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juicepouch

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Umm yeah that could happen lol. Did u disregard the last part of my last post? Check out those 2 games and you will see what I mean. I am not saying this will be the case for all characters but there is a chance that it will be that way for some. Also what classifies as the "real world" for a fighting game?. Stick to actual evidence when arguing :p. You aren't getting what I am saying I believe.
For one, "real world" is a figure of speech referring to the optimistic light you're viewing mkx's balance in vs whatever game we might end up with. To that end, I didn't say it couldn't happen. I said it most likely won't. You don't need an encyclopedic knowledge of the history of FG's to understand that when there are so many variables involved the chances that the variation that you choose to main will have all winnable matchups decreases.

I understand what you're saying, I just don't think it's very likely outside of maybe one or two fluke variants. Hence why I originally questioned why anyone would choose one variation specifically. I think that brings us full circle
 
For one, "real world" is a figure of speech referring to the optimistic light you're viewing mkx's balance in vs whatever game we might end up with. To that end, I didn't say it couldn't happen. I said it most likely won't. You don't need an encyclopedic knowledge of the history of FG's to understand that when there are so many variables involved the chances that the variation that you choose to main will have all winnable matchups decreases.

I understand what you're saying, I just don't think it's very likely outside of maybe one or two fluke variants. Hence why I originally questioned why anyone would choose one variation specifically. I think that brings us full circle
U made one mistake tho lol, I didn't say that the best variation for a character if someone only used one would have all winning matchups...... So once again like I said, u read into my post too much.I said that a character could have one variation that all around works best for them so ppl would choose that. Also yes u do need knowledge of past FGs to talk about a upcoming game that is implementing something similar to the past game. I am bringing up evidence, not just throwing around my opinion.
 

juicepouch

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U made one mistake tho lol, I didn't say that the best variation for a character if someone only used one would have all winning matchups...... So once again like I said, u read into my post too much.I said that a character could have one variation that all around works best for them so ppl would choose that. Also yes u do need knowledge of past FGs to talk about a upcoming game that is implementing something similar to the past game. I am bringing up evidence, not just throwing around my opinion.
I'm not reading into your post at all. You tagged me, I just expounded on my opinion. If anything you're reading into my post too much.
All I said is that it's foolish to be a variation specialist because it could lead you into kenshi/jade zod/lex territory whereas a variant change could offer a better chance. I'm not sure what problem you're having with that
 
I'm not reading into your post at all. You tagged me, I just expounded on my opinion. If anything you're reading into my post too much.
All I said is that it's foolish to be a variation specialist because it could lead you into kenshi/jade zod/lex territory whereas a variant change could offer a better chance. I'm not sure what problem you're having with that
Umm I am for sure not reading into ur post too much because I ain't putting words into ur mouth like u have already done to me. If u going to bring up something that can be debated, expect a response from someone (this time me). I will say it like this: it is not foolish to be a variation specialist based on how good all three variations are for a character and if that one variation works for all matchups all around effectively. Does that make what I was trying to say clear enough?
 

GuamoKun

I Break Hearts, Not Combos
bro no need to catch a feeling, nothing personal but i tire of hearing about the glory of the early players and how theyd accomplish XYZ if they still played or whatever claim ppl will make about them. i think it discredits the ppl who continued to play and support the game and their accomplishments. if ya boi is so great lets see him do great, no point getting heated.
Da FUQ I can catch feelings about isht if I want. Also dont drop names and say it's nothing personal.

And who cares who gets remembered or not or gets props and stuff. I want to just play and win and stuff.

MOOOOOOORTAAAAAAAAAAAL KOMBAAAAAAT.

For everyones sake I hope babalities make a return. I'm so hype to travel and play everyone.
 

juicepouch

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Umm I am for sure not reading into ur post too much because I ain't putting words into ur mouth like u have already done to me. If u going to bring up something that can be debated, expect a response from someone (this time me). I will say it like this: it is not foolish to be a variation specialist based on how good all three variations are for a character and if that one variation works for all matchups all around effectively. Does that make what I was trying to say clear enough?
I didn't put words in your mouth and I have understood your point this whole time lol. I just don't believe one variation will work that well and you obviously believe differently. Bygones be bygones and all that.
 

SaltShaker

In Zoning We Trust
I didn't put words in your mouth and I have understood your point this whole time lol. I just don't believe one variation will work that well and you obviously believe differently. Bygones be bygones and all that.
The games @MITDJT mentioned, have you played them extensively or followed them? From your comments I don't think you have. For example, there's no reason to ever pick Blanka outside of his A groove in CvS2 in any MU. Not just one or two, but quite a few characters were like this, while some other characters had two viable grooves out of three.

Not saying that will be the case, but there's no way to know at this point if half the cast will have one variation farrrr superior to the other two and the other half the cast switching them around depending on MU's. Or if mostly everyone will have decent uses for two or all 3.

Imo I don't believe the "majority of the cast will have at least two viable variations" dialog at all when it comes to tournament play. That's not what history shows us.
 

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Da FUQ I can catch feelings about isht if I want. Also dont drop names and say it's nothing personal.

And who cares who gets remembered or not or gets props and stuff. I want to just play and win and stuff.

MOOOOOOORTAAAAAAAAAAAL KOMBAAAAAAT.

For everyones sake I hope babalities make a return. I'm so hype to travel and play everyone.
i didnt drop names though, so its not personal. you however took it upon yourself to take offense so whatever bro
 
The games @MITDJT mentioned, have you played them extensively or followed them? From your comments I don't think you have. For example, there's no reason to ever pick Blanka outside of his A groove in CvS2 in any MU. Not just one or two, but quite a few characters were like this, while some other characters had two viable grooves out of three.

Not saying that will be the case, but there's no way to know at this point if half the cast will have one variation farrrr superior to the other two and the other half the cast switching them around depending on MU's. Or if mostly everyone will have decent uses for two or all 3.

Imo I don't believe the "majority of the cast will have at least two viable variations" dialog at all when it comes to tournament play. That's not what history shows us.
Well I couldn't follow them since I am too young :p but I have looked them both up multiple times and checked them out a bit. I was using those as examples since they were similar to what MKX is shooting for but they showed that some used only one style and others could use more than one. Also yeah no one knows, I was just saying it wouldn't be foolish to main a variation if that varistion was all around dependable for a character.
 

SaltShaker

In Zoning We Trust
Well I couldn't follow them since I am too young :p but I have looked them both up multiple times and checked them out a bit. I was using those as examples since they were similar to what MKX is shooting for but they showed that some used only one style and others could use more than one. Also yeah no one knows, I was just saying it wouldn't be foolish to main a variation if that varistion was all around dependable for a character.
Haha not me, I was there for all of that popping quarters daily in the arcade lol. I agree 100% though. I think some characters will be better when playing their variations against certain MU's and others will have one variation so far superior to the other two that you'd never pick anything else.

Another example would be in Alpha 3 it's pretty much agreed on (mostly) that the three best characters were Akuma, Dhalsim and Sodom. Now where Akuma was only top tier is his V-ism, Dhalsim was considered top tier in both his V-ism and his A-ism sets.

I think MKX will be like this. Having 3 variations for everyone is really cool, but there will be a good amount of characters that have a variation better to the point that you don't use the other two, and a good amount of characters that use two of the three.
 

juicepouch

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The games @MITDJT mentioned, have you played them extensively or followed them? From your comments I don't think you have. For example, there's no reason to ever pick Blanka outside of his A groove in CvS2 in any MU. Not just one or two, but quite a few characters were like this, while some other characters had two viable grooves out of three.

Not saying that will be the case, but there's no way to know at this point if half the cast will have one variation farrrr superior to the other two and the other half the cast switching them around depending on MU's. Or if mostly everyone will have decent uses for two or all 3.

Imo I don't believe the "majority of the cast will have at least two viable variations" dialog at all when it comes to tournament play. That's not what history shows us.
Alright. I'm standing by my original point but thanks for the perspective
 
Great post, very excited!

I consider myself an average player, I always seem to hit this wall in my progress with every fighter I take up, but im gonna go hard on MKX and try to overcome this this time around! cant wait to play you guys online!
 
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I can't honestly wait either. There's some people that I've seen play mk9 and inspired me to take it seriously (Other than my step dad abusing tele with sheeva and me not knowing how to get past it)
But I mainly can't wait because of the chances of new fierce competition ! That's what keeps me driving. I like to know that there's someone out there better than me or someone that is aiming for #1 spot like me. I just can't wait for new competition
 
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Shark Tank

I don't actually play these games
Actually he is a extremely smart player. And I know most of you hate it only for that fact that he plays very defensive/zoning style... Most casuals and scrubs hate it.
I don't think you two are talking about the same thing.
 

A F0xy Grampa

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U made one mistake tho lol, I didn't say that the best variation for a character if someone only used one would have all winning matchups...... So once again like I said, u read into my post too much.I said that a character could have one variation that all around works best for them so ppl would choose that. Also yes u do need knowledge of past FGs to talk about a upcoming game that is implementing something similar to the past game. I am bringing up evidence, not just throwing around my opinion.

I agree that this could be a possibility, however, the way i see variants atm is that they should be picked to counter the other characters core gameplan, rather than a particular variation.

So maybe we'll end up seeing specific variations used against specific characters as a lock.
Like for example, tempest lao against good rushdown characters, buzzsaw against good zoners.
 

Crimzon-ET

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Greeting TYM users :)

I have been a long time observer of the FGC and NRS community. I have had an account here on TYM for awhile but I never posted here before until I saw this thread made by a legendary MK player making some very perceptive points on Mortal Kombat X. A game that I feel has the potential to be the biggest thing to happen in fighting games sales wise and FGC exposer wise.

I am not new to playing FG's or to knowing about the FGC in general. However I haven't gotten into playing any FG competitively until recently with GGXrd here in Oklahoma. Mortal Kombat X is one of the main games that I am going to be learning on a competitive level and going to tournaments for as well as training for EVO 2015 in.

I just wanted to say to everyone here that I look forward to playing and learning this game with all of you. I look forward to making new friends in the process and to seeing were this game goes in the future.