Are Nrs Games The Scrubbiest Games (easiest to learn) in the Fgc?

[Apologia X]

I'm interested to hear everybody's thoughts about this. I've played many fighting games on a casual level and find Nrs games to be the easiest, and yes, the scrubbiest in all of the Fgc. It's one of the reasons why I'm attracted to Nrs games because my execution is probably one of the weakest parts of my game so why not play the least execution heavy game in the fgc.

Now, that's not to say anybody can pick up Nrs games and be a top player, but there's not really a execution barrier as with some other fighting games that come to mind. What separates top players from the rest in Nrs games in my opinion are reactions, spacing/footsies, and reads whereas games such as KOF, Tekken, and GG require more execution to be a top player.

I feel like the lack of execution may be one of the reasons that it will not be respected by others in the fgc and one of the reasons it won't surpass Capcom games as far as popularity in the Fgc.

What do you guys think? Do you agree or do you think Daigo would struggle doing run combos? Much love Tym.

 

[TheGabStandard]

Scrubbiest may be a harsh term but compared to other fighting games the execution level in NRS games is quit easy imo.

It may be a reason that NRS aren't respected by some people from other FGCs but at the same time, how can new people really get into fighters when all the good stuff they want to do is really hard to execute? Idk

 

[StealthyMuffin]

Execution wise, yes.

 

[Chakk dizzle]

Difficulty does not determine if a game is scrubby.

 

[stamatis]

i you think that NRS games are scrubbiest fighting games you probably posted the thread in the wrong site!

 

[Big Pampering]

I never understood why people want harder execution requirements. Good players should be separated from lesser players, because they understand spacing, match ups, the knockdown game, counterpoking, do their homework etc. It shouldn't be about execution, why should a player be better because they mindlessly practiced for hours on a combo or frametrap. Yes, it requires effort but if all it took was execution then there would be no true way to separate a good player from a lesser player, which would result in inconsistent tournament results.

 

[Espio]

Ease of execution or learning doesn't make a game scrubby. A lot of the best games in the world are easy to pick up, hard to master. It's a nice mix that doesn't close off entry to noobies, but also leaves you with plenty of room to grow. Also, very few games can truly rival Street Fighter considering the status and prestige of the series. It does not make those games bad or scrubby on those grounds.

 

[I GOT HANDS]

I saw something on a FGC reddit a couple of months ago after EVO, asking how SonicFox is having such an amazing streak. The number one up voted comment was "because he chooses to play a game with zero competition" with a bunch of people mocking him taking the "easy" option for fighting game afterwards. That to me just seems salty, uninformed, typical l33t gamers assuming their game has all the depth and nothing else can hold a candle to it. (We aren't innocent of this either, I've seen people on here claiming MKX has more strategy depth than SC2 or Dota, like legitimate strategy games - lol). But regardless, if this was the case, why aren't any of these amazing players jumping in to snatch up that EZ prize money? It's not like there is zero SF players in this game, they aren't dominating it... Sonic earned his victories hard and is an amazing talented gamer. I really hope he picks up SFV and wipes the sneer of some of these people's face.

That being said, we definitely have the rep as the scrubbiest community, and honestly the way this community behaves as a whole I can't say it's fully undeserved - haven't seen some of the shit I see supported on here anywhere else in competitive gaming tbqh lol.

 

[PapaRegadetho]

Yes, NRS games are, in my opinion maybe too easy execution wise. These games won't certainly make you ready to play other fighting games. Unless you play a character that requiers high execution (i.e. RC characters like Liu Kang, Cage )

 

[IrishMantis]

Easy to learn, hard to master

Prolly more difficult than SFV execution wise

Since 3 frame link is the smallest gaps which is not a complaint (In SFV)

 

[Derptile]

IDK about scrubby. Most FGC players aren't used to the dial-in combos/strings that MKX has and they automatically assume there's no skill requirement.

And then there's the whole block button situation.

 

[Slymind]

In terms of execution, Smash would be easily the easiest, but there is more to fighting games than doing a command and pressing a button.

In general the games are just different, it's hard to measure, since each game will bring different elements to the table.

So, no, i don't consider MK to be the "scrubiest", nor do i believe there is one, at least among modern fighting games.

 

[GAV]

I'm interested to hear everybody's thoughts about this. I've played many fighting games on a casual level and find Nrs games to be the easiest, and yes, the scrubbiest in all of the Fgc. It's one of the reasons why I'm attracted to Nrs games because my execution is probably one of the weakest parts of my game so why not play the least execution heavy game in the fgc.

Now, that's not to say anybody can pick up Nrs games and be a top player, but there's not really a execution barrier as with some other fighting games that come to mind. What separates top players from the rest in Nrs games in my opinion are reactions, spacing/footsies, and reads whereas games such as KOF, Tekken, and GG require more execution to be a top player.

I feel like the lack of execution may be one of the reasons that it will not be respected by others in the fgc and one of the reasons it won't surpass Capcom games as far as popularity in the Fgc.

What do you guys think? Do you agree or do you think Daigo would struggle doing run combos? Much love Tym.

If you're a casual player, how can you know of elite level execution?

 

[Kingshootahz]

Since 3 frame link is the smallest gaps which is not a complaint

Brood mother BnBs are optimal at 1 frame links in fact, Jax, Liu kang,erron black and I think high tech Jacqui have a few 1 frame links...that I have never pulled off.

 

[-Deadman-]

If for some reason you had a company mix the following :
- Persona 4 Arena's 1 button "mash-a-combo"
- a comeback attack that you can use only after getting your butt kicked (SF4 ultra)
- ^ said comeback attack is performed by hitting both triggers on your gamepad (MKXray)
- if said comeback attack doesn't work, you can hit all your face buttons to give you a damage bonus depending on your life total (xfactor)
- spending real life currency to gain passive stat bonuses (Tekken Revolution)

Then we would have a scrubby game on our hands

 

[virtiqaL]

Ease of execution is most likely at the bottom of the list of criticisms that players from other communities have for MKX and NRS games. There's plenty of other reasons for them to consider a game such as MKX 'scrubby'.

 

[IrishMantis]

Brood mother BnBs are optimal at 1 frame links in fact, Jax, Liu kang,erron black and I think high tech Jacqui have a few 1 frame links...that I have never pulled off.

I am referring to SFV that has 3 frame links smallest

 

[Wam-Zlay]

1. Street Fighter - tons of clones everyone has the same moves
2. Tekken incest game with tons of clones
3. Mortal Kombat - Every fighter is an individual with deep background story and individual skills (except cassie she could be a street fighter character)

 

[GAV]

 

[QXD]

I was at a casuals a friend a couple of weeks ago, and we were playing a lot of first to 2's with about 5 of us just watching. The term "That broke!" was thrown around a lot and it eventually led to a discussion at the character select screen about top 5-10. As the discussion dragged on we came to the conclusion that the top tiers were braindead, and most of the cast had some sort of really dirty thing that make them broke. With so much dirt, and fundamental mechanics of fighting games such as anti airs and spacing being less important in this game, I can see how a lot of people would think this game is scruby. I kind of think it is, but playing ANY game at a high level is by no means easy.

 

[Braindead]

What does scrubby mean?

If you wanna talk about ease of execution go try Rising Thunder lol.

 

[PapaRegadetho]

1. Street Fighter - tons of clones everyone has the same moves
2. Tekken incest game with tons of clones
3. Mortal Kombat - Every fighter is an individual with deep background story and individual skills (except cassie she could be a street fighter character)

You're joking right? Aren't palette swapped ninjas clones as well? How many characters have teleport punches in their movesets?

 

[GAV]

I was at a casuals a friend a couple of weeks ago, and we were playing a lot of first to 2's with about 5 of us just watching. The term "That broke!" was thrown around a lot and it eventually led to a discussion at the character select screen about top 5-10. As the discussion dragged on we came to the conclusion that the top tiers were braindead, and most of the cast had some sort of really dirty thing that make them broke. With so much dirt, and fundamental mechanics of fighting games such as anti airs and spacing being less important in this game, I can see how a lot of people would think this game is scruby. I kind of think it is, but playing ANY game at a high level is by no means easy.

 

[Diego de Souza Costa]

"scrubby" is a bad word to describe something..... i admit, i was not an "MK guy", i grew playing KoF (95/97), Street Fighter, and later Tekken, and those games have harder "execution" than any MK game, but, that doesn't make them good or bad in comparison, take Rising Thunder as an example..... is Rising Thunder a lesser game, just because is really easy "execution" wise ?!

 

[ZigZag]

Yes, I can play them.