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Youphemism

Youphemism

Gunslinger since pre patch (sh/out to The Farmer)
Axel_Redd said:
well how am i supposed to be playing the matchup then? i try to pressure her but, her 50/50's are faster than mine.
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They're almost exactly the same...and you don't always have to go for the 50/50. Why are you focussing solely on pressure anyway? Hang back and let her hang herself.
 
Axel_Redd

Axel_Redd

Vampire Jesus....he wants YOUR blood now!!
Youphemism said:
They're almost exactly the same...and you don't always have to go for the 50/50. Why are you focussing solely on pressure anyway? Hang back and let her hang herself.
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how exactly is that letting her hang her self? and i need to know how to properly pressure these characters.
 
Youphemism

Youphemism

Gunslinger since pre patch (sh/out to The Farmer)
Axel_Redd said:
how exactly is that letting her hang her self? and i need to know how to properly pressure these characters.
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If you walk back and make her come to you then she has to do something wrong, thus the hanging herself. You don't need to pressure Catwoman. All you need to do is get a combo then let her come to you (she has to come to you since you now have the life lead) and wait for her to make a mistake and punish her for it. You don't need to go in unless you're losing, and even then you shouldn't be getting 50/50'd if you space yourself right and play footsies properly.
 
Axel_Redd

Axel_Redd

Vampire Jesus....he wants YOUR blood now!!
Youphemism said:
If you walk back and make her come to you then she has to do something wrong, thus the hanging herself. You don't need to pressure Catwoman. All you need to do is get a combo then let her come to you (she has to come to you since you now have the life lead) and wait for her to make a mistake and punish her for it. You don't need to go in unless you're losing, and even then you shouldn't be getting 50/50'd if you space yourself right and play footsies properly.
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thats just it tho, i don't have the deepest understanding of how WW footsies are supposed to work. Only that her b1 string has deceptive range and is plus on block, as well as her b2 overhead having massive range and to use them to check people attempting to move forward.
 
Phosferrax

Phosferrax

Original Liu Kang cop.
Axel_Redd said:
catwoman...how do i handle this character? :/
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WoWo beats her in footsies. Catwoman can't jump in, can't dash in. WoWo's walk speed is much better than CW's as well, where as WoWo can jump in and space out CW much more effectively then CW. If you block a b3 from CW then she has to guess a 50/50, if she dashes into b1 range and does block then you can do b11 into a 50/50.

If you're getting hit by her overhead outside of a knockdown 50/50 then you're doing it wrong, as why would you ever just sit there and duck against her when the range of her overhead is much further than her stumpy low.

She needs quite often needs meter to combo, so WoWo can nearly always beat her on clash as well.

 
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Axel_Redd

Axel_Redd

Vampire Jesus....he wants YOUR blood now!!
Phosferrax said:
WoWo beats her in footsies. Catwoman can't jump in, can't dash in. WoWo's walk speed is much better than CW's as well, where as WoWo can jump in and space out CW much more effectively then CW. If you block a b3 from CW then she has to guess a 50/50, if she dashes into b1 range and doesn't block then you can do b1 into a 50/50.

If you're getting hit by her overhead outside of a knockdown 50/50 then you're doing it wrong, as why would you ever just sit there and duck against her when the range of her overhead is much further than her stumpy low.

She needs quite often needs meter to combo, so WoWo can nearly always beat her on clash as well.

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now this is the kind of info im lookin for
 
Youphemism

Youphemism

Gunslinger since pre patch (sh/out to The Farmer)
Phosferrax said:
WoWo beats her in footsies. Catwoman can't jump in, can't dash in. WoWo's walk speed is much better than CW's as well, where as WoWo can jump in and space out CW much more effectively then CW. If you block a b3 from CW then she has to guess a 50/50, if she dashes into b1 range and doesn't block then you can do b1 into a 50/50.

If you're getting hit by her overhead outside of a knockdown 50/50 then you're doing it wrong, as why would you ever just sit there and duck against her when the range of her overhead is much further than her stumpy low.

She needs quite often needs meter to combo, so WoWo can nearly always beat her on clash as well.

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Uh I wouldn't say that vid is the greatest evidence, it's from like 2 months into the games life lol
 
Phosferrax

Phosferrax

Original Liu Kang cop.
Youphemism said:
Uh I wouldn't say that vid is the greatest evidence, it's from like 2 months into the games life lol
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I know, but i can't really think of any other footage of 2 good players playing the MU. But I think the fact that Foxy lost the first game because he was too impatient is decent evidence.
 
Youphemism

Youphemism

Gunslinger since pre patch (sh/out to The Farmer)
Phosferrax said:
I know, but i can't really think of any other footage of 2 good players playing the MU. But I think the fact that Foxy lost the first game because he was too impatient is decent evidence.
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Grawlix and 16bit? He seemed to be playing pretty aggressively most of the time to be honest, or at least it seemed that way to me.
 
Drizzle

Drizzle

Jump and shoot.
Helping Axel Redd would be a complete waste of time when he's already said that he doesn't want to play anyone good and also this:

"done with trying ot be competative in injustice, no matter what theres more BS that i can't possibly counter. I'll play in my own niche"
 
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