I wouldnt say something that extreme. I play and follow a lot of fighting games just like most members here. KI, Tekken, SC, SF, MK, etc. Its the variations most of us arent use to.
We will go with what TYM goes, after all if we want to go overseas and compete we will have to be all universal, but from the last discussion we had, we came to the conclusion that the Option 1 is the option to go, but it seems TYM hasn't decided how to take on this yet.
How about you and everyone just freaking wait for the actual game to come out before speculating into topics completely unknown ?????
Comp, you are one of the most rational guys here, but this is a RIDICULOUS assumption. What if Superman had a variation without F+2,3? Would that not completely change his character strategy?
F23 IS Superman though, but, to answer this, variations of course are gonna alter strategies but, for the most part, things like spacing, normals, and movement remain unchanged so it's not like going from Superman to Zod, it'd be like playing Superman without heat zap but with air lasers.
i'm not freaking out, in fact i though this was set in stone before as i said on my first post, on the first page of this thread, in case you missed:
Anyway i merely voiced my opinion, when i got back into it.
That's why the whole discussion is pointless. People are set in ways and aren't willing to understand the situation isn't that simple.
It's alreayd been proven it doesn't over complicate things in other games that work with the exact same system.
Especially when you consider the games of which each precedent is used in.
Exactly. Why is this concept so hard to understand?
Ain't NRS community tho - wich is the issue
It has nothing to do with loyalty, half these variations will be free, one character might have a low tier and top tier variation. The only character I see who has not much difference is reptile
Huge changes in:
Dude imagine grandmaster sub and unbreakable. One has armor and a parry, the other has a fucking clone, if I switch to a new character because I want to learn to deal with a clone, I shouldn't have to switch to fighting armor bro. The variations are huge differences itsv2 entirely diff chars
That's bs, what if first match we already have a 7-3 mu in your favor?? I can't change to a 5-5 or 6-4 because I'm good enough to be conf. In 2 diff characters?? Counterpicking takes skill and is a risk, playing 1 character literally prepares you for every situation whereas more than one is hard to balance. Counterpicis aren't unbeatable
Now this I DO agree with. Nothing was better.
Yeah, and there's still a core that likely may get beaten overall by another variation or character altogether. The variations change things, but there is still a core character that exists that won't always have his flaws solved by one entire variation. Matchups are bound to be super lopsided as it is. Why are we enforcing the idea that we should have to deal with the lopsidedness when we really don't have to? The biggest thing variation lock does is it keeps the same old issue of mid and low tiers being totally irrelevant outside of niche counterpicks, and the only characters you really should be playing if you want to succeed in tournament is a top tier. Why not try something new to see if it works...?
Just to make it clear, I am advocationg variation freedom, even as a character loyalist. Yeah, I am a loyalist, but that is partially by choice, partially due to the fact I felt that my character didn't have bad enough matchups to warrant learning a new character to deal with them (And Reptile really doesn't). Pig also used a character who had no matchups that went against him more than 4-6, and had very few of those altogether. You really can't use us as an example for why variation lock works, because we fell more in line with using characters that didn't have a reason to switch.