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Where do you think Decapre stands on the tier list?

Eddy Wang

Skarlet scientist


I've been playing with her for some time now, and seen lots of decapre vids whenever i can, i think that only now her real game is starting to show up, and i gotta say, the last time i saw and felt something similar it was when i picked Skarlet.

She did had a poor presentation at the EVO tournament, which is forgivable since she was relative new, but on the following weeks if you have been following infiltration or Bikoan (who i consider one of the best decapres right now) is putting lots of ppl through hell with her Scramble's mix-ups, even Tokido.

So curious if you guys have been following this, Specially @THTB who has a relatively good eye for such stuffs, i would like to know how do you guys see Decapre right now and if she can be a threat in the near future, because as it seems, her game keeps developing.

I tested DCM and it seems to be (0+5) frames startup, but for some reason unless the frame data from gouken is wrong i couldn't punish his MP Senkugoshoha, although i managed to punish blanka's cr.HK

Fake scramble with meter is fully invincible even after landing and she can move immediately once she touches the ground, and her damage output is pretty solid.
 

RunwayMafia

Shoot them. Shoot them all.
I main her and I find her to be rather difficult to get things going. She can be punished after most of her post scramble options. I like her "hands" move and her target combos. Meh
 

Eddy Wang

Skarlet scientist
I main her and I find her to be rather difficult to get things going. She can be punished after most of her post scramble options. I like her "hands" move and her target combos. Meh
she requires some conditioning in order to frustrate the opponents to get proper juice out of scramble mixes, some of her options can be really unsafe, but once she gets meter she becomes a wild beast.

st.MP and Cr.MK are good footsie tools that can let you in with LP hands and be far away at -3 which i can still live with, the most important thing you got to learn is to how perform the hands properly linked from her normals.

you can charge immediately from a Back Throw and get a scramble mix, where you can set it up for a meaty dive kick or even whiff it in order to throw or immediately go for a low or overhead.
You can also cross-up with scramble or MB to become fully invincible on the way down even if you break the scramble with LP to bait DPs out, which can also set up U2 charge.

U1 forces ppl back in the corner if you set it up correctly, and you can get wild things going from it, but its dificult, other than Bikoan i haven't seen anyone doing a good job from those, though i read somewhere that you gimmick out an full focus while they're worries getting chipped out by the U1
 

THTB

Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
I think she's upper mid tier, not quite top 10, but she's floating in that upper half of characters. Her neutral game, IMO, might be better than Cammy's due to the fact that she actually has a safe-ish poke option in normals xx dagger, and she has a better focus attack. She also has a mobility tool filled with options and shenanigans out the ass, and it even has invincibility (EX MP break is cheap as fuck since it is invincible until she recovers LOL). Her damage is also up there, and she benefits heavily from double ultra as her ultras are both insanely good.

The main trouble she runs into, really, is defense, just because stinger is butt on wakeup. She luckily has Cammy's backdash, so she's not completely useless there, just not as strong as some of the better characters. Also, against characters who can punish dagger on block can make it pretty hard to play a safer poke game, which sometimes limits her to a lot of gimmicky ways to end block strings, so Zangief eats her alive. She's powerful, for sure, though. Watching Uryo use her was ridiculous.
 

RM Truth

Unintentional Tier Whore Follow me @TruthRM
It's hard to say since it's still early. She seems really strong post knockdown and has one of the best DPs in the game. Probably top 10 conversation right now.
 

Eddy Wang

Skarlet scientist
I think she's upper mid tier, not quite top 10, but she's floating in that upper half of characters. Her neutral game, IMO, might be better than Cammy's due to the fact that she actually has a safe-ish poke option in normals xx dagger, and she has a better focus attack. She also has a mobility tool filled with options and shenanigans out the ass, and it even has invincibility (EX MP break is cheap as fuck since it is invincible until she recovers LOL). Her damage is also up there, and she benefits heavily from double ultra as her ultras are both insanely good.

The main trouble she runs into, really, is defense, just because stinger is butt on wakeup. She luckily has Cammy's backdash, so she's not completely useless there, just not as strong as some of the better characters. Also, against characters who can punish dagger on block can make it pretty hard to play a safer poke game, which sometimes limits her to a lot of gimmicky ways to end block strings, so Zangief eats her alive. She's powerful, for sure, though. Watching Uryo use her was ridiculous.
Great eye as always man, you're my SF asset
 

Doombawkz

Trust me, I'm a doctor
I can never seem to pick between her, Gief, and Hakan.
I'd say maybe top 15, but I'm a filthy casual.
 

NorCalSamurai

Bacon Lettuce Tomato
Top 15-20, IMO. She's got a lot of dirt, but it's all pretty punishable, and with proper matchup experience you can avoid a lot of her shenanigans.
 

THTB

Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
It's hard to say since it's still early. She seems really strong post knockdown and has one of the best DPs in the game. Probably top 10 conversation right now.
Stinger is okay. The other weakness to it is that you have to press the right punch button to beat the right stuff, so it's more guess-based than other invincible attacks.
 

Eddy Wang

Skarlet scientist
Yesterday when i talked to Chris G he said the same thing, everyone right now believes she is mid High tier or Highest of the mid tier, which is indeed in the rooms of top 15-20.

What i found interesting is when ppl get used to her, if she will fall apart or if she will develop, to the point of not becoming obvious when everyone is expecting the obvious. This is when i believe we will know her place in the tier list.
 

THTB

Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
Yesterday when i talked to Chris G he said the same thing, everyone right now believes she is mid High tier or Highest of the mid tier, which is indeed in the rooms of top 15-20.

What i found interesting is when ppl get used to her, if she will fall apart or if she will develop, to the point of not becoming obvious when everyone is expecting the obvious. This is when i believe we will know her place in the tier list.
I think most of her scramble stuff is read-heavy rather than gimmicky. The way Uryo was using scramble, it was basically after he got reads on how the other player was reacting, or in anticipation of something (like using HP break to blow up stray pokes).
 

Eddy Wang

Skarlet scientist
I think most of her scramble stuff is read-heavy rather than gimmicky. The way Uryo was using scramble, it was basically after he got reads on how the other player was reacting, or in anticipation of something (like using HP break to blow up stray pokes).
Yes. Most of ppl i've seen facing Capre stylez are usually teching everytime they see ex Scramble because the most obvious followup is grab, yet as Uryo and Bikoan are using that is not in the slighlest the only options
 

d3v

SRK
General consensus is that she's mid to mid-high.

She has decent match ups against some of the top tiers like E. Ryu , though she struggles against others like Rose.
 

THTB

Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
General consensus is that she's mid to mid-high.

She has decent match ups against some of the top tiers like E. Ryu , though she struggles against others like Rose.
Rose sucks to play vs, as does Poison.
 
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