It's random if it's blocked and its a good read if it hits, either way i just call it random.
No sir. But you seem to be under the impression that F41 is supposed to whiff on crouch block? I mean yeah, F413 is a pretty badly designed string in the first place but it still hits Scorpion who has a pretty average sized hitbox and nothing else hits him that shouldn't. There's only a handful of characters who's crouch blocking hitbox is so big to the point where everything will hit them in crouch block (Raiden, Kenshi, Sheeva, Noob Saibot, Freddy etc.) and LBSH, F413 is hitting way more characters than that. I understand why it's a problem for Smoke because he doesn't seem to have an answer for it, nor abuse the holes in his other pressure tools, but to say it's bad just because "F413 hits" is weak, it's a core asset to his footsies and you should be fully expected to make a good read work for a way out.
That isn't the core point to why the MU is bad though, that was just the icing on the cake. Jax is problem because his fast normals, similarly to Lao make it hard to presure him and play footsies at times. I neglected to mention that before, however i did mention that it's hard to keep Jax away because of dash speed, and superman punch, as well as various other things; Smoke running will either result in u getting pressured or resetted in the corner... pairing this up with a more annoying than usual string is bad news for Smoke.
he follows up with either a spin or blockstring because it is a guessing game. All of kunglao's main strings get beat by pokes, and for kung lao to counter that he has to spin to blow up the poke, its not random at all, its a guessing game just like a low or an overhead. once they respect your string you can do your blockstring after tele3
That's what i was saying you have force him to do a random spin or as you call it make a good read by poking the shit out of him . That guessing game is heavily in Smoke's favor. Of course you are not going to random spin if they never poke out of his pressure and if they are not poking out they are just making the match to easy for kl.
how did you test it? Lets say if sektor blocks your late tele3 cant he d3/d1 uppercut you out of 21? Also this is almost irrelevant because you will get hit long before you can land a late tele3 on block, they will either hit you or you land a combo on them.
Doesn't en-SmokeAway into smokebomb work?
Not even close. That's ~58 frames to do....
Can Smoke en-SmokeAway/Towards out of frametraps and strings with gaps?
No. 6f startup before invincibility. It's absolutely useless unless you want to try to get out of cage f3 pressure but with that meter you might as well just EX shake him :\
They have to be 6f gaps, I believe.
Yeah, but i'm only 1f away from getting meter drained by a JC d3.... trust me it happens a lot. When it works you get out easy, yeah, but when it doesn't work you've basically thrown away the whole round because now you've taken a meter hit while cage is building meter and chipping you away T_T
Why you have to be so defensive it seems you would rather be right then be told something else that may help you . I tested it offline with a friend and after the late 3 hits a standing opponent 21 jails them meaning they can't even go into the crouch animation after the late 3.
It happens ALL THE TIME
Okay, listen first of all you said a few stuff that isnt true in this forum, so I and the other people in this forum have all the reason to be skeptical about this, no offense at all. But I really dont understand why it would jail at all since tele 3 is neutral and doing a late 3 would maybe win you a few frames at max, We asked somberness about this and he didnt say it would jail at all.
