Hello guys, I'm new

Hi, I'm a casual player that enjoyed playing fightning game time ago like sf2turbo, mk2, umk3 and recently mk9 and injustice, but never went in depth, so I can easily say I'm new with the fightning games.
After seeing kumite in tennessee (that cossner's top16 reptile , that top8 flash, lol) and with the upcoming mkx, I really want to learn how to play properly, but even if it's hard, I want at least understand why people say a character is better than another one, or simply what players are talking about

Atm I have the notions related to frames, playstyle, but don't completely understand when plp talk about vortex or 50/50.

I tried to figure out what vortex means, I found that someone means mixups, others the specific situation after a knockdown and you can go with mixup. I'm confused.

For 50/50, I assume that after a move that leaves your opponents neutral (you're attacking), you can go low, high leaving the opponent assuming to block something wrong.

I'm usually charmed by underdog or understimated characters

Welcome! None of us actually know what we're talking about. We just argue about shit like tier lists and what not.

lol just kidding. Welcome to TYM! There are a lot of people here who know a lot more than I do so I will leave it to them to help you out

mamasau said:

Hi, I'm a casual player that enjoyed playing fightning game time ago like sf2turbo, mk2, umk3 and recently mk9 and injustice, but never went in depth, so I can easily say I'm new with the fightning games.
After seeing kumite in tennessee (that top16 reptile, that top8 flash, lol) and with the upcoming mkx, I really want to learn how to play properly, but even if it's hard, I want at least understand why people say a character is better than another one, or simply what players are talking about

Atm I have the notions related to frames, playstyle, but don't completely understand when plp talk about vortex or 50/50.

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Welcome! If you have any doubts or questions feel free to hit me up. I'm sure I can clear up any questions you might have

mamasau said:

Hi, I'm a casual player that enjoyed playing fightning game time ago like sf2turbo, mk2, umk3 and recently mk9 and injustice, but never went in depth, so I can easily say I'm new with the fightning games.
After seeing kumite in tennessee (that top16 reptile, that top8 flash, lol) and with the upcoming mkx, I really want to learn how to play properly, but even if it's hard, I want at least understand why people say a character is better than another one, or simply what players are talking about

Atm I have the notions related to frames, playstyle, but don't completely understand when plp talk about vortex or 50/50.

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Welcome to tym! I was that top 16 reptile lol you can message me if you want and I can help you out

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But you can call me Eddy Wang

mamasau said:

Hi, I'm a casual player that enjoyed playing fightning game time ago like sf2turbo, mk2, umk3 and recently mk9 and injustice, but never went in depth, so I can easily say I'm new with the fightning games.
After seeing kumite in tennessee (that top16 reptile, that top8 flash, lol) and with the upcoming mkx, I really want to learn how to play properly, but even if it's hard, I want at least understand why people say a character is better than another one, or simply what players are talking about

Atm I have the notions related to frames, playstyle, but don't completely understand when plp talk about vortex or 50/50.

I tried to figure out what vortex means, I found that someone means mixups, others the specific situation after a knockdown and you can go with mixup. I'm confused.

For 50/50, I assume that after a move that leaves your opponents neutral (you're attacking), you can go low, high leaving the opponent assuming to block something wrong.

I'm usually charmed by underdog or understimated characters

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Some people will argue about the meaning of a vortex, check out this video

Just reply here if you have any questions, I'd be happy to clear any up for you.


What area are you from? you might have an offline scene that you want to get familiar with before mkx comes out

Hi, new. Nice to meet you.

Hello mamasau, I'm not new. You're on the right track with how vortexes and 50/50s work, feel free to drop me a message if you have any further queries about them. I have even been dubbed as having a 100/100 by the UK scene due to my success rate with them.

Thank you guys for the replies, I'm really glad to have signed up.
I'm from Italy and pc user, so I think I'm really cut off from everyone
Surely I'm going to pm you if I'm trouble to figuring out things, or don't understand some reply/topic

About the video, I'll try to analyze here:
Batgirl starts with a regular combo-string that finishes with bolas, 111 (batgirl dropping the combo), this sets mmh in a 50/50 position, than batgirl restarts the combo resetting him in the same 50/50 situation like before and so on: the vortex.
The vortex can start in 2 sitations: 50/50 or kd (but in this case you need to deal with wakeups).

So, to have a 50/50 situation you need a combo with good hit advantage and recovery frames, like batgirl 111 or for example, hawk girl's mace smash, then it's up to the character having good mix-ups to pretend high-low-over.

Thank you again, if I'm right here I got it!

Welcome @mamasau !

welcome,
It gets lonely at the bottom so add me if you are on psn Mr_BAMFito
to me a vortex is a combo that end in such a guy that the opponent has to block another mix up(low or overhead) from you.
vortex, rinse and repeat until they die or guess right.

mamasau said:

Thank you guys for the replies, I'm really glad to have signed up.
I'm from Italy and pc user, so I think I'm really cut off from everyone
Surely I'm going to pm you if I'm trouble to figuring out things, or don't understand some reply/topic

About the video, I'll try to analyze here:
Batgirl starts with a regular combo-string that finishes with bolas, 111 (batgirl dropping the combo), this sets mmh in a 50/50 position, than batgirl restarts the combo resetting him in the same 50/50 situation like before and so on: the vortex.
The vortex can start in 2 sitations: 50/50 or kd (but in this case you need to deal with wakeups).

So, to have a 50/50 situation you need a combo with good hit advantage and recovery frames, like batgirl 111 or for example, hawk girl's mace smash, then it's up to the character having good mix-ups to pretend high-low-over.

Thank you again, if I'm right here I got it!

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On knockdown it wouldnt be a 50/50 because thats a 3rd option. In this specific situation, batgirl down one of two things, low or overhead. And you as the punching bag only have 2 choices to do anything, block low or block overhead (aside from clashing) You literally can't do anything else because youre in the animation of being hit from 111 before the overhead or low option become active. If batgirl guessed right every single time she can take out your entire grey bar without using any meter, unless she used 1 in the corner for a high damage combo.

WELCOME!

Welcome man! Enjoy your stay at this beautiful place!

Hello guys, I'm new

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hi new! im guys.

Welcome and enjoy your stay among knowledge, violence, and good people. Just don't feed the trolls...they like fresh blood