    MashPotatoTower Well-Known Member

    Honestly broke as hell. Sonya players get out of here! D4 ms doesn't stuff my 7 frame punnish at neutral Or duck under fucking overheads! Also I believe her d4 is the smallest hurt box in the game compaired to Sonya's which her entire leg is a big long hurt box easly punishable full combo. The way I see it mileena still has the best d4 by a little
    Oh they will tell you " but Sonya gets free 6% chip" and " the block stun is off the scales!" and " that d4 range " but hey you gotta lift one brow at all the fancy tournament resualts it's got them. No it didn't get deleted when tym went down. There just isn't any!

    Edit: whoops not the mileena forums... Kitana has a way decent d4!
  18. GGA 16 Bit

    GGA 16 Bit Mash d+1~Cat Claws

    I didn't say abuse it. It's not godlike. It's just a pretty good move. The range is far. Test it. Don't go by appearances. It reaches more than you think. The real issue with it is speed.

    I've already given a way to use it. On wakeup. It's good if they have high wakeup attacks that get stuffed by lows. Kitana herself in the mirror is a good example. You get a lot more advantage off a d+4 hitting than a d+3.

    I have used this move many times on stream and have talked about it being underrated on the forums.
  19. AK RM Blake

    AK RM Blake Guardian from the Night Staff Member Premium Supporter

    I guess I missed the streams where it was used. :oops:

    All right, I will give it a shot and get back to you on what I think. Thanks for sharing.
  20. Verstande

    Verstande Well-Known Member

    does b33 cutter jail?
  21. aj1701

    aj1701 Premium Supporter Premium Supporter

    I've actually been using it in my game. A d4 following a d1 gives perfect spacing for f21, or. Even d4 by itself.

    I didn't know about throwing after, but I've gotten a decent number of people in to her bnb.
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  22. BoysBoysBoys

    BoysBoysBoys Active Member

    D4 is 0 on block does 3% damage and has +16 advantage., D1 is -15 does 1% and has -1 advantage.

    D4 is classy. ❤
  23. Mr_Swizzer

    Mr_Swizzer The Best

    Mr Swizzer
    Its good to end a game with d4 if your both close.

    I think kabals d4 cancel is good in frames as well i cant remember.
  24. Espio

    Espio Sonic Staff Member

    I'm not trolling...I use her down 4 when I play Kitana and do well with her. Her down 4 is NOT bad nor is it worthless/meaningless.

    It's another good poke she has, though underutilized and unlike down 1 or down 3, you're not at disadvantage so you won't get caught in pressure or potentially comboed by certain normals on block.
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  25. BillStickers

    BillStickers Well-Known Member

    Yes. b33 cutter jails on stand block and on hit.
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