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RA HELIOS BEATS GGA MAX 10-0 MU PROVEN UNWINNABLE

HoneyBee

Flash God Lord
I completely agree with @GGA Max's view on why a match like this shouldn't be streamed for everyone. People that genuinely think you can determine MU numbers based on an ONLINE FT10... lol get out of here with that shit. Even an offline FT10 wouldn't prove it being a 6-4, 7-3, 8-2 whatever the hell you guys think the MU is. It has to be played out more than that. I'm sure I've mentioned before that I think online games/sets means absolutely nothing to determine MU numbers or who's the better player but as far as the majority of TYM is concerned, they do. And regardless of how many people say, "It's all in good fun, it doesn't mean anything," for this Max vs Helios game, we all know there will be unnecessary blow ups for no reason. When I accepted to play King on Pig's stream for a FT3 I just did it for fun. I didn't think anyone actually thought those games meant anything but King, Limbo, and Outworld were saying how King brought Outworld my head and how I'm free... lol. I don't care about silly shit like that but if some guys are gonna say shit like that off of a FT3 with me vs King online, I can only imagine the trash talking that would happen after the Max vs Helios match.

Don't get me wrong though, I would love to see them play and if TYM could actually just enjoy an exhibition between the two of them without putting anyone on blast for the outcome, I think it should be streamed. I love hype, but I hate when that hype is generated off of BS reasons like MU numbers based on online sets. I think Max should have fully considered the outcome of this before he decided to accept the challenge though. Cause accepting a challenge and then backing out ain't cool. I would accept any offline challenge but if someone came to me and said for me to prove why Flash vs Aquaman is 5-5 instead of 4-6 in an online set I would tell them to fuck off.
 

OG Mannimal

OG "OG Mannimal" Mannimal
I think an online set (or even an offline set really) should just be played for fun. I agree with most who said that this should have happened and it's all fun. If I were Max, I'd do it.

BUT, the same guys who are saying "oh it's just for fun" were the same guys saying Ra Helios will prove the match-up is 4-6 or whatever. Don't be hypocrites. You KNOW for a fact that part of the reason why everyone was so looking forward for this set was because in their minds, this would have implications. Whether vis-a-vis Ra Helios vs. 16 Bit (yes, 16 Bit, who's not playing in this set) or Catwoman vs. Bane. In that regard, I can see Max's point. Hell, Ra Helios himself said "if I win, it's 5-5 and if I lose but win 7 games, it's 6-4." Yes, online FT10's shouldn't settle anything but tell that to people here on TYM. I can see why Max wouldn't think this is worth it. Ultimately, I still would have done it but yeah, anything other than Max massacring him would result in blow-ups.

If Ra was approaching this from an "it's all for fun" attitude it might have been different. As it stands, if he wants to prove the match-up, he should travel. It's as simple as that. If he can't due to money and religious beliefs, I respect that and can't fault him one bit, but that's on him.
Coolwhip agreeing with GGA? Unheard of!
 

coolwhip

Noob
Coolwhip agreeing with GGA? Unheard of!
1- I clearly said I would have done it if I were Max. As in, I would have played the set. So how on earth am I agreeing with him? Jesus this place is getting dumber by the day. Saying you see someone's point =/= you agree with them.

2- I love whenever someone makes a point similar to yours as if you just made an earth shattering revelation. Yeah, I'm a GGA fan. It's not like I try to be fucking subtle about it. But please, do debate my points and tell me where was I wrong. Again, I think Max should have played. I think sets (especially online) should be played for fun, but I think he's right about the blow-ups. Are any of these points not valid? No? Great. Thanks.
 

ForeverKing

Patreon.com/MK_ForeverKing
I completely agree with @GGA Max's view on why a match like this shouldn't be streamed for everyone. People that genuinely think you can determine MU numbers based on an ONLINE FT10... lol get out of here with that shit. Even an offline FT10 wouldn't prove it being a 6-4, 7-3, 8-2 whatever the hell you guys think the MU is. It has to be played out more than that. I'm sure I've mentioned before that I think online games/sets means absolutely nothing to determine MU numbers or who's the better player but as far as the majority of TYM is concerned, they do. And regardless of how many people say, "It's all in good fun, it doesn't mean anything," for this Max vs Helios game, we all know there will be unnecessary blow ups for no reason. When I accepted to play King on Pig's stream for a FT3 I just did it for fun. I didn't think anyone actually thought those games meant anything but King, Limbo, and Outworld were saying how King brought Outworld my head and how I'm free... lol. I don't care about silly shit like that but if some guys are gonna say shit like that off of a FT3 with me vs King online, I can only imagine the trash talking that would happen after the Max vs Helios match.

Don't get me wrong though, I would love to see them play and if TYM could actually just enjoy an exhibition between the two of them without putting anyone on blast for the outcome, I think it should be streamed. I love hype, but I hate when that hype is generated off of BS reasons like MU numbers based on online sets. I think Max should have fully considered the outcome of this before he decided to accept the challenge though. Cause accepting a challenge and then backing out ain't cool. I would accept any offline challenge but if someone came to me and said for me to prove why Flash vs Aquaman is 5-5 instead of 4-6 in an online set I would tell them to fuck off.
You know I was joking when I was talking to emperor outworld right? I was talking in all caps and exclamation points like he does lol. Obviously I think your the best Flash player and not free, I hope you didn't take my shit talk seriously because I shit talk a lot but it is all in fun and games! :p
 

ForeverKing

Patreon.com/MK_ForeverKing
1- I clearly said I would have done it if I were Max. As in, I would have played the set. So how on earth am I agreeing with him? Jesus this place is getting dumber by the day. Saying you see someone's point =/= you agree with them.

2- I love whenever someone makes a point similar to yours as if you just made an earth shattering revelation. Yeah, I'm a GGA fan. It's not like I try to be fucking subtle about it. But please, do debate my points and tell me where was I wrong. Again, I think Max should have played. I think sets (especially online) should be played for fun, but I think he's right about the blow-ups. Are any of these points not valid? No? Great. Thanks.
Coolwhip I always read your posts in Bryan's voice, it's pretty tight I enjoy reading your posts
 

The Great One

"I Always d1 Lif-" SHUT UP
Sorry man, I'd rather have it this way. If I fail to body him there will be a ton of implications. You know how many times he has brought up his set with Biohazard over the last week? It's just not worth it IMO.
Play like fifteen jabillion matches and don't stream it then post one of the best matches from both sides